Minato's apparent "invincibilty"

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According to Minato fanboys, Minato can beat everyone by using FTG.

They say stuff like "Minato puts the marking on Sasuke. Later, he can get there by using FTG and kill him in an instant."

However, is this really true?
Is FTG that invincible?

Let's explore this technique's possible weakness.
When Minato marks an opponent and gets there by using FTG, he'll have to attack him if he wants to kill the opponent. From what we've seen, Minato can only use Rasengan, Kunai and a few sealing techniques.

If the opponent attacks Minato or puts Minato under Genjutsu before Minato attacks, Minato loses.

Of course, I'm not saying that Minato can't break out of genjutsu, my point is that the genjutsu will give the user an opening, and it is possible to kill Minato before he can break out of it. This is because Minato would be very close to the user, as he would have used FTG to teleport to him.

The last time we've seen Minato,he was about to have a draw with a young Killer B. B would have pierced Minato with his sword, and Minato was about to kill B with his kunai.If Minato can kill the opponent and escape in an instant, why didn't he do so back then?


If the opposing shinobi has a powerful armor, like the third Raikage for instance, Minato's attacks will not work on him.The raikage can trade hits with Minato and kill him.

Minato and Rinnegan users:
Lately, fanboys have been arguing that Minato can defeat rinnegan users.
They say that Minato can mark the enemy and destroy him in an instant.
If so, answer these questions:
1.The rinnegan's asura path can create a powerful armor.How can Minato's Rasengan pierce through that?
Even if the rasengan can do that, Preta path will simply absorb it.
2.How can Minato get close to the opponent and mark him if he uses Shinra tensei to repel all of Minato's kunai?
3.How will Minato get past Chibaku tensei when all of his FTG kunai are getting pulled towards it?

MS Users with susanoo:
Minato can't mark the MS user if he has his complete susanoo to protect him.
He can mark susanoo, but he wont be able to destroy it with rasengan.
In case of Sasuke's susanoo, Minato won't be able to get close, as Sasuke guards it with his Enton.
The MS user can put Minato under Genjutsu if Minato tries to attack him, and he can then use the opening to attack Minato with Amaterasu.

Genjutsu is much faster than Minato's kunai, one look is enough to cast it.It can also be cast by using a finger.

Minato fanboys say that Minato's strength is unrivalled, even by so6p, just because Kishi said that in this Manga page:

They don't use any logic,they flame you for no reason whatsoever, and they accuse you of trolling when they don't have anything left to say.

Conclusion :
1.Minato's FTG is useless against shinobi with strong defences.
2.Minato can't win in an instant, he can only get to the opponent in an instant.
3.If the opponent attacks Minato before Minato attacks him, Minato loses.
4.Minato can't defeat rinnegan users or EMS users.

NOTE: I'm not a Minato hater, I'm just stating facts.
I do hate Minato fanboys though.

:hokage::Get your popcorn ready young ones, a flame war is about to begin.
 
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he just cut tails of hacibi he can cut bees head also ....with same speed
 

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naw he not we seen wat happen when he ran in to the sharingan now he no longer around an that sharingan was only 3tome if he fought itachi with ms or sasuke with ems he would have been got himself killed by genjutsu. o my fault did not read ur hole thread i thought said minato was unbeatable
 
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According to Minato fanboys, Minato can beat everyone by using FTG.

They say stuff like "Minato puts the marking on Sasuke. Later, he can get there by using FTG and kill him in an instant."

However, is this really true?
Is FTG that invincible?

Let's explore this technique's possible weakness.
When Minato marks an opponent and gets there by using FTG, he'll have to attack him if he wants to kill the opponent. From what we've seen, Minato can only use Rasengan, Kunai and a few sealing techniques.

If the opponent attacks Minato or puts Minato under Genjutsu before Minato attacks, Minato loses.

The last time we've seen Minato,he was about to have a draw with a young Killer B. B would have pierced Minato with his sword, and Minato was about to kill B with his kunai.If Minato can kill the opponent and escape in an instant, why didn't he do so back then?


If the opposing shinobi has a powerful armor, like the third Raikage for instance, Minato's attacks will not work on him.The raikage can trade hits with Minato and kill him.

Minato and Rinnegan users:
Lately, fanboys have been arguing that Minato can defeat rinnegan users.
They say that Minato can mark the enemy and destroy him in an instant.
If so, answer these questions:
1.The rinnegan's asura path can create a powerful armor.How can Minato's Rasengan pierce through that?
Even if the rasengan can do that, Preta path will simply absorb it.
2.How can Minato get close to the opponent and mark him if he uses Shinra tensei to repel all of Minato's kunai?
3.How will Minato get past Chibaku tensei when all of his FTG kunai are getting pulled towards it?

Minato fanboys say that Minato's strength is unrivalled, even by so6p, just because Kishi said that in this Manga page:

They don't use any logic,they flame you for no reason whatsoever, and they accuse you of trolling when they don't have anything left to say.

Conclusion :
1.Minato's FTG is useless against shinobi with strong defences.
2.Minato can't win in an instant, he can only get to the opponent in an instant.
3.If the opponent attacks Minato before Minato attacks him, Minato loses.
4.Minato can't defeat rinnegan users or EMS users.

NOTE: I'm not a Minato hater, I'm just stating facts.
I do hate Minato fanboys though.

:hokage::Get your popcorn ready young ones, a flame war is about to begin.


I'm ready :cool: tough it's bed time soon so I'll catch up tomorrow.
You made some good points but some are flawed. I'm sure flamers will bring em in my place xd
 

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You have valid points, and bogus ones.
 

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Not really going in depth, but fact is no other ninja could've fought off tobi and a rampaging ninetails and created a new jinch in the middle of the night, and all this right before dying for the sake of the village, and Minato has so much more at his disposal than just ftg, not saying he's invincible, but he's either at Itachi's level or better, Kishi gave the guy too much emphasis for him to not be strong
 

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So your saying FTG is useless against

3 rinnegan users and "strong defenses"

thats about 6 shinobi lol

how about all the other billions of shinobi?

lol bottom line is Minato is an incomplete character, yet he still a top tier shinobi

imagine if we knew everything about him... you wouldn't be saying this i bet
 

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People say Minato is strong because we never saw him lose a fight when he was alive, even when he died it wasn't considered a loss because he saved Naruto and gave him the 9 tails which is a plan he came up with for his son to surpass him and fulfil the frog sages prophecy. Also who says he can't break out of genjutsu, it is possible to break out if you have good chakra control which he probably does because he is able to use high level sealing techniques and he is the hokage after all. Why do you think Sasuke never tried to put the Raikage under genjutsu when he was being bitch slapped? Cause high level ninja around the kage level can escape it quite easily.
 

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So your saying FTG is useless against

3 rinnegan users and "strong defenses"

thats about 6 shinobi lol

how about all the other billions of shinobi?

lol bottom line is Minato is an incomplete character, yet he still a top tier shinobi

imagine if we knew everything about him... you wouldn't be saying this i bet

3 rinnegan users, MS users with susanoo and shinobi with strong defences.

Minato is definitely stronger than most kages, and other billions of shinobi.
Minato is a top tier shinobi, I'd put him at 9th place..lol
 

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People say Minato is strong because we never saw him lose a fight when he was alive, even when he died it wasn't considered a loss because he saved Naruto and gave him the 9 tails which is a plan he came up with for his son to surpass him and fulfil the frog sages prophecy. Also who says he can't break out of genjutsu, it is possible to break out if you have good chakra control which he probably does because he is able to use high level sealing techniques and he is the hokage after all. Why do you think Sasuke never tried to put the Raikage under genjutsu when he was being bitch slapped? Cause high level ninja around the kage level can escape it quite easily.

Being a kage has nothing to do with being able to stop/break genjutsu, they cannot escape it easily, remember what happened to danzou and the 3rd mizukage who was a biju?
 

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According to Minato fanboys, Minato can beat everyone by using FTG.

They say stuff like "Minato puts the marking on Sasuke. Later, he can get there by using FTG and kill him in an instant."

However, is this really true?
Is FTG that invincible?

Let's explore this technique's possible weakness.
When Minato marks an opponent and gets there by using FTG, he'll have to attack him if he wants to kill the opponent. From what we've seen, Minato can only use Rasengan, Kunai and a few sealing techniques.

If the opponent attacks Minato or puts Minato under Genjutsu before Minato attacks, Minato loses.

The last time we've seen Minato,he was about to have a draw with a young Killer B. B would have pierced Minato with his sword, and Minato was about to kill B with his kunai.If Minato can kill the opponent and escape in an instant, why didn't he do so back then?


If the opposing shinobi has a powerful armor, like the third Raikage for instance, Minato's attacks will not work on him.The raikage can trade hits with Minato and kill him.

Minato and Rinnegan users:
Lately, fanboys have been arguing that Minato can defeat rinnegan users.
They say that Minato can mark the enemy and destroy him in an instant.
If so, answer these questions:
1.The rinnegan's asura path can create a powerful armor.How can Minato's Rasengan pierce through that?
Even if the rasengan can do that, Preta path will simply absorb it.
2.How can Minato get close to the opponent and mark him if he uses Shinra tensei to repel all of Minato's kunai?
3.How will Minato get past Chibaku tensei when all of his FTG kunai are getting pulled towards it?

Minato fanboys say that Minato's strength is unrivalled, even by so6p, just because Kishi said that in this Manga page:

They don't use any logic,they flame you for no reason whatsoever, and they accuse you of trolling when they don't have anything left to say.

Conclusion :
1.Minato's FTG is useless against shinobi with strong defences.
2.Minato can't win in an instant, he can only get to the opponent in an instant.
3.If the opponent attacks Minato before Minato attacks him, Minato loses.
4.Minato can't defeat rinnegan users or EMS users.

NOTE: I'm not a Minato hater, I'm just stating facts.
I do hate Minato fanboys though.

:hokage::Get your popcorn ready young ones, a flame war is about to begin.

#1 bolded part: There a very little amount of attacks that can actually hit Minato while he is using his FTG, so attacking him won't do anything.

#2 bolded part: There is a 5 second interval. Naruto threw himself in under 5 seconds to reach Nagato, Minato can throw a bunch of Kunai and when they get deflected, throw another bunch.

#3 bolded part: See bolded part 1 ^^^


But yes i agree with you, he cannot beat everyone but can only be beaten by a handful! :)
 

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Im sure Minato can Spam Rasengan As while as his son so we could Cross out everyone that naruto has defeated using it!........... Kabuto,5 paths of pain preta path was turned into a frog, itachi because FTG >>> Susanno Arrows, Sasuke because he couldnt beat itachi, Tobi because he already screamed him 16 years ago need i name anyone else??? only people he cant beat is Nagato and Madara!
 

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yeah no one knows his full mught yet ..its just a few jutsus they have shown...a hokage should know a lot of jutsus ...he knew sealing jutsus which people hardly know about...he must be good ...better than most as of now
 

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#1 bolded part: There a very little amount of attacks that can actually hit Minato while he is using his FTG, so attacking him won't do anything.

#2 bolded part: There is a 5 second interval. Naruto threw himself in under 5 seconds to reach Nagato, Minato can throw a bunch of Kunai and when they get deflected, throw another bunch.

#3 bolded part: See bolded part 1 ^^^


But yes i agree with you, he cannot beat everyone but can only be beaten by a handful! :)

Minato wll still have to deal with the asura path.
 

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3 rinnegan users, MS users with susanoo and shinobi with strong defences.

Minato is definitely stronger than most kages, and other billions of shinobi.
Minato is a top tier shinobi, I'd put him at 9th place..lol

lol and the thing is you put him in the top 10 where most people would and he's an incomplete character

how strong is he really? SM? Other techs? Something using ftg and seals to get him out of genjutsu?

its all possible, because he's.. well he's minato lol
only kishi knows how strong he can be
 

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Minato is strong and obviously he is more powerful than most shinobi now if we use what we have seen Minato has a fighting chance against rinnegan and a EMS user but as for winning well kishi is honestly the only person who gets to decide that.

But he can fight on par with all the ninja we have seen now he beat tobi and everybody has been fighting him for an entire war (not literally) but you get my point he's powerful but we cant decide who wins of someone can make a scenario where minato wins then so could kishi but its not our choice its his
 

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Im sure Minato can Spam Rasengan As while as his son so we could Cross out everyone that naruto has defeated using it!........... Kabuto,5 paths of pain preta path was turned into a frog, itachi because FTG >>> Susanno Arrows, Sasuke because he couldnt beat itachi, Tobi because he already screamed him 16 years ago need i name anyone else??? only people he cant beat is Nagato and Madara!

he can beat nagto n madara with very high difff though ..
 

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shikamaru is also invincible apprently because he is smart lol
 

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Minato is strong and obviously he is more powerful than most shinobi now if we use what we have seen Minato has a fighting chance against rinnegan and a EMS user but as for winning well kishi is honestly the only person who gets to decide that.

But he can fight on par with all the ninja we have seen now he beat tobi and everybody has been fighting him for an entire war (not literally) but you get my point he's powerful but we cant decide who wins of someone can make a scenario where minato wins then so could kishi but its not our choice its his

Saying that he beat Tobi isnt realy much because all Tobi used was space time + war tob is alot more powerful and he hasnt even used rinnegan techs yet.
 
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