Misconception about OP techniques and characters' strength

[Takos]

I just want to make one thing clear - just because a character can defeat another character doesn't automatically mean he is stronger.

I'll use Kakashi's Kamui as a first example - whenever an argument that Kakashi can instantly warp almost anyone is brought into discussion, someone inevitably says "Yeah, so I guess he can also warp Madara. Are you saying now Kakashi>Madara?".
This is a textbook example of the fallacy I'm speaking about.

Another good example is Danzo (and I guess Shisui as well, though he needs much longer time to recharge) with Kotoamatsukami - he CAN defeat ANYONE in a 1v1 battle, but a character's strength is never measured just by a single jutsu, no matter how OP it is. That's why pretty much no one mentions Danzo when coming up with their top 10 lists. Why? If, let's say, Danzo was to face TWO really powerful opponents at once, he's done for. KA can't be used on both of them.

What determines character's strength is also versatility and not just 1v1 situations. A character may be overall considered less powerful than another one, but still be able to take him down.

So, all in all, people should stop mixing ability to defeat someone with being stronger than someone. Fin.

 

[Mellanoma]

Exactly why I feel Minato is not top ten... He has no jutsu that can defeat any one in my top ten list other than Reaper Death.

People love to hate on this board... They discredit 1 character abilities yet boast another

Stronger a person is the more hate they receive on this board.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

I find I funny that others think shisui has to wait 10 years like Danzig and itachi when he doesn't

 

[Touken]

This is a good thread; versatility is key for all shinobi.

Although, Kakashi is one of the most versatile shinobi out there.

 

[Mellanoma]

This is a good thread; versatility is key for all shinobi.

Although, Kakashi is one of the most versatile shinobi out there.

Yep that's why Itachi is my #1

 

[NarutoBmx33]

Getting my popcorn ready...

OT- yea you're right, every shinobi has their special skills

.. but the fanboys man.

 

[Tobi123]

You're correct.

 

[Touken]

Yep that's why Itachi is my #1

He isn't my number one but he is definitely up there in my top 10 list. I find it remarkable how he can adapt to nearly every situation.

 

[SanjiNL]

Totally true + rep.

 

[Ecsko Bar]

 

[Avinash012]

Yep that's why Itachi is my #1

& the same reason puts Minato in top 10 list Loooooool

 

[bond james bond]

Danzo solo's NV .

 

[Klad]

Exactly why I feel Minato is not top ten... He has no jutsu that can defeat any one in my top ten list other than Reaper Death.

People love to hate on this board... They discredit 1 character abilities yet boast another

Stronger a person is the more hate they receive on this board.

No , I have to disagree , Minato is clearly top 10 material .

 

[Asmodai]

tobi can fight only using one jutsu ,,

 

[Draphsin]

Nope, it actually depends on the "OPness" of a jutsu. Lol

 

[orochimaru]

so true ... i hope people will learn a thing or two from this thread .

 

[Takos]

Nope, it actually depends on the "OPness" of a jutsu. Lol

If that was so, then Danzo would be the strongest character in Narutoverse, shortly followed by Kakashi, then a large break and only after that will there be a place for Madara and Hashirama. U_U

Because both Danzo and Kakashi can 1-hit-KO Madara or Hashirama and KA is better than Kamui in that you don't need to even look at the opponent to use it.

Such way of thinking is very simplistic and far from truth.

 

[H a n]

Hm.. You are correct. ^^ Fans just milking their favorites.

 

[Draphsin]

If that was so, then Danzo would be the strongest character in Narutoverse, shortly followed by Kakashi, then a large break and only after that will there be a place for Madara and Hashirama. U_U

Lml sorry but their jutsus arent OP enough.. (actually susanoo is very OP, moreso than shinsuusenju which ill explain).

KA is slow, that is its major flaw, people think that KA can oneshot people as fast as tsukuyomi can, but when was that ever shown or stated? It wasnt.

Kakashi is OP, but his kamui only has a few shots before he runs out of chakra & becomes completely useless. Kamui's weakness for kakashi is its toll on his performance. Either way, with kamui he's top 15 & without it he's not, because it's basically a powerup.

Shinsuusenju is also OP but its because of its size, & hashi is restricted to using only it. Someone can get hashi while he's vulnerable on the head.

Susanoo is very versatile & can immediately pull someone to the top 10 range simply due to its options. The only weakness is shown when susanoo has no legs, however it can grow legs so that's not a problem either.

Because both Danzo and Kakashi can 1-hit-KO Madara or Hashirama and KA is better than Kamui in that you don't need to even look at the opponent to use it.

No they cant. Zetsu's words - " an expert with a rock can beat a novice with a kunai". Just because they have an OP jutsu, doesnt mean that they can compete with the big dogs. They dont have the skill & 1 OP jutsu (in their case) isnt going to cut it.

Such way of thinking is very simplistic and far from truth.

Funny how you disregard obito who solos 99.9% of the NV because of 1 jutsu I guess thinking this way must be simplistic even though its proven fact pretty much that the more OP your jutsu is, the stronger you are..

 

[Mellanoma]

& the same reason puts Minato in top 10 list Loooooool

No , I have to disagree , Minato is clearly top 10 material .

ha ha how can you guys agree with the OP then insist Minato is top ten lol

Versatility is what makes a shinobi epic. the ability to endure in any situation. Minato is not versatile at all. Itachi however is the most versatile shinobi in the series. He beat 2 unbeatable men that could not be beaten by regular means