Minato's apparent "invincibilty"

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or minato could simple mark the ground and change his location to long range forcing sasuke to move up to or in front of the markings. its very possible for minato to teleport inside susanoo thanks to the marking on the ground under sasuke feet. you underestimate minato's intelligence. hes a thousand times smarter than sasuke. so is itachi.

its true that he cannot go blind but it does not change the fact that him using susasoo simply eats up all his chakra. its to risky to just sit inside it all day. he would eventually kill himself by exhausting his own chakra

If Minato does teleport into susanoo, sasuke can cast his genjutsu on Minato.
Please note that Minato has to attack sasuke when he enters susanoo, and all sasuke has to do is look at him, in order to cast genjutsu.

Of course, Minato can easily break out of genjutsu, but that would give Sasuke an opening and he can kill Minato as Minato would be very close.

Minato is an extremely intelligent shinobi, I'm not denying that.
However, Sasuke is also very intelligent, and he has outsmarted the opponent in almost every fight that he has been in.Sasuke might be an emotional bastard, but he is also very intelligent at the same time.

Minato's only option against sasuke is to keep stalling him until Sasuke has exhausted himself, but I don't think Minato fights like that.

Besides, he can just turn susanoo off if Minato starts stalling him.
 
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the raikage said it himslef that minatos relfexes are second to none. His base speed is fast. He saved a falling baby naruto from tobi in the beginning of their fight
 

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the raikage said it himslef that minatos relfexes are second to none. His base speed is fast. He saved a falling baby naruto from tobi in the beginning of their fight

True, his base speed is fast.
 

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If Minato does teleport into susanoo, sasuke can cast his genjutsu on Minato.
Please note that Minato has to attack sasuke when he enters susanoo, and all sasuke has to do is look at him, in order to cast genjutsu.

Of course, Minato can easily break out of genjutsu, but that would give Sasuke an opening and he can kill Minato as Minato would be very close.

Minato is an extremely intelligent shinobi, I'm not denying that.
However, Sasuke is also very intelligent, and he has outsmarted the opponent in almost every fight that he has been in.Sasuke might be an emotional bastard, but he is also very intelligent at the same time.

Minato's only option against sasuke is to keep stalling him until Sasuke has exhausted himself, but I don't think Minato fights like that.

Besides, he can just turn susanoo off if Minato starts stalling him.

you say as soon as minato enter susanoo sasuke will genjutsu him? like seriously?

for 1 he would be surprise that someone actually teleported inside of susanoo. he would not react with a genjutsu in half a second. its impossible even for a naruto character. minato has been known for taking out squads in seconds without anyone noticing. what would be different when he teleports inside susanoo? nothing. he'd cut sasukes head off in 1 second. there is nothing he can do. hes to fast.
 

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you say as soon as minato enter susanoo sasuke will genjutsu him? like seriously?

for 1 he would be surprise that someone actually teleported inside of susanoo. he would not react with a genjutsu in half a second. its impossible even for a naruto character. minato has been known for taking out squads in seconds without anyone noticing. what would be different when he teleports inside susanoo? nothing. he'd cut sasukes head off in 1 second. there is nothing he can do. hes to fast.

Naruto would probably be the only one to match that speed, of course knowing Kishimoto he won't actually learn the Hiraishin.
 

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But it was the Hiraishin that gave him his legendary stat. Which of course still has that big flaw I explained earlier.

please explain the flaw to me because i remember kishi stating that FTG has no flaws. that is why it is so difficult to defeat minato.

and about your first statement on how he got his nickname. he got it from his base speed not ftg. the rumors say before enemies die they see a yellow flash.

it has to be his base speed because when he uses ftg he completely disappears. no trace. no flash. no nothing. hes gone in space/time. so its impossible for him to receive his nickname from that.

dont believe my statement go watch kakashi gaiden against the rock ninja. did you see a yellow flash?
 
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you say as soon as minato enter susanoo sasuke will genjutsu him? like seriously?

for 1 he would be surprise that someone actually teleported inside of susanoo. he would not react with a genjutsu in half a second. its impossible even for a naruto character. minato has been known for taking out squads in seconds without anyone noticing. what would be different when he teleports inside susanoo? nothing. he'd cut sasukes head off in 1 second. there is nothing he can do. hes to fast.
i agree i agree i agree
Naruto would probably be the only one to match that speed, of course knowing Kishimoto he won't actually learn the Hiraishin.

i like how you keep calling it Hiraishin lol ppl are going to get so confused if they dont know what your talking about
 

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According to Minato fanboys, Minato can beat everyone by using FTG.

They say stuff like "Minato puts the marking on Sasuke. Later, he can get there by using FTG and kill him in an instant."

However, is this really true?
Is FTG that invincible?

Let's explore this technique's possible weakness.
When Minato marks an opponent and gets there by using FTG, he'll have to attack him if he wants to kill the opponent. From what we've seen, Minato can only use Rasengan, Kunai and a few sealing techniques.

If the opponent attacks Minato or puts Minato under Genjutsu before Minato attacks, Minato loses.

Of course, I'm not saying that Minato can't break out of genjutsu, my point is that the genjutsu will give the user an opening, and it is possible to kill Minato before he can break out of it. This is because Minato would be very close to the user, as he would have used FTG to teleport to him.

The last time we've seen Minato,he was about to have a draw with a young Killer B. B would have pierced Minato with his sword, and Minato was about to kill B with his kunai.If Minato can kill the opponent and escape in an instant, why didn't he do so back then?


If the opposing shinobi has a powerful armor, like the third Raikage for instance, Minato's attacks will not work on him.The raikage can trade hits with Minato and kill him.

Minato and Rinnegan users:
Lately, fanboys have been arguing that Minato can defeat rinnegan users.
They say that Minato can mark the enemy and destroy him in an instant.
If so, answer these questions:
1.The rinnegan's asura path can create a powerful armor.How can Minato's Rasengan pierce through that?
Even if the rasengan can do that, Preta path will simply absorb it.
2.How can Minato get close to the opponent and mark him if he uses Shinra tensei to repel all of Minato's kunai?
3.How will Minato get past Chibaku tensei when all of his FTG kunai are getting pulled towards it?

MS Users with susanoo:
Minato can't mark the MS user if he has his complete susanoo to protect him.
He can mark susanoo, but he wont be able to destroy it with rasengan.
In case of Sasuke's susanoo, Minato won't be able to get close, as Sasuke guards it with his Enton.
The MS user can put Minato under Genjutsu if Minato tries to attack him, and he can then use the opening to attack Minato with Amaterasu.

Genjutsu is much faster than Minato's kunai, one look is enough to cast it.It can also be cast by using a finger.

Minato fanboys say that Minato's strength is unrivalled, even by so6p, just because Kishi said that in this Manga page:

They don't use any logic,they flame you for no reason whatsoever, and they accuse you of trolling when they don't have anything left to say.

Conclusion :
1.Minato's FTG is useless against shinobi with strong defences.
2.Minato can't win in an instant, he can only get to the opponent in an instant.
3.If the opponent attacks Minato before Minato attacks him, Minato loses.
4.Minato can't defeat rinnegan users or EMS users.

NOTE: I'm not a Minato hater, I'm just stating facts.
I do hate Minato fanboys though.

:hokage::Get your popcorn ready young ones, a flame war is about to begin.


Failed..You concluded that 1.Minato's FTG is useless against shinobi with strong defences.
2.Minato can't win in an instant, he can only get to the opponent in an instant.
3.If the opponent attacks Minato before Minato attacks him, Minato loses.
4.Minato can't defeat rinnegan users or EMS users.

Are you speculating? Can you do math? Are you good at it? if Minato was able to wipe out a battalion in a blink of an eye, how fast was that? Minato never loses a battle. How can you prove that FTG is useless against shinobi with strong defences. Didn't he tried stabbing A with a kunai after using FTG? Didn't Tobi attack Minato first? What was the outcome of their battle?

Another failure made by a stupid Minato hater. Do me a favor. Ask Kishi what he meant by unrivalled strength of Minato and please use common sense. One more thing, don't ever say that we don't use logic because we can pawn you using logic anytime..It's you who does not use some logic...:flaw:
 

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Failed..You concluded that 1.Minato's FTG is useless against shinobi with strong defences.
2.Minato can't win in an instant, he can only get to the opponent in an instant.
3.If the opponent attacks Minato before Minato attacks him, Minato loses.
4.Minato can't defeat rinnegan users or EMS users.

Are you speculating? Can you do math? Are you good at it? if Minato was able to wipe out a battalion in a blink of an eye, how fast was that? Minato never loses a battle. How can you prove that FTG is useless against shinobi with strong defences. Didn't he tried stabbing A with a kunai after using FTG? Didn't Tobi attack Minato first? What was the outcome of their battle?

Another failure made by a stupid Minato hater. Do me a favor. Ask Kishi what he meant by unrivalled strength of Minato and please use common sense. One more thing, don't ever say that we don't use logic because we can pawn you using logic anytime..It's you who does not use some logic...:flaw:

well said. +rep
 

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you say as soon as minato enter susanoo sasuke will genjutsu him? like seriously?

for 1 he would be surprise that someone actually teleported inside of susanoo. he would not react with a genjutsu in half a second. its impossible even for a naruto character. minato has been known for taking out squads in seconds without anyone noticing. what would be different when he teleports inside susanoo? nothing. he'd cut sasukes head off in 1 second. there is nothing he can do. hes to fast.

What you are saying is partly true, but if Minato's attacks are that fast, why didn't he just kill B and get away?

Besides that, how will Minato get Sasuke to step on that marking he puts on the ground, when sasuke can see it clearly with his sharingan?
 
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shisui i got this. its because he didnt want too. there was no intent to kill on his part. only on the raikage's part, but he couldnt..

nd why do you keep saying that lol your like combining the sharingan and the byukgan haha its insane..i get what your trying to say, but the sharingan cant do that. sharingan can only see/copy movements and jutsus as well as see chakra and use strong gengutsu's.
 
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Point all in all Minato is NOT invincible. If he was he wouldn't be dead right now would he?
 

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Failed..You concluded that 1.Minato's FTG is useless against shinobi with strong defences.
2.Minato can't win in an instant, he can only get to the opponent in an instant.
3.If the opponent attacks Minato before Minato attacks him, Minato loses.
4.Minato can't defeat rinnegan users or EMS users.

Are you speculating? Can you do math? Are you good at it? if Minato was able to wipe out a battalion in a blink of an eye, how fast was that? Minato never loses a battle. How can you prove that FTG is useless against shinobi with strong defences. Didn't he tried stabbing A with a kunai after using FTG? Didn't Tobi attack Minato first? What was the outcome of their battle?

Another failure made by a stupid Minato hater. Do me a favor. Ask Kishi what he meant by unrivalled strength of Minato and please use common sense. One more thing, don't ever say that we don't use logic because we can pawn you using logic anytime..It's you who does not use some logic...:flaw:

Apparently, the only thing that you can do is flame people.
If I'm not mistaken, you were the one who was comparing Minato to Zeus just because Kishi said that he has "unrivalled" strength.Do you call that common sense?
Don't compare top tier shinobi to fodder shinobi, it makes you look like a desperate fanboy.How can you prove that FTG works against shinobi with strong defences?
I don't see any logic in your post, just fanboyism.

Forget it, Minato fanboys can never be convinced.
I give up.
 

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What you are saying is partly true, but if Minato's attacks are that fast, why didn't he just kill B and get away?

Besides that, how will Minato get Sasuke to step on that marking he puts on the ground, when sasuke can see it clearly with his sharingan?


Can't he teleport Sasuke to his kunai like what he did to kurama?

I bet you can read..so, how did he manage to send kurama away? I would love to hear your thought on this. Please prove that you can use logic...
 
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