Minato vs Trollkage

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Restrictions:Kyuubi modes
Location:Kage Summit
Intel:None
Mindset:IC
Intent:To Kill
Distance:35m

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With 35m dist Minato kills him with Shunshin blitz U_U Make it at least 400m dist.

Other than that Minato comfortably takes this, makes two shadow clones uses his fastest ever shinshin marks troll kage and another clones ends him U_U

I could've thrown in the boss summons but they're not needed Lol
 

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With 35m dist Minato kills him with Shunshin blitz U_U Make it at least 400m dist.

Other than that Minato comfortably takes this, makes two shadow clones uses his fastest ever shinshin marks troll kage and another clones ends him U_U

I could've thrown in the boss summons but they're not needed Lol
So hos does minato kill second mizu again?
 

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2nd Mizukage rapes!
 

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It's an interesting match up. I'd go with Minato high diff though.

GamaBunta's toad oil will work a similar way to what Gaara did, allowing the outline of the Claim to be revealed when used over the battlefield. And Joki Boi isn't too serious of a threat, a few time exploding Minato will probably send him to one of his many pre-destined spots.

It basically becomes Minato dodging the water bullets until the Trollkage runs out of fuel. Or, he's just constantly attacked over and over again.
 

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It's an interesting match up. I'd go with Minato high diff though.

GamaBunta's toad oil will work a similar way to what Gaara did, allowing the outline of the Claim to be revealed when used over the battlefield. And Joki Boi isn't too serious of a threat, a few time exploding Minato will probably send him to one of his many pre-destined spots.

It basically becomes Minato dodging the water bullets until the Trollkage runs out of fuel. Or, he's just constantly attacked over and over again.

Lmao Gamabunta would be in a Genjutsu and would miss, and if he didnt miss he still would be in a genjutsu till the clam is destroyed.

Then you act as though Minato has more stamina and chakra. FTG Uses chakra (fact), he will run out wayy before The mizukage especially after summoning Bunta. Minato would never know where any of the attacks are coming from when the mirage is up, so FTG is useless. Close combat Equals GG!
 

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Lmao Gamabunta would be in a Genjutsu and would miss, and if he didnt miss he still would be in a genjutsu till the clam is destroyed.

Then you act as though Minato has more stamina and chakra. FTG Uses chakra (fact), he will run out wayy before The mizukage especially after summoning Bunta. Minato would never know where any of the attacks are coming from when the mirage is up, so FTG is useless. Close combat Equals GG!

Except the Genjutsu that the Mizukage uses is certainly different from one such as Itachi. As we've seen. If it put the user alone in a Genjutsu LIKE Itachi's, Gaara himself would never have been able to spot the claim even with using his Sand to coat the exterior of the shell.

Gambunta's oil can very well pin point the exact location of the claim, and then allow Gamabunta to take action and attack it with his rather large knife.

As for Stamina/Chakra. Both these characters are an unknown equality when it comes to this. We've seen Minato prove himself to have at the least decent sized reserves in his life. But, you can't directly say the Second Mizukage has larger reserves when all's we've got to go off of is his Edo Tensei state. Which does blur the exact lines of what a character is capable of.

Yes, FTG does require chakra. But it's not as if he needs to rely on this ever time an attack comes to dodge. Boss Summonings aren't nearly as chakra exhausting as they appear to be. It's not like he'll be half dead from just summoning Bunta..

Yes, there will be a lot of confusion early game in the fight for Minato. Don't get me wrong, The Second Mizukage can win. I just see Minato coming out more times then not. I'm sure after attacking the Mizukage (Post Claim Summoning) he'll eventually realize something is up and could decide to rely on extra help. Where Bunta comes in who can spray the battle field with oil and reveal such things as the Claim and Mizukage.
 

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Except the Genjutsu that the Mizukage uses is certainly different from one such as Itachi. As we've seen. If it put the user alone in a Genjutsu LIKE Itachi's, Gaara himself would never have been able to spot the claim even with using his Sand to coat the exterior of the shell.

Gambunta's oil can very well pin point the exact location of the claim, and then allow Gamabunta to take action and attack it with his rather large knife.

As for Stamina/Chakra. Both these characters are an unknown equality when it comes to this. We've seen Minato prove himself to have at the least decent sized reserves in his life. But, you can't directly say the Second Mizukage has larger reserves when all's we've got to go off of is his Edo Tensei state. Which does blur the exact lines of what a character is capable of.

Yes, FTG does require chakra. But it's not as if he needs to rely on this ever time an attack comes to dodge. Boss Summonings aren't nearly as chakra exhausting as they appear to be. It's not like he'll be half dead from just summoning Bunta..

Yes, there will be a lot of confusion early game in the fight for Minato. Don't get me wrong, The Second Mizukage can win. I just see Minato coming out more times then not. I'm sure after attacking the Mizukage (Post Claim Summoning) he'll eventually realize something is up and could decide to rely on extra help. Where Bunta comes in who can spray the battle field with oil and reveal such things as the Claim and Mizukage.

See the thing is, Minato wouldnt even know he is in a genjutsu, Minato wouldnt know the Mizukages Clam Caused the Genjutsu, Minato woudlnt even know Physical Attacks do not work on his clan. Only reason Gaara and Comapny knew was because 1) he told them everything, 2) Onoki knows the Mizukages secrets. Minato Knows nothing and would waist a shit load of time before its too late.

Bunta wouldnt even know where to fire the Oil, Bunta wouldnt even know where to start and even then he would still be in the genjutsu. As seen here:
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Even with sensor sand the Clam was still "invisible" (gaara them still were in a genjutsu) and Gaara's sand Laches on the the clam (Read if you dont know how sensor sand works). The oil does not work the same way and with Joki Boy Out Bunta will be fried after Multiple Explosions. Not to mention what is saving Minato from getting killed mean while? Once the Oil hits whats stopping the Mizukage from removing the oil?

Its wayyy too much things minato would have to do and avoid being killed at the same time. How would Bunta know to use Oil? Minato knows nothing, so to think he would instantly know everything and do it is Foolish.
 

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See the thing is, Minato wouldnt even know he is in a genjutsu, Minato wouldnt know the Mizukages Clam Caused the Genjutsu, Minato woudlnt even know Physical Attacks do not work on his clan. Only reason Gaara and Comapny knew was because 1) he told them everything, 2) Onoki knows the Mizukages secrets. Minato Knows nothing and would waist a shit load of time before its too late.

Bunta wouldnt even know where to fire the Oil, Bunta wouldnt even know where to start and even then he would still be in the genjutsu. As seen here:
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Even with sensor sand the Clam was still "invisible" (gaara them still were in a genjutsu) and Gaara's sand Laches on the the clam (Read if you dont know how sensor sand works). The oil does not work the same way and with Joki Boy Out Bunta will be fried after Multiple Explosions. Not to mention what is saving Minato from getting killed mean while? Once the Oil hits whats stopping the Mizukage from removing the oil?

Its wayyy too much things minato would have to do and avoid being killed at the same time. How would Bunta know to use Oil? Minato knows nothing, so to think he would instantly know everything and do it is Foolish.
Except for the fact that the claim's genjutsu/Mirage seems to be primarily produced through the mist, Which has a vertical range to it. As we clearly see when Oonoki is capable of making out the sand on the claim's shell in a scan you yourself posted. Something GamaBunta/Minato when standing ontop of the former might be over the range of. This is a key point because of the fact Gamabunta can quite easily leap into the air and spray the battlefield with the oil, reveal the shape of the claim and be able to view it out of the claim's mirage range. With this on hand, Bunta can then slam down onto the claim with his massive knife and at the very least injure it. Yes, the claim does move. But probably not quick enough to evade Bunta or to keep Bunta from keeping some sort of tabs on it. And don't be down playing Minato's intelligence here. He's credited to being one the of more intelligent shinobi in the manga with a few feats backing this up. Now, let's get down to the part that will be the challenge for Minato. Knowledge. This is where I'd say the Mizukage would have the best chance at victory. If he unleashes Joki boi near the start of the battle as Minato is still trying to figure this out, he can be killed. But then again Joki Boi itself does weaken the man body of the Mizukage. So, my rational for Minato discovering the weakness or what the hell is going on is by spotting the claim. Yes, spotting the claim and it's like substance. Will be something to keep in mind for him. After a few trial and errors regarding the Mizukage, throwing Kunai and teleporting over to him only for the attacks to be useless he could decide to deploy the former strategy.

Hm, now as I go through this.. With out any knowledge it is significant harder for Minato to pull off a victory.. In this situation I'd say you're right. Though I'd have to disagree with your initial "rapes" remark. It's far from not being a challenge.
 

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Except for the fact that the claim's genjutsu/Mirage seems to be primarily produced through the mist, Which has a vertical range to it. As we clearly see when Oonoki is capable of making out the sand on the claim's shell in a scan you yourself posted. Something GamaBunta/Minato when standing ontop of the former might be over the range of. This is a key point because of the fact Gamabunta can quite easily leap into the air and spray the battlefield with the oil, reveal the shape of the claim and be able to view it out of the claim's mirage range. With this on hand, Bunta can then slam down onto the claim with his massive knife and at the very least injure it. Yes, the claim does move. But probably not quick enough to evade Bunta or to keep Bunta from keeping some sort of tabs on it. And don't be down playing Minato's intelligence here. He's credited to being one the of more intelligent shinobi in the manga with a few feats backing this up. Now, let's get down to the part that will be the challenge for Minato. Knowledge. This is where I'd say the Mizukage would have the best chance at victory. If he unleashes Joki boi near the start of the battle as Minato is still trying to figure this out, he can be killed. But then again Joki Boi itself does weaken the man body of the Mizukage. So, my rational for Minato discovering the weakness or what the hell is going on is by spotting the claim. Yes, spotting the claim and it's like substance. Will be something to keep in mind for him. After a few trial and errors regarding the Mizukage, throwing Kunai and teleporting over to him only for the attacks to be useless he could decide to deploy the former strategy.

Hm, now as I go through this.. With out any knowledge it is significant harder for Minato to pull off a victory.. In this situation I'd say you're right. Though I'd have to disagree with your initial "rapes" remark. It's far from not being a challenge.

lol the rape remarks simply baits users into my traps. Minato can never be beat low to no diff except by the top 5/6.
 

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Mizukage high difficulty.
 

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Minato high diff. I believe he has all the evasive and analytical abilities to dodge and figure out Mizukage's style. He can use his speedy clones to provide an attack from different angles, get rid of explosions and dodge the Mizukage. He has a decent amount of chakra as well. After getting a mark on the Mizukage, he should be able to pull off an unexpected Rasengan or Kunai to Trollkage. Minato has to have an unexpected opening though, otherwise Mizukage will just turn to water.
 

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troll kage low diffs
 

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For Mizukage to win, he has to

Summon the clam
Have the clam cast the illusion.

For Minato to win, he has to

Blitz

I wonder who will attack first? :rolleyes:
 
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