[Discussion] minato vs tobi

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Oh lawl not this again.. Minato annihilated Tobi who was Obito period. DEAL WITH IT. Minato sacrificed himself AFTER Obito RAN AWAY so Minato won that.. again DEAL WITH IT. Current Obito > Minato yes. However if Minato was alive... he would still be above Obito.. why? He would be improving just as the rest of characters have including Obito.
Therefor
Minato 1
Obito 0
Deal with it.
 
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people said that kakashi&gai were like 14 years old when the kyubi atacked.After i saw the anime they were like 23 years old. That make sense in the theory that Tobi fighting Minato was in fact Obito, but if U only read the manga U could easy be fooled that they were youngher.....and if u see kakashi and gai ...hmm Whould U say they are like 40 years old?(Naruto is somewhere 18 years I think).
 

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All that proves is minato isnt as BA as orchimaru.
Oro is a snake he can get out of anything, Minato is a man that doesn't slither around like a
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if Minato just figured something else out he couldve survived and been the strongest ninja well not the strongest but up there.
 

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Oh lawl not this again.. Minato annihilated Tobi who was Obito period. DEAL WITH IT. Minato sacrifised himself AFTER Obito RAN AWAY so Minato won that.. again DEAL WITH IT. Current Obito > Minato yes. However if Minato was alive... he would still be above Obito.. why? He would be improving just as the rest of characters have including Obito.
Therefor
Minato 1
Obito 0
Deal with it.
Ok he won the fight but obito is still alive making more of a name for his self and minato is dead so

Minato 1
Obito 2 (being the reason minato is dead and for still owning people)
 
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Oro is a snake he can get out of anything, Minato is a man that doesn't slither around like a
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if Minato just figured something else out he couldve survived and been the strongest ninja well not the strongest but up there.
well he couldnt that because he wasnt fully prepared thats his fault. orochimaru always has a back
 
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Ok he won the fight but obito is still alive making more of a name for his self and minato is dead so

Minato 1
Obito 2 (being the reason obito is dead and for still owning people)
Thats why I said current Obito > Minato.
However if Minato was alive he would be above Obito. But hes not therefor you really cant compare the two past Minatos sacrifice. So while Minato was alive he won Obito therfore Minato>Obito.

I dont see the point in comparing living with dead.. thats same as comparing Hiruzen and Danzo... Hiruzen>Danzo while both alive..
Meaning Danzo>Hiruzen when he died which is not true...
 
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tobi got hit from rasengan - summoned kyuubi - minato died - tobi survived

how did tobi get beated by minato?
get your facts right retard :flaw:

tobi kidnapped kushina -> tobi summoned kyuubu -> Minato saved kushina and naruto -> Minato beat the s*it out of tobi -> tobi escapes like a p*ssy -> Minato confronts kyuubi and saves village->sacrifices to seal of kyuubi and save everyone.
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i accept that obito now is more powerful with a rinnagan and jinjuriki but still Minato (EDIT: if alive upto now) can put a tough fight.... if not out smart obito ...
 
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Oh lawl not this again.. Minato annihilated Tobi who was Obito period. DEAL WITH IT. Minato sacrificed himself AFTER Obito RAN AWAY so Minato won that.. again DEAL WITH IT. Current Obito > Minato yes. However if Minato was alive... he would still be above Obito.. why? He would be improving just as the rest of characters have including Obito.
Therefor
Minato 1
Obito 0
Deal with it.
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Minato was fairly efficient in dealing with Tobi and the Kyuubi.
He managed to save his son and wife, protect the village by teleporting Kyuubi's Bijuu Bomb away, cut off Tobi's contract with the Kyuubi, forced Tobi to retreat after besting him in speed and severing his arm, subdued the Kyuubi with Gamabunta, and eventually managed to seal away the Nine-Tails.

He's definitely worthy of the title 'Hokage' to have dealt with the situation so effectively.

That said, I think current Tobi would win against Minato. He's much less overconfident now than he was when facing Minato.
Definitely, it is also relevant to say that Tobi got the surprise factor in his favor. Everyone of that time know the Yellow Flash of Konoha, everyone know his abilities, in the other hand Minato didn't knew a single thing about Tobi: fighting style, jutsus, space-time ninjutsu, etc. He got to figure it out in a short period of time, so I definiely thinkd that Minato won the fight, Tobi just flew away like a coward
 
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Some things about that fight still don't make sense to me. If we assume that the man behind the Tobi mask during this fight is indeed Obito, why was he so surprised by Minato using the Flying Thunder God Technique? He was Minato's student, so he should have been well aware of his signature ability.
 

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Some things about that fight still don't make sense to me. If we assume that the man behind the Tobi mask during this fight is indeed Obito, why was he so surprised by Minato using the Flying Thunder God Technique? He was Minato's student, so he should have been well aware of his signature ability.
that's what I think too :)
 

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Even current tobi cannot beat Minato... think about it tobi has the same jutsu as he had before i mean obito-.- ... the only thing he can do with rinnegan is summon Gedo Mazou since the Jinchurikis were actualy Edo Tenseis :) ... have a good night
 

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Some things about that fight still don't make sense to me. If we assume that the man behind the Tobi mask during this fight is indeed Obito, why was he so surprised by Minato using the Flying Thunder God Technique? He was Minato's student, so he should have been well aware of his signature ability.
Maybe, but pre-boulder Obito was kind of a hack genin quality ninja and it wouldn't surprise me if he never remembered or paid attention to how the 4th fights.
 

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Orbito, Kakashi and Gai were 17 during the attack. At you can be at your max height. Kakashi was read to be 29 when he became Naruto's teacher. Naruto was 12
 

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anyone can beat tobi he just obito.

Orbito, Kakashi and Gai were 17 during the attack. At you can be at your max height. Kakashi was read to be 29 when he became Naruto's teacher. Naruto was 12
kakashi is 29 now, he was teacher 3 years ago before time skip for part 2.

Kahashi and gai were 13 during the fox attack. these are facts.
 
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Simply put, Tobi withdrawed.
A prolonged fight would probably have resulted in Minato's loss.
Yes, Tobi lost an arm, but we saw how much that did in other fights, clearly it did'nt slow him down, Tobi only withdrawed because he lost control over the kyuubi, but it still managed to kill both Minato and Kushina.
Funny how Naruto became friends with his parents murderer actually.
 

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Tobi only handled Minato with the element of surprise and by holding an infant hostage. The second those things were out of the way, Minato easily avoided all damage and was embarrassing Tobi. He was fine to keep fighting when he went to deal with Kurama, which if you recall was fully twice as strong as Naruto's Kurama is now. Pretty fkng strong. He didnt want a prolonged fight with the 9 tails that may have destroyed the village.
 
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