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Minato's reaction speed is not that great

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Sasuke and Minato shared pretty much equal reaction speeds prior to the latest chapter. Quite a few of the very elite shinobi have very high reaction speeds.

These guys were all at similar levels reaction-wise (prior to this latest chapter): A = Bee = Sasuke = Naruto = Minato = Itachi = Madara = Gai = Obito.

(And to the guys who're going to argue with me, LOOK AT ALL THE PANELS IN THIS THREAD, INCLUDING THIS POST)

IMO, I don't think Tobirama is fast in terms of foot speed or reaction speed. Kakashi is fast but not fast enough to be part of the elite. And I'm not sure about Rock Lee. Shisui would be part of the elite, but we've never seen him in action. IMO.

Fair Warning said:
-Minato escaped Kamui while it was sucking him in. Has anyone else done that?
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Well, Sasuke struck Madara before he could even perform Kamui.

-Minato base mode evaded Ay's fastest attack
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That was a much younger A, who probably didn't have his highest lightning form (which he used against Sasuke) yet. Sasuke has also evaded an attack from A.

- Minato outsmarted and struck Obito in a split second
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Outsmarting someone else does NOT mean that you're faster than they are.

Kirikoe said:
A couldnt even touch minato and inn that time minato managed to throw a kunai just behind A and teleport to another kunai and then teleport back ... and in that time A had barely moved an inch forward and he was moving at full speed towards Minato
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Yet, Minato was no faster than Bee from those same scans.
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Bee intercepting Minato is more of a testament to Bee's speed rather than anything..
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Yet, Sasuke can intercept or "deflect"/doge Bee's attacks?
 
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Your thread is ass because you're the only person that ive ever seen bash minato and prove why his reaction speed is above the best, bee was able to intercept minato you? do you not realize that minato dodged bee's attack without even looking at him in mid air? plus marked him and damn near cut through his tailed beast tentacle at the same time, right after dodging ay's attack at top speed,what what REACTION speed did sasuke show in this chapter?sasuke keeping up with madara was impressive, but minato would have never been hit with that bull shit,especially coming straight at him.
 
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Some points are well thought out but you have to remember Minatos base speed is good but not the best hell I'd argue a lot of ninja have faster base speed, his prowess with FTG was his key, he was very intelligent and like Naruto used catching his opponent off guard as his trump card
 
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' ~ Dantee ~ ' said:
Best thread ever. Someone needs to tell these Minato fans their Speed God has been surpassed and other characters are comparable to him.
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Minato has only been surpassed by Juubidara,Juubito,Naruto and Sasuke! all other elites are too slow when compred to Minato. just accept it. if you were referring to characters i said above then u r right. otherwise Minato is the fastest pure(non-jin) n

CutDeep said:
I know this thread will cause some level of "butthurt", but do keep in mind that every point I make is backed up by a manga fact. I'll also try to keep things concise.
it caused butthurt because ou havent proved anything. Minato retains the fastest-ninja title if juubi jins,naruto,sasuke(sage powers) are excluded.
Let's first address a common misconception. Because FTG is instant, people also incorrectly assume that user also instantaneous. This is not true.

Here's how it actually works:

  • FTG itself instant.
  • The time it takes to activate the jutsu is not instant.
  • The time it takes to hit an opponent is not instant.
There is always a window of opportunity to hit someone using FTG, and this become even easier if you have a doujutsu or can sense your opponent (see Tobirama vs. Madara as an example).

Now onto analyzing Minato's reaction feats with FTG...

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Minato barely escapes Obito who is using Kamui at less than full-speed. There is some significance in this, but this fact is often overlooked.
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"Whoever strikes a split-second earlier will win." This statement highlights the limitations of Minato's reaction speed. On their next encounter, if Obito managed to touch Minato first it would have been game over. Minato cannot react to instantaneous attacks or a full-speed Kamui by his own admission.
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Teenage Bee is so quick that he can intercept Minato before he can land a blow on the Raikage.

If Minato had a faster reaction speed he would have hit the Raikage instead of Bee's tentacle.
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Fans of Minato glorify his reflexes and yet, he is completely taken by surprise by base Naruto's punch.

The common argument here is that Minato did not expect to get punched. But the ironic thing about that argument is that it also means Minato cannot react well to unexpected events. You could say that his reflexes aren't as great as fans claim it to be.
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An interesting comparison, probably created by an Itachi fan. Here we see Teenage Bee intercepting Minato after he used FTG again.

Adult Bee on the other hand is caught of guard by someone else using their own raw speed.

This only further demonstrates what level Minato's reaction speed is at.
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Sage Mode enhanced Minato interrupts Madara but is still unable to hit him. In fact, Minato is so outclassed in terms of reaction speed, that Madara is able to cut of his arm, kick his arm, and then kick his whole body. Minato is unable to warp away or respond to any of this.

The counter argument here is that "Madara is too fast for anyone". Eight Guy proved this statement wrong. Naruto proved this wrong.

Sasuke, in particular, also proved this wrong, as he was so quick that he was able to cut Madara in half with his foot-speed.

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It's not that Madara was too fast. Minato fans simply did not want to accept that Minato was too slow even with the Sage Mode speed buff.
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Hitting Zetsu at point-blank range proves to be a difficult task for the Yellow Flash. The scan here pretty much speaks for itself.
Fans can make up all the excuses they want, but in the face of hard facts it is worthless. If Minato was as fast some people claim I wouldn't be able to create such an analysis thread. I have seen some people resorting to arguments along the lines of "Kishi had to nerf Minato" which is borderline laughable -- am I supposed to believe you can read Kishi's mind?

As a final reminder, I acknowledge that FTG is instant. I also acknowledge that Minato's reaction speed is above fodder-level. But as the evidence has demonstrated, his reaction speed is clearly not above top-tier level.
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Exaar said:
Strange how you decided to miss out Minato Reacting to A's speed.

I Also laughed when you tried to use Naruto punching Minato as a legitimate argument XD
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yeah i have never seen such a desperate poster!

silverASSASSIN79 said:
Nice analysis, I agree.
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its not all as i expected. it doesnt prove anything. it just proves minato is the fastest

CutDeep said:
As I mentioned in my OP, there will be some level of "butthurt". Replies like the first few were not outside my range of expectations.
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ur post was shit! it odesnt prove anything

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Sasuke and Minato shared pretty much equal reaction speeds prior to the latest chapter. Quite a few of the very elite shinobi have very high reaction speeds.

These guys were all at similar levels reaction-wise (prior to this latest chapter): A = Bee = Sasuke = Naruto = Minato = Itachi = Madara = Gai = Obito.

(And to the guys who're going to argue with me, LOOK AT ALL THE PANELS IN THIS THREAD, INCLUDING THIS POST)

IMO, I don't think Tobirama is fast in terms of foot speed or reaction speed. Kakashi is fast but not fast enough to be part of the elite. And I'm not sure about Rock Lee. Shisui would be part of the elite, but we've never seen him in action. IMO.



Well, Sasuke struck Madara before he could even perform Kamui.



That was a much younger A, who probably didn't have his highest lightning form (which he used against Sasuke) yet. Sasuke has also evaded an attack from A.



Outsmarting someone else does NOT mean that you're faster than they are.



Yet, Minato was no faster than Bee from those same scans.
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Yet, Sasuke can intercept or "deflect"/doge Bee's attacks?
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minato is the fastest bee just expected minato could pop out behind him. minato is still the fastest. sasuke has become faster because of sage power but otherwise minato footspeed and teleportation are the fastest.
 
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