Minato's ''Speed''

[Tobby17]

well i feel that ur contradicting what u said initially

if shun shinno jutsu is not to be considered as speed feat ( shun shin uses chakra ) , then how come raikage's armour ( lightning chakra enhancement ) and narutos bm speed ( attained when kyuubi chakra is utilised) are taken as speed feats

and besides as i have said earlier the fastest a character can move is when he uses shun shin or ftg or gates

What I'm saying is that outside of this special enhancements, these characters can still use the ''body flicker technique''. Using a justu is different from using something else to enhance ur speed. That's what I'm trying to say, dunno if that makes any sense to you:yeah:

 

[Tobby17]

Besides BM Naruto and current Obito, none of the people you mentioned have shown a comparable raw speed to Minato. I would like to see your scans if you want to prove otherwise

And no, he was known for his shunshin as well, reason why Obito called him "yellow flash" by observing his shunshin, not Hiraishin

Whether Naruto and Sasuke were running at full speed is besides the point. The point is that they had taken the distance advantage on him who was still talking with Tobirama not even an instant before, but he directly appeared before them with shunshin

Because we don't see lightning on his body, because we don't see him covered by Kyubi shroud doesn't make his shunshin less effective far from it actually

What about the third Raikage, he has extreme speed too even though he using his Raiton armor to enhance it. Well Minato was already known as the yellow flash and when he used body flicker to rescue Naruto, Obito simply commented on it. Minato has speed, I'm not denying that, but he doesn't hasn't shown the kind of speed that part one Lee showed when he fought Gaara, that kind of speed that doesn't equate to body flicker but just raw leg speed. That's what I'm trying to get at, when the third Raikage attacked Minato, he wouldn't have been able to get out of the way without FTG

 

[PYROVT]

agreed , ay can use body flicker so do u think he will use raiton armour when he needs to be the fastest he can be ????? if his shun shin was better in the sense faster??( keep in mind that im talking bout pure speed here)

the fact the raikage uses his raiton armour as offensive speed manuver to catch his opponents offguard itself proves that that is his fastest move

minato has never shown us asny special ability be it inherited like a chakra nature , but what he has shown us is the same basic technique which even genin level sakura performed

so do u think minato would be praised by tobirama and the rest of naruto verse for his speed( including both ftg and shun shin)

 

[Metronomy]

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Woah Bogard, read the thread first.
I know my line to you is "stick to Minato", but in this case stick to basic comprehension skills.

 

[PYROVT]

What about the third Raikage, he has extreme speed too even though he using his Raiton armor to enhance it. Well Minato was already known as the yellow flash and when he used body flicker to rescue Naruto, Obito simply commented on it. Minato has speed, I'm not denying that, but he doesn't hasn't shown the kind of speed that part one Lee showed when he fought Gaara, that kind of speed that doesn't equate to body flicker but just raw leg speed. That's what I'm trying to get at, when the third Raikage attacked Minato, he wouldn't have been able to get out of the way without FTG

it all comes down to this............. why would u want to use foot speed or insane reflexes to avoid a hit when u can use a better technique called ftg which is hax as shit to get a kill strike ?

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Minato is not as fast as an armored Raikage or Obito with just his base speed. However, Minato most likely has the fastest, non-Bijuu chakra level enhanced Shunshin no jutsu. Why do I think so?

There are three people who have renown for their normal Shunshin no jutsu:

Second Hokage(he showed surprise that another human was faster than him so he must have had the fastest normal shunshin he's ever seen)
Shisui(was called Shisui of the Body Flicker)
Minato(was called the Yellow Flash, hailed by Obito and complimented by Tobirama and Hiruzen)

Minato is most likely the fastest of the three. Why?

Only two people have shown Raikage tracking reflexes on panel.

1. Namikaze Minato
2. Uchiha Madara.

Madara is an Uchiha with a Sharingan so keen that he can tell clones from real humans and he's a sensor so adept that he immediately took note of Hashirama's existence from villages away.

Minato is apparently none of these things(though he might be a sensor since he could do Tobirama's finger to the ground thing) and yet can track Raikage. Also, the credit Obito gave him for merely being able to react to Obito's warping means its an extremely difficult feat. Now, its simple logic that quick reflexes mean quick movements and Minato has the most praised reflexes of any shinobi.

 

[Avinash012]

u r point may be true but u r analogy is terrible..

How in the world can u compare Lee's /Gai's/Kakashi's speed to Minato..?

Sasuke did the same thing to Gaara in part1 and that fodder at Oro's hideout in part 2 that means Sasuke's speed didn't changed at all..?

Sasuke can't follow Lee's as well as Guy's(Guys intro) moves in part 1 does that mean Lee is as fast as Gai..?

What about Minato saving Kushina from Kyuubi's part..?

Don't tell me that Minato already had a Kunai placed on Tree..


Minato's Shunshin may not be faster than BM Naruto,Ay and Obito but he can dodge (Exept Obito) thire attacks with his Shunshin alone but he can't run faster than any of them...

 

[Red Slayer]

First off, this thread is not downplay Minato's speed at all. If you include FTG then Minato is obviously the fastest character in Naruto. However there's been some people who try to imply that Minato without FTG is as fast as characters like third Raikage, or BM Naruto and current Obito. Which is NOT true at all, and people like bringing up these scans as ''proof'' of their argument

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However these scans are not true proof of Minato's actual base speed. What Minato did there can actually done by a lot of people. It's actually a justu ''shunshin no justu''. The same thing can be done by Hanzo, where it seems like they move almost instantly, but that doesn't proof their actual base speed.

Kurenai, Genma, Kakashi, and Gai did something similar to it back in part 1

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So yeah, while Minato might be fast, he doesn't have exceptional base speed like most people try to make him out to, every single character in Naruto can use this justu, they simply gather enough chakra and move in one leap, making it seem like it's instant.

Like I said, I'm not trying to downplay Minato's speed, but his speed is not comparable to characters like BM Naruto, Raikage etc. However with FTG he can keep up with them just fine (maybe apart from current Obito), but without it they far outclass him in raw speed (apart from Edo BM Minato ofcourse)

Minato has BM :/ base Minato speed > base Naruto speed

 

[juankimari]

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Case closed, the ownage level here is over 9000!!!

 

[Oblivionx]

Well everyone thought Minato was the child of prophecy and bla bla bla. I don't see how all these scans prove that he has the same raw speed as third Raikage, BM Naruto, Current Obito, or say 7 gates Gai etc

Oh and KCM Naruto and Sasuke weren't running at full speed either, they were both trying to sync their attack even as they were running. So obv not full speed, and Minato was known for his FTG, so ofcourse he was faster than the rest, nothing is faster than instant. And yeah he's faster than Tobirama

you forgot one thing that narusasu didn't even notice minato passing by that's why they were surprised and minato used raw speed not ftg...! so what do you say about that???

 

[Uchiha Samater]

i remember shii mentioned when Raikage was battling Sasuke at the kage summit, that he used the raiton armour to augment his reflexes as well as his speed to evade the sharingan, and that it was on par with the yellow flashe's reflexes

You argue that yondaime's base speed was not quick, but his Body Flicker was constantly mentioned to be above par to everyone, otherwise why have they not commented on those who have shown incredible speed also with just their Base speed, [not 7/8 gates, not lightning amour, BASE SPEED as you said]

Not only that his reflexes were outrageous, the raikage used his lightning amour to speed towards him however he could manoeuvre his arm to release a kunai in that speed, [not referring to the actual jump he did to the kunai], also generating a rasengan a split second before he jumped against Obito

from what i have seen you argue that he isn't as quick as others, [albeit you do say he is fast which is fair enough], based on base speed, but then you mention their special abilities, but the fact is in the manga, until proven otherwise he is the fastest,

 

[Oblivionx]

minato has fastest shunshin no jutsu and it is not raw speed....! shunshin is a jutsu and BM naruto used this jutsu, same is case of raikage....! they can't run 10 km with same (close to instant) speed either...! that's why naruto ain't using it right now and raikage uses the same thing...! otherwise tell me how can a damn susano catch such a fast shinobi that can't even be seen while moving....! because they don't have reflexes of minato so raikage was unable to use shunshin because he couldn't react and use the jutsu and naruto's shunshin is slower than both tobirama and minato because god tree was able to catch naruto but other two escaped with shunshin not ftg....! and tobirama already praised minato's shunshin...! and yes that means tobirama can dodge raikage's attack as well....!

 

[cptenn94]

raikage doesnt exactly have really high base speed either then.....because shunshin jutsu, is simply a technique where a ninja uses their chakra to move at really high speed. Most of the time it is used to "teleport". As the 4th raikage uses chakra to augment his speed, technically all his movements could be considered shunshin. The probable main difference is that
1. Lightning armor does more than just increase speed. It also increases his reflexes.
2. Generally shunshin, is just used to dodge, or move fast in shorter movements. It is not used for long term fighting movements.

If you count raikage lightning armor as base speed, then you should count shushin as well(albeit in different speed catergories), because BOTH are utilizing chakra to move at extreme speeds. (im pretty sure raikages max speed, is when he uses lightning armor v2, WITH shunshin jutsu.)


All this said, Minatos base speed is overrated. Other characters are capable at moveing at similar speeds as minato(both him and them useing shunshin), however minato is certainly quicker, with his superior reflexes(which is the reason he can react quickly, and use ftg well.)


Ill end this with one last thing.

Shunshin Jutsu, IS NOT a teleportation technique. It is a technique that allows one to use their chakra to enhance their movespeed to the point where it appears they are teleporting. It is NOT teleportation. I would assume, that since it is used for short distances mostly, that it uses quite a bit of chakra to use.

Some people can be faster than other with shunshin jutsu. Minato is probably faster than say kakashi, but is slower than raikage(with shunshin)

Most ninjas without shunshin, dont have any real speed feats.(ie, they are more like normal humans.)

If you want true base speed, then nobody knows who is the fastest ninja with base.(because if shunshin isnt a form of max base speed, then lightning armor isnt as well, because both are speed enhanceing ninjutsu.)

 

[Tobby17]

Fair enough argument guys. I guess I should count his body flicker as a part of his base speed too :yeah:


speed feats from the Raikage and BM Naruto are also related to chakra

 

[you and your stupid ideas]

Well everyone thought Minato was the child of prophecy and bla bla bla. I don't see how all these scans prove that he has the same raw speed as third Raikage, BM Naruto, Current Obito, or say 7 gates Gai etc

omfg.

i was gunna argue but i forgot that majority of the people here lacks comprehension as they're probably year 7-10 kids.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

So wait.If we were to restrict body flicker..wouldn't lee and guy be the fastest? Since everyone else uses body flicker.

 

[Gold Lightning]

So wait.If we were to restrict body flicker..wouldn't lee and guy be the fastest? Since everyone else uses body flicker.

Sasuke was able to mimic Lee's speed in the chunin exam. Does that mean genin Sasuke has faster base speed than Minato?

 

[Naijakid]

Minato>>>Tobirama....deal with it

 

[Onetimepost2]

So your saying that Minato's base speed without the use of special abilities is not fast, unlike Raikage's Ration no Yoroi or Body flicker or Naruto BCM both of which do not rely on a special abilities? Hey, wait a second...

/thread lol

 

[Onetimepost2]

Minato>>>Tobirama....deal with it

false tobirama >>> minato for the rest of life stop it