Minato's SM

[Gold Lightning]

Im kinda drunk right now, and its pretty late in Poland, I will answer tomorrow.

:bye: .....

 

[~Sky~]

lol, he's been debating drunk. Classic. xD

 

[KingHashirama]

You gave us a scan of Minato entering it .. enterance is instant we all know that.. However, the problem is GATHERING THE CHAKRA TO ENTER IT.. Minato is not skilled enough.


And also, Kakashi was comparing Minato to Naruto's SM..

- Minato lost his SM in 30 seconds..please don't compare that to Naruto's 5 mins..

Even Kakashi was about to say "Sensei your sage jutsus are kind of... ( weak)"

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[~Sky~]

Even Kakashi was about to say "Sensei your sage jutsus are kind of... ( weak)"

I would've literally laughed out loud if he said that.

Anyway, I'm glad we got clarification on that this chapter, I figured Minato's SM being weak and tedious would explain him not using it.

 

[Gold Lightning]

You gave us a scan of Minato entering it .. enterance is instant we all know that.. However, the problem is GATHERING THE CHAKRA TO ENTER IT.. Minato is not skilled enough.


And also, Kakashi was comparing Minato to Naruto's SM..

- Minato lost his SM in 30 seconds..please don't compare that to Naruto's 5 mins..

Even Kakashi was about to say "Sensei your sage jutsus are kind of... ( weak)"

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There is proof that sage mode can be released/dispelled by the user. And the scan translation you posted mentions nothing about Minato's time limit in sage mode. Only that it takes him a while, although that didn't seem to be the case when he entered sage mode in chapter 665. But Bogard already explained why he thinks that is, yes it's only speculation but I find it very plausible and everyone who is guessing Minato's limit is just speculating too.

I sincerely doubt that Minato's sage mode doesn't at least last 2 mins if he was to properly show it off. Compared to Naruto's his Sage Mode is inferior but that doesn't make it useless in battle, far from it entirely.

 

[KingHashirama]

I would've literally laughed out loud if he said that.

Anyway, I'm glad we got clarification on that this chapter, I figured Minato's SM being weak and tedious would explain him not using it.

Same here. But it didn't explain why the toads never mentioned Minato.

There is proof that sage mode can be released/dispelled by the user. And the scan translation you posted mentions nothing about Minato's time limit in sage mode. Only that it takes him a while, although that didn't seem to be the case when he entered sage mode in chapter 665. But Bogard already explained why he thinks that is, yes it's only speculation but I find it very plausible and everyone who is guessing Minato's limit is just speculating too.

I sincerely doubt that Minato's sage mode doesn't at least last 2 mins if he was to properly show it off. Compared to Naruto's his Sage Mode is inferior but that doesn't make it useless in battle, far from it entirely.

I really don't want to argue against speculation. Minato will disspell Senjutsu when its helping him ? really.. nice logic there.

And no in the mangapanda one the time limit is mentioned. I'm simply showing the *********** version to get the point across that Kakashi was indeed comparing it to Naruto's SM..

The reason he didn't use it in battle is because its pointless to him.. it doesn't fit his fighting style.. It simply slows him down..


I'm not saying *********** > Mangapanda, because i consider both scans to be correct.. they simply help explain the other. And sometimes a specific information is missing in one than the other.

 

[~Sky~]

Same here. But it didn't explain why the toads never mentioned Minato.

Hopefully the DB will explain that one. XD

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I go away on a trip, come back, then read this mess. Sigh. Are people actually dumb enough to deny the manga fact that Minato's a true sage? People need to review the facts.

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By definition, Minato's sage mode is better than Jiraya's period. The bias in the haters is so blindingly obvious. Also..

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Like Bogard said, Minato threw a kunai. This would have interrupted the SM meditation. There has been no feat in the manga where Sages can store natural energy and then resume meditation, this is just something that was fabricated from imagination.


Before you you people annoyingly call me a wanker and ignore my post like idiots, let me clarify something. Minato's not my fave. He's just a character that I like. I just don't hate on him like the rest of the base.

 

[ajpn920]

Nice read. As always haters gonna hate. It was shown that Minato is a perfect sage yet there are some claiming that he is not. If he is not then he will need Ma and Pa to enter sage mode to gather nature's energy for him and he will look like a frog. I can't understand how these people can't use common sense.

If he said that he is not good at senjutsu yet he was able to enter it without the need of Ma and Pa then it still makes him better at SM than Jiraiya which is an imperfect sage. Saying Minato is imperfect sage yet the evidence was there that he is a perfect sage is pure stupidity.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Same here. But it didn't explain why the toads never mentioned Minato.


I really don't want to argue against speculation. Minato will disspell Senjutsu when its helping him ? really.. nice logic there.

And no in the mangapanda one the time limit is mentioned. I'm simply showing the *********** version to get the point across that Kakashi was indeed comparing it to Naruto's SM..

The reason he didn't use it in battle is because its pointless to him.. it doesn't fit his fighting style.. It simply slows him down..


I'm not saying *********** > Mangapanda, because i consider both scans to be correct.. they simply help explain the other. And sometimes a specific information is missing in one than the other.

Or better yet lets just wait for the Viz. How was the senjutsu helping after he lost his other arm? If he can't weave signs and use ninjutsu then why on earth would he carry on using sage mode?

It's not pointless to him, enhancing speed, perception, reflexes, taijutsu, ninjutsu and genjutsu is not pointless to Minato. You assume it's because it's not his style, or maybe he just didn't find anybody worth the effort. 14 year old Obito arguably soloes 95% of NV yet Minato didn't feel the need to use sage mode then.

At the end of the day it's all speculation, but at least Bogard has made some very good points, whether haters choose to blatantly ignore it and continue to be butt hurt or actually appreciate what he is trying to explain is entirely up to the user.

 

[KingHashirama]

Or better yet lets just wait for the Viz. How was the senjutsu helping after he lost his other arm? If he can't weave signs and use ninjutsu then why on earth would he carry on using sage mode?

It's not pointless to him, enhancing speed, perception, reflexes, taijutsu, ninjutsu and genjutsu is not pointless to Minato. You assume it's because it's not his style, or maybe he just didn't find anybody worth the effort. 14 year old Obito arguably soloes 95% of NV yet Minato didn't feel the need to use sage mode then.

At the end of the day it's all speculation, but at least Bogard has made some very good points, whether haters choose to blatantly ignore it and continue to be butt hurt or actually appreciate what he is trying to explain is entirely up to the user.

- Umm uh he was capable of more endurance.. lol.. how was it not helping him?

- It actually is pointless. The process to get into SM is too slow for his fighting style.. hence why he never used it in battle..

- we "haters" simply go with manga facts.. and try to accept things as how they are.

 

[Gold Lightning]

- Umm uh he was capable of more endurance.. lol.. how was it not helping him?

- It actually is pointless. The process to get into SM is too slow for his fighting style.. hence why he never used it in battle..

- we "haters" simply go with manga facts.. and try to accept things as how they are.

He'd already been hit and lost both arms, it was pointless to keep kneading senjutsu at that point

Not too slow if hr only gathers a little bit of senjutsu, which is what I believe he did. Still no one has given me a scan showing me otherwise where Minato started gathering senjutsu. From what my eyes saw, it was when he threw the kunai.

You guys say you go with manga facts but then say Minato isn't a perfect sage and that his sage mode cannot be used it battle even though Minato just used it in battle. I wonder which manga you get your facts from

 

[xbreedsx]

He'd already been hit and lost both arms, it was pointless to keep kneading senjutsu at that point

Not too slow if hr only gathers a little bit of senjutsu, which is what I believe he did. Still no one has given me a scan showing me otherwise where Minato started gathering senjutsu. From what my eyes saw, it was when he threw the kunai.

You guys say you go with manga facts but then say Minato isn't a perfect sage and that his sage mode cannot be used it battle even though Minato just used it in battle. I wonder which manga you get your facts from

If that wasn't a Juubi Jin, that attack would've landed about anyone in the Naruto Verse. The only hype about that attack was when he was more worried of Kakashi getting hit by his Senpou Rasengan, than when kakashi was almost hit by that black ball.

 

[Gold Lightning]

If that wasn't a Juubi Jin, that attack would've landed about anyone in the Naruto Verse. The only hype about that attack was when he was more worried of Kakashi getting hit by his Senpou Rasengan, than when kakashi was almost hit by that black ball.

Mostly likely yes, it was a fast attack. The rasengan would have killed kakashi if not for the kamui.

 

[shelke]

Minato says he sucks at SM, yet, we still have damage control going on. Lol

 

[Boston Rob]

Minato says he sucks at SM, yet, we still have damage control going on. Lol

Thread was soloed #999999 time

 

[Bogard]

People just want to read what they want to. No one ignore the fact he mentioned he sucks, but let's not ignore as well in what he sucks. He said he sucks at kneeding the natural energy and maintaining it for long, which makes it impractical in battle. Doesn't change the fact however that he still can perfectly balance said natural energy with his physical and spiritual energy giving him the appearance of a true sage just like his son

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

Minato has good chakra control just like he's son but unlike Jiriaya that's why he is a 'Perfect sage', but his Sage Mode still pales in comparison to Naruto's.​

 

[Gold Lightning]

Minato has good chakra control just like he's son but unlike Jiriaya that's why he is a 'Perfect sage', but his Sage Mode still pales in comparison to Naruto's.​

Yes we all know that, that I can agree on.

What I can't agree on is morons saying Jiraya sage mode is more perfect than Minatos or that Minato cannot use it in battle (even though he just did) or that a perfect sage can only use it for 10 seconds.

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

Yes we all know that, that I can agree on.

What I can't agree on is morons saying Jiraya sage mode is more perfect than Minatos or that Minato cannot use it in battle (even though he just did) or that a perfect sage can only use it for 10 seconds.

Minato doesn't frog facial features and he doesn't need Ma and Pa to use SM. That makes his SM superior to Jiraya's. Jiriaya might be better in SM due to experience.......don't see how people don't get this. Minato can obviously use it for more than 10 seconds he still had it on this chap. Unless people think over the space of 2 chaps 10 seconds haven't gone by......​