Misconception about Prime Hiruzen

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his title as professor was due to him knowing about all the jutsus in konoha. but many, like when minato appeared came into it when hiruzen was already old. thus "prime" hiruzen in terms of physical health is actually less versatile and has less intel on his opponents. in that sense, hiruzen really did die in his prime. he lacks death god as "prime" hiruzen.

nevertheless, the hype really doesnt stand up well in this day and age. the manga and databooks are full of hyperbole or simply contradicted facts from part 1. his hype as the "strongest shinobi of all" was from iruka and in front of a bunch of kids. hiruzen even berates iruka for implying it was no longer true because the kids would react badly to that. the god of shinobi thing is again, merely word of mouth. fairly obvious oro said it in a mocking way, as if he never believed it himself anyway. we're talking about konoha as well. its obvious they will embellish their hokages to be better than they really were.

at the end of the day, we were given a chance to see younger hiruzen in action and he ended up getting saved by minato. no one in the other villages ever commented on hiruzen, and kabuto hyping him as strongest of the kages is again word of mouth made by others, and not taking into account onoki's jinton or A's speed. A fought gyuki head on countless times and even cut its horn. he fought minato countless times. hiruzen couldnt do jack to kyuubi and was scared shitless of minato being revived. just saying.
 

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Correction: He was the strongest Kage of the five principle villages, simply because he was Hokage (Something along those lines). He wasn't afraid of Minato, just intimidated by Minato's speed being his old age. Also, dealing with the previous Hokage were troublesome and battling them would result in death. Reason he was able to take on Hashirama and Tobimaru is because they were his teachers. I agree to disagree. We know nothing off his Prime, but from what has been said. This can be said about every character.

his title as professor was due to him knowing about all the jutsus in konoha. but many, like when minato appeared came into it when hiruzen was already old. thus "prime" hiruzen in terms of physical health is actually less versatile and has less intel on his opponents. in that sense, hiruzen really did die in his prime. he lacks death god as "prime" hiruzen.

nevertheless, the hype really doesnt stand up well in this day and age. the manga and databooks are full of hyperbole or simply contradicted facts from part 1. his hype as the "strongest shinobi of all" was from iruka and in front of a bunch of kids. hiruzen even berates iruka for implying it was no longer true because the kids would react badly to that. the god of shinobi thing is again, merely word of mouth. fairly obvious oro said it in a mocking way, as if he never believed it himself anyway. we're talking about konoha as well. its obvious they will embellish their hokages to be better than they really were.

at the end of the day, we were given a chance to see younger hiruzen in action and he ended up getting saved by minato. no one in the other villages ever commented on hiruzen, and kabuto hyping him as strongest of the kages is again word of mouth made by others, and not taking into account onoki's jinton or A's speed. A fought gyuki head on countless times and even cut its horn. he fought minato countless times. hiruzen couldnt do jack to kyuubi and was scared shitless of minato being revived. just saying.
Bold. Don't know what you are talking about here. You do not automatically have intel on your opponent. In some cases, you would have to gather information from the battle. The rest I don't understand what you mean "He lacks Death God as 'Prime Hiruzen".
 
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Lol, I agree...
'Prime' Hiruzen is a bit too exaggerated on NB...

Even when we saw Hiruzen in his supposedly better age for battling, he didn't performed to live up to his hype...
And Minato on the other hand, definitely not in his prime showed feats that were much greater than Hiruzen's...
 

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now that i think about it do edo tensei's reanimate in their prime???? because madara was reanimated young when he was at his best... Hiruzen was reanimated old and that probably means he was at his best at an old age or am i just overthinking it:sweat:
 

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in VIZ kabuto said he had the "reputation of being the strongest kage". nothing about why or how.


then why didnt he try to stop tobirama being summoned
Kabuto: "After all, we did take on the Hokage fully knowing his reputation as the strongest leader of the five principle territories."

When Kabuto spoke, he said "Hokage" and not Hurizen Sarutobi, which is implying that he is generalizing about the Hokage reputation as a whole.

Why did you ask me that question? :|
 

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There is somethin called powerscale, it rise in part 2. Hiruzen still has the chance to prove you wrong. You people believe kabuto when he spoke of hashi's reputition but not hiruzen that is double standard.
 

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Lol, I agree...
'Prime' Hiruzen is a bit too exaggerated on NB...

Even when we saw Hiruzen in his supposedly better age for battling, he didn't performed to live up to his hype...
And Minato on the other hand, definitely not in his prime showed feats that were much greater than Hiruzen's...

what are you talking about everything we have seen of him was from his prime kakashi gadion was why he became hokage, and when he died protecting the village it why he is so popular as hokage ...what else has done to say that wasn't his prime
 

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no third raikage fought 8 tails head on without help .
nine tails stronger that all the other beast combined
proof half of the nine tails chakra was more than enough chakra to take on tails 2-7. the other half should be able to take on 1 (which was solo'ed be child naruto) and the 8 tail. Thats what the 3rd hokage was dealing you can not compare the 9 tails to any other tailed beast.
 

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Well said. Hiruzen and his alleged hype have been assigned a literal interpretation, inspite of increasing evidence to the contrary.
It appears that the words of one character carry more weight than the cumulative knowledge to be garnered from well nigh the entirety of the manga for some members.
 
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