Ive always ranked minato as a top 5 tier shinobi but some people think otherwise
Even Jiraya stated that he never saw anyone else like Minato in his lifetime, he trained Nagato and knew about Itachi so for him to say that already means he's up there with them.
To even hit tobi takes exceptional skill (we saw what Konan had prepared for him and he had to use izanagi to get outta that one) and he's taking on Naruto, Kakashi and Guy. The only reason they even hit him is because kakashi has obito's other eye
Sticking with the thread, Minato was very powerful indeed...
I dunno if someone had already told you this, but Minato is only deadly thanks to his FTG. Without it, he would be a worthless pain in the ass no matter how strong his arsenal is. Although he ain't really one of the strongest. He can't even match Kurama's strength, so how can you be so sure that Minato is one of the strongest?
ok tell me how hashi is greater than minato by hype? where is the scan that points hashi is the greatest? his jutsu? we saw powerful jutsu but can do nothing if they cant hit thier opponents. tell me why oro summons minato last like a trump card and why hiruzen tried to stop that coffin if he is wayyyyyy weaker compared to hashirama as they claimed he is. tell me why hashirama was called strongest of HIS TIME? if he is the strongest he should be call ALL TIME.
Comparing minato and Hashirama I think I am wasting my time the story say minato was. Thought some of the sealing tech by Mito hashirama's wife..pls Hashi is 2 great 4 him 2 b compared 2 minato do u knw wat it take for people 2 b using ur cells for projects even after ur death r u kidding me. Hashi is the strongest Kage ever he was said 2 b the persons that controls the tailed beaste as his pets...the reason y hiruzen stopped the coffin waz becuz he neva knew he could not summon anything that is inside the death God tech so pls don't bring that up...and hiruzen didn't take the coffin back it went back by it self..
Before some of you give violent reaction especially the haters, please read the thread thoroughly though it's long enough but with lots of evidence from the databook and manga. Okay, after I saw how easily Tobi evaded Naruto, kakashi, B and Gai’s attack in the previous chapters, it made me think how balance Minato’s jutsus were. Some may say that he got a few so there’s no way he can be considered extremely powerful. Come to think of it, is this really true? Can we determine who the strongest shinobi based on how powerful the jutsu is? Or how devastating it is? Or by how useful it is in battle? Let me break down Minato’s arsenal and why I considered him to be the strongest as to this point.
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Aside from having the speed and intelligence feats, his arsenal was made of Seals, Summoning, Space time tech, and Rasengan. Did i miss something? I think this is all he showed us so far but it doesn’t mean he is limited to these techs (i’m referring to his ninjutsu). Now, how can he be considered powerful having this few arsenal? Let's take a look......
Sealing Techniques: Some considered this tech or counted this as only one tech or two perhaps because he only showed us few. Let me get this straight....How can he be considered a master of seals if he has limited knowledge about it? Did everyone forget that he was taught by Kushina the Uzumaki’s secret sealing techs? How many are they? Could it be possibly be a hundred or even a thousand? Well, who knows...he probably knows a 100 of it or even a 1000 plus his own variation like the 8 trigrams seal. Kindly check this out:
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Uzumaki clan was feared by many because of their sealing techniques. Their sealing techs alone is a major threat. These sealing techs were passed down to someone who is incredibly fast, genius, can use S/T techs, and can summon different varieties of toads with different abilities. How much of a threat can this person be if the Uzumaki sealing techs that was feared by many was added to his arsenal?
Summoning:Minato has the contract with the toads. It is not a contract with gamabunta but with the toads living in Myoubokuzan. The 3rd databook says that upon signing a pact, the contractor is bound to all the Toads in Myoubokuzan. Not only he can summon Bunta but he can summon Ma and Pa and all toads living in that mountain. How can he use this to his advantage? You'll see later... Take note that it was even said that Minato was a better summoner than Jiraiya.
A sacred mountain where toads with strange powers gather
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Can summon all toads in Mount Myoboku
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Confirmed by Kishi that one who has a contract with the toads can summon all species living in Mount Myoboku
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Now, how can he use this to his advantage?
1. He can summon Ma and Pa
a.) Fukasaku: When he steps into the battle field, he unleashes jutsu with a skill that can only be described as worthy of the gods. Also excels in using ninja tools and can use sage jutsu
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b.) Shima: Can analyze the situation instantly during a fight, can use her sensory skills, and can also use sage mode.
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During Jiraiya's fight with Pain, Shima uses her tongue to detect the invisible enemy
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By combining lyrics and melody that only toads can produce, Shima and Fukasaku can cast the most powerful genjutsu known as Gamarinsho. Take note that the jutsu will succeed even if the target is with earshot
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Summoning Ma and Pa gives Minato an advantage in terms of Genjutsu. Not only they can cast the most powerful genjutsu, they can also use sage mode which increases the strength of their ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu abilities.
2. Can summon Gamabunta the boss of the toad: Bunta can use Water Release jutsu like cannon ball and can spew oil from his mouth that can be used in a synchronised collaboration jutsu. Minato can sync bunta's oil and fire to produce a fire based technique which is stronger than an ordinary fire tech
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3. Minato can summon the Gourd Toad Gamahyotan: It has the ability to drag the enemy into his stomach. A sealed dimension from which there is no escape. We know how a gourd works like the one the KinGin bro's used but unlike the Crimson Gourd where it will consume enormous amounts of chakra, Minato can use Gamahyotan's abilities without using too much chakra.
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4. Minato can also use Food cart destroyer by summoning gamabunta:
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Note: These toads are one of those that Minato can summon to help him in a battle
Space time tech: We know how this works and we know that Minato can use Space time Barrier to redirect attacks. Using this as his defence can make MA and PA do Gamarinsho. It also makes him difficult to attack.
Rasengan: This jutsu can do heavy damage to an opponent. Even Kabuto had trouble healing his wounds after being hit in Part 1.
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Minato's Chakra: To those who underrates Minato's chakra, take a look at this!
Naruto in part 1 can use these many shadow clones
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But he can't use his own chakra to summon Bunta. He needed Kurama's chakra to be able to summon Bunta.
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It was said that Minato was able to summon Bunta in his youth. He can also summon bunta using food cart destroyer. In part 1, Jiraiya was able to use food cart destroyer by summoning Gamahiro which is smaller in size compared to Bunta.
Take note that the the amount of chakra required to summon the creature is directly proportionate to its size.
Suppressing Kurama during Naruto's birth, using FTG in many occasions during his fight with TObi, redirecting TBB, summoning bunta, teleporting both TBB and Kurama, using the RDS, 8 trigrams and sealing his remaining chakra in Naruto shows that Minato had a large chakra pool.
Now, combined Minato's speed, intelligence, sealing expertise, summons (gives him varieties of techs from different specie that he summons), FTG, chakra supply, and the ability to create many jutsu's according to his own style, is he the type of shinobi anyone can mess with? His speed alone is hard to deal with, how much more if he summons the toads mentioned above or he uses the Uzumaki's sealing techs.
With this balance of power, he is definitely a BOSS and is hard to deal with!!
Thanks for reading.....:ice:
EDIT: There are those who would like me to add some of Minato's abilities so here it is:
Minato can tell the number of enemies by touching the ground
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Minato deflecting kunais with a shuriken. Here it shows how fast Minato can throw and how accurate he is at throwing shurikens. If all of you have noticed, Kakashi was already moving towards the enemy using chidori before the enemy throw his kunais but Minato was able to deflect it with shuriken using only one hand and at a distance far enough.
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Minato has the ability to deduce a technique with just one look
Minato is without a doubt one of the most powerful ninjas in history.the full extent of his power is as yet to be shown and he has already proven himself to be stronger than many top ninjas in the world.He fought with the likes of the A-B Duo (fourth Raikage and Killerbee) on equal footing and began to overwhelm the A-B Duo to the point that they had to marvel at minato's abilities.Even with the immense speed that the fourth raikage had,he was not able to land a single blow on minato and he was not even the hokage yet.Minato also fought and defeated tobi singlehandedly while it took the combined efforts of killerbee BM,guy,kakashi and naruto BM to succesfully land a single blow on tobi.Minato also had a short battle with kurama where he effortlesssly teleported a tail beast ball away from the konoha stone faces.tobi actually stepped in to get rid of minato for fearing that he would have defeated kurama.There are only a handful of ninjas that are strong enough to defeat kurama and if minato is one of them then he is definitely one of the strongest ninjas in history.
Brilliant thread...to all haters, it's taking about 5 or more chapters for kakashi, gai, bee and naruto to beat tobi while it took just one chapter for minato to analyse tobi's secret and defeat him like a damn boss. If this thread and what i said above (which i believe we've all seen), doesn't prove to u that minato is damn genius and a damn bad muda****a then nothing else will...to all haters, y'all can't just see to believe all times..sometimes y'all gat to believe to see...that one fight between minato vs tobi led me into seeing is believing and afterwards, believing is seeing..point is just cuz we've seen all itachi's potential and we've not seen minato's doesn't mean itachi will own minato.
well said...the only person that will give minato a hard time will be madara or edo madara...fighting against someone with double sharingan, double rinnegan, unlimited chakra, will be trouble for anyone one not just minato. let's give credit to whom it's due cuz minato is a boss of his own
Minato is without a doubt one of the most powerful ninjas in history.the full extent of his power is as yet to be shown and he has already proven himself to be stronger than many top ninjas in the world.He fought with the likes of the A-B Duo (fourth Raikage and Killerbee) on equal footing and began to overwhelm the A-B Duo to the point that they had to marvel at minato's abilities.Even with the immense speed that the fourth raikage had,he was not able to land a single blow on minato and he was not even the hokage yet.Minato also fought and defeated tobi singlehandedly while it took the combined efforts of killerbee BM,guy,kakashi and naruto BM to succesfully land a single blow on tobi.Minato also had a short battle with kurama where he effortlesssly teleported a tail beast ball away from the konoha stone faces.tobi actually stepped in to get rid of minato for fearing that he would have defeated kurama.There are only a handful of ninjas that are strong enough to defeat kurama and if minato is one of them then he is definitely one of the strongest ninjas in history.
Good thread, it sucks when people think Minato only had FTG and Rasengan.That's not the case at all he was uber powerful, the same can be said about Hashirama a lot of people think he had like two jutsus and Wood release alone...Senju clan(the clan with 1000 skills) and yet some people claim he had a couple of justsus!
Back on subject Minato was a super beast and to this day i can't believe he beat Tobi WITHOUT knowledge about his abilities, he had to analyze them and counter them in a matter of seconds in order to win.
Brilliant thread...to all haters, it's taking about 5 or more chapters for kakashi, gai, bee and naruto to beat tobi while it took just one chapter for minato to analyse tobi's secret and defeat him like a damn boss. If this thread and what i said above (which i believe we've all seen), doesn't prove to u that minato is damn genius and a damn bad muda****a then nothing else will...to all haters, y'all can't just see to believe all times..sometimes y'all gat to believe to see...that one fight between minato vs tobi led me into seeing is believing and afterwards, believing is seeing..point is just cuz we've seen all itachi's potential and we've not seen minato's doesn't mean itachi will own minato.
thanks..after seeing how Tobi easily evaded all their attacks without using rinnegan, it made me think how powerful Minato's arsenal is..thanks to kakashi, they finally hit Tobi..
Minato is without a doubt one of the most powerful ninjas in history.the full extent of his power is as yet to be shown and he has already proven himself to be stronger than many top ninjas in the world.He fought with the likes of the A-B Duo (fourth Raikage and Killerbee) on equal footing and began to overwhelm the A-B Duo to the point that they had to marvel at minato's abilities.Even with the immense speed that the fourth raikage had,he was not able to land a single blow on minato and he was not even the hokage yet.Minato also fought and defeated tobi singlehandedly while it took the combined efforts of killerbee BM,guy,kakashi and naruto BM to succesfully land a single blow on tobi.Minato also had a short battle with kurama where he effortlesssly teleported a tail beast ball away from the konoha stone faces.tobi actually stepped in to get rid of minato for fearing that he would have defeated kurama.There are only a handful of ninjas that are strong enough to defeat kurama and if minato is one of them then he is definitely one of the strongest ninjas in history.
true..haven't seen him getting hit yet..if he's too fast for even the raikage then there's no problem for him dealing those who are a lot slower..he will end them with just seals or slit their throats
Good thread, it sucks when people think Minato only had FTG and Rasengan.That's not the case at all he was uber powerful, the same can be said about Hashirama a lot of people think he had like two jutsus and Wood release alone...Senju clan(the clan with 1000 skills) and yet some people claim he had a couple of justsus!
Back on subject Minato was a super beast and to this day i can't believe he beat Tobi WITHOUT knowledge about his abilities, he had to analyze them and counter them in a matter of seconds in order to win.
I dunno if someone had already told you this, but Minato is only deadly thanks to his FTG. Without it, he would be a worthless pain in the ass no matter how strong his arsenal is. Although he ain't really one of the strongest. He can't even match Kurama's strength, so how can you be so sure that Minato is one of the strongest?
I don't think so mate..let's try to think this way..if the Uzumaki clan was feared by many because of their sealing abilities, how much more for someone who possesses an ability afr greater than their ability..I mean, their ability was added to Minato's ability which we know he was born to be a genius and a super fast ninja...his sealing techs alone is very deadly
Ive always ranked minato as a top 5 tier shinobi but some people think otherwise
Even Jiraya stated that he never saw anyone else like Minato in his lifetime, he trained Nagato and knew about Itachi so for him to say that already means he's up there with them.
To even hit tobi takes exceptional skill (we saw what Konan had prepared for him and he had to use izanagi to get outta that one) and he's taking on Naruto, Kakashi and Guy. The only reason they even hit him is because kakashi has obito's other eye
Sticking with the thread, Minato was very powerful indeed...
Thanks..I just can't see how someone beats his arsenal when back then people feared the Uzumaki clan's sealing abilities alone..He have these sealing abilities plus his own..Look what he did to Tobi..Hitting him and then applying seals..it only took him one move..
speed>everything else. once minato touches/tags you with his sign,he can easily teleport behind you and cut your throat open.simple as that and that goes for anyone including madara or hashirama. he could of have easily ended tobi's life when he fought him.
speed>everything else. once minato touches/tags you with his sign,he can easily teleport behind you and cut your throat open.simple as that and that goes for anyone including madara or hashirama. he could of have easily ended tobi's life when he fought him.
I agree with this statement anytime of the day. But of course haters will deny some of it, more especially the toad summoning part & what powers they can aid to enhance Minato's abilities. Theoretically this seems legit since he had contracts with the frogs too, as well as Jiraiya & Naruto. We just didn't witnessed the 4th pushed to his limits as compared to his sensei when he fought Pain, but it doesn't necessarily follows that the frog abilities won't work well with Minato's since his fighting style is different from Jiraiya. One should need to think that even Jiraiya never had the knowledge of Ma & Pa's most powerful Genjutsu, or how it works but it gained him the advantage over Pain during their battle.
OT: Such a decent thread, in-depth, well written, & very informative. Great work & +rep for the effort!
Back on subject Minato was a super beast and to this day i can't believe he beat Tobi WITHOUT knowledge about his abilities, he had to analyze them and counter them in a matter of seconds in order to win.[/QUOTE]
Do u really think if minato was present during dis current Ninja war he would had beaten Tobi easily hey naruto gai kakashi and Bee are fighting a more complex Tobi nd do u really think if Tobi had the Gedo statue in his possesion on his First attack in konoha minato would had beaten him that easy...the Tobi naruto, bee ,Gai and Kakashi is far stronger and wiser than the Tobi of den dat minato fought with
