miscomception:sasori and genjutsu

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That core cant be accessed via ocular means, Its like having a screen over your eyes...Another example is SM kabuto, his real eyes were covered with a lense. Sasori's eyes are not real eyes, therefore chakra cant be transmitted through them via normal means. It will bounce off, just as if he was wearing a lense because his eyes are a lense..

Ok, so he's unaffected by Ocular Genjutusu...that's not to say he couldn't be hit by an auditory Genjutsu like Jiraiya's or Tayuya. The SM Kabuto example makes perfect sense though.
 

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Ok, so he's unaffected by Ocular Genjutusu...that's not to say he couldn't be hit by an auditory Genjutsu like Jiraiya's or Tayuya. The SM Kabuto example makes perfect sense though.

He may have a screen or fake ears as well, but i guess i cant 100% confirm this becuase we havent really seen somebody who was able to block out auditory genjutsu
 

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If you can receive and process information of the outside world you can be fool by genjutsu if it set up properly. Now staying in a genjutsu deepens on the individual ability to overcome it.
 

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Sorry bro but that genjutsu doesnt have the same effect as the one used on kurama, his eye literally into a sharingan. Manda just gains tomoe, its not a sharingan because his pupils are still snake pupils. While kurama on the other hand goes from his "snake" pupils to a . Meaning that there is a difference between the ocular jutsu used on manda, and the one on kurama. And that difference is that its not a genjutsu which traps kurama but rather the sharingan itself
 

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Sorry bro but that genjutsu doesnt have the same effect as the one used on kurama, his eye literally into a sharingan. Manda just gains tomoe, its not a sharingan because his pupils are still snake pupils. While kurama on the other hand goes from his "snake" pupils to a . Meaning that there is a difference between the ocular jutsu used on manda, and the one on kurama. And that difference is that its not a genjutsu which traps kurama but rather the sharingan itself
Lol stop it please. Look at the bottom panel. You can see Manda's eyes changing from sharingan to normal. It was cute at first but now you just reek of desperation.
 

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Sorry bro but that genjutsu doesnt have the same effect as the one used on kurama, his eye literally into a sharingan. Manda just gains tomoe, its not a sharingan because his pupils are still snake pupils. While kurama on the other hand goes from his "snake" pupils to a . Meaning that there is a difference between the ocular jutsu used on manda, and the one on kurama. And that difference is that its not a genjutsu which traps kurama but rather the sharingan itself

Clearly, Sasuke used a sharingan genjutsu on Manda which lead it's eyes turning and Tobi did the same thing. The difference is you need MS to control Kurama which should cover any discrepancies.

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I gave you a manga page countering your bullsh*t and all you did was try to put some spin on it because you can't accept your wrong.
 

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Clearly, Sasuke used a sharingan genjutsu on Manda which lead it's eyes turning and Tobi did the same thing. The difference is you need MS to control Kurama which should cover any discrepancies.

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I gave you a manga page countering your bullsh*t and all you did was try to put some spin on it because you can't accept your wrong.

You just proved yourself wrong. You dont need MS in order to cast any specific genjutsu other than KA and tsukuyomi. We know for sure that obito has neither of these, so what possible genjutsu did he use....? And so going by your logic, you would need MS in order to cast a genjutsu on kurama...but that makes no sense because we clearly see both madara and obito control kurama with regular sharingan....why wouldnt they switch to MS if they needed its genjutsu instead to control him??
 
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You just proved yourself wrong. You dont need MS in order to cast any specific genjutsu other than KA and tsukuyomi. We know for sure that obito has neither of these. So going by your logic you need MS in order to cast genjutsu on kurama...but that makes no sense because we clearly see both madara and obito control kurama with regular sharingan....

And you havnt proved yourself right. Regardless its genjutsu. Because the sharingan is an eye that uses primarily genjutsu.
 

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You just proved yourself wrong. You dont need MS in order to cast any specific genjutsu other than KA and tsukuyomi. We know for sure that obito has neither of these, so what possible genjutsu did he use....? And so going by your logic, you would need MS in order to cast a genjutsu on kurama...but that makes no sense because we clearly see both madara and obito control kurama with regular sharingan....why wouldnt they switch to MS if they needed its genjutsu instead to control him??

You can't control Kurama with regular sharingan, read the page I posted. There reason Kurama's eye did not turn into MS is because it would have revealed the nature of the MS (same as Kakashi's) and revealed who it is.
 

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To those who disagree with each other. How about a neutral decision?:

Sasori getting caught in a genjutsu has the same function priorities as a Shadow Clones:

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He's a puppet which i doubt genjutsu will work on him
 
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