Minato Vs Orochimaru

[Nattana]

the funny thing is that you can't counter any of my points you still keep saying oro wins..

Lol I've already countered everything Pate came up with.

 

[blazekev90]

the funny thing is that you can't counter any of my points you still keep saying oro wins..

gg you're not worth countering, especially in an Orochimaru thread. Never have you stated anything creditable, but I've given you enough attention

Orochimaru wins mid-diff.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Lol I've already countered everything Pate came up with.

All I saw was

'' Oro can resist decapitation ''

'' Oro can react to FTG ''

'' Minato can't summon Ma and Pa even though the manga makes it obvious he can ''

 

[Nattana]

All I saw was

'' Oro can resist decapitation ''

'' Oro can react to FTG ''

'' Minato can't summon Ma and Pa even though the manga makes it obvious he can ''

I've never said Oro could react to FTG. It's instant lol.

There are so many things that imply that Minato can't summon them, it's not even funny.

And about decapitation:

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[Blaze Release]

This fight can go either way. But first lmfao at those who believe either party is taking this with low/easy diff.

OT: Orochimaru overall imo is more intelligent than minato overall, however minato is more intelligent than orochimaru in battle. Minato is a better combatant. Orochimaru's strength is also his weakness. His strength is his 'immortality' that makes him very difficult to put down and you will need either a sealing technique or an extreme strong technique, he did afterall mention that naruto's bijuu dama can kill him. But this strength is also his weakness, due to his immortality he is careless no different to hidan. He will willing put himself in danger to taunt his enemy and brag about his immortality or just not evade an attack he should be able to evade.

Due to this very reason Minato will deffo tag orochimaru. However the problem is that, orochimaru is actually one of the few shinobi's that when tagged can get rid of the hiraishin seal. With his kawarimi he can shed his skin, therefore the seal will be on his old skin. In his unhealthy state agains't naruto, was able to use this technique 4 times. While orochimaru might be an idiot in battle, he is no fool. Yes i do see Minato tagging him, but not 4 times to keep needing to use the kawarimi though, even when tagged minato doesn't possess much in his arsenal to put orochimaru down for good and that is the problem for Minato, the only technique that feats wise will put orochimaru down is the shiki fjuin and that comes at a cost. I guess that is why those in favour of him are arguing shima and fukasaku which imo is not possible because i believe those two are special summons which require special abilities, i believe those exposed to sennin modo or sennin modo training is what is needed to summon them and minato isn't any form of a sage. Even if he does summon them and uses gamarinsho to paralyze him and stab him with those stone swords, whether that would be enough to kill oro is do not know.

As for orochimaru. He can excrete, i believe odorless poison into the air which paralyses. Such a technique would mean that he doesn't have to touch minato as inhaling this poison would paralyze minato on its own, enough for oro to give him a blow. Likewise techniques such as Mandara no Jin which orochimaru can use to an extent to control the battlefield will make life even for minato hard to maneuver even with hiraishin.

Whoever wins will take it with high diff

 

[blazekev90]

ewww why did the admin edit post that weren't mine lmao

 

[Klad]

It can go either way .

But honestly , I don't see how Minato wins low diff , Orochimaru knows a lot of jutsus , how is Minato gonna with low diff ?

I say Minato extremely high diff .

 

[pateuvasiliu]

There are so many things that imply that Minato can't summon them, it's not even funny.

Except the manga proves he can.

Ma and Pa reverse summoned Naruto, implying that the toad contract includes them. Meaning Minato can summon them.

 

[stoikis]

after reading 4 pages of fanboy bss I'll just post my valid points here

1 Minato is the same tier is Iachi
2 Itachi stomped Oro twice
3 Minato is a Hokage Oro is just a sannin
4 once Minato marks Oro it's over because he won't be able to use oral rebirth effective while being overwhelmed via rasengan spam....
5 Minato has shown better speed feats... Oro with his current speed feats cannot even touch him
6 Minato was stated to be the strongest Hokage which means he is supposed to be > prime Hiruzen and Oro admitted that even a 60 years old Hiruzen can own him...


Minato > Oro

1 stupid logic
2 true
3 Hokage rank means nothink.Oro was Hokage candidate but because he was pedophile hiruzen choose minato.Also many people considered that as a mistake.(too lazy to post a scan)
4 yes because minato can spam rasengan constantly right ?
5 .Bee already predict ftg.What makes you think oro can't
6 where ?????

From your other post i knot that you always underrate him.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

5 .Bee already predict ftg.What makes you think oro can't

The fact that he can't?

 

[Nattana]

Except the manga proves he can.

Ma and Pa reverse summoned Naruto, implying that the toad contract includes them. Meaning Minato can summon them.

Pa stated himsel that he didn't know about ANY Jiraya's students. That implies that Minato doesn't know Pa and Ma.
Moreover, Jiraya would've summoned them before entering Sage Mode if he could. Ma and Pa would help him with gathering natural energy. That's where it's implied that he didn't summon them because Sage Toads can be summoned by ppl in Sage Mode. This theory is also supported by Databook.

 

[Klad]

1 stupid logic

Hows that a stupid logic ? Minato is maybe even stronger than Itachi , it can go either way though , but yeah .

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

1 stupid logic
2 true
3 Hokage rank means nothink.Oro was Hokage candidate but because he was pedophile hiruzen choose minato.Also many people considered that as a mistake.(too lazy to post a scan)
4 yes because minato can spam rasengan constantly right ?
5 .Bee already predict ftg.What makes you think oro can't
6 where ?????

From your other post i knot that you always underrate him.

1 not really
2 im glad you agree
3 Minato is still at least a tier above him
4 rasengan doesn't take much chakra. oral rebirth takes a lot.
5 the fact that oro is slower
6 tired to search for scans...
"it's though to compare anyone to the 4th"
(Jman)
"only Naruto can surpass him"
(Kakashi)...
"if Hiruzen was only 10 years younger the outcome of the battle could have been different"
(Kishimoto)
don't believe me if you don't want to but these are valid quotes

 

[stoikis]

Hows that a stupid logic ? Minato is maybe even stronger than Itachi , it can go either way though , but yeah .

what is this bulshit tier?
Now i know itachi>oro(oro said that himself)
but ALIVE minato>oro.Just no

Also oro(with edo tensei) rapes both of them 1vs1

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Pa stated himsel that he didn't know about ANY Jiraya's students. That implies that Minato doesn't know Pa and Ma.
Moreover, Jiraya would've summoned them before entering Sage Mode if he could. Ma and Pa would help him with gathering natural energy. That's where it's implied that he didn't summon them because Sage Toads can be summoned by ppl in Sage Mode. This theory is also supported by Databook.

Pa didn't know Minato, yet he said Naruto surpassed him? Now, how does that make sense?

Bold. Jiraiya had already summoned a boss toad and used some large scale ninjutsu. He was conserving chakra. Double-summoning such powerful summons must take a lot.

Sage Toads can be summoned by ppl in Sage Mode.

Fanfiction.

 

[Nattana]

1 not really
2 im glad you agree
3 Minato is still at least a tier above him
4 rasengan doesn't take much chakra. oral rebirth takes a lot.
5 the fact that oro is slower
6 tired to search for scans...
"it's though to compare anyone to the 4th"
(Jman)
"only Naruto can surpass him"
(Kakashi)...
"if Hiruzen was only 10 years younger the outcome of the battle could have been different"
(Kishimoto)
don't believe me if you don't want to but these are valid quotes

I'm 99% sure that that sentence about being '10 years younger' was about Hiruzen being able to completely seal Oro with Dead Demon Consuming Seal, not about defeating him in a normal way.

 

[Prince Charles]

I honestly think people are underestimating Orochimaru here. The only offensive attack that Minato has shown is Rasegan which is quite powerful but it isnt doing jack shit against orochimaru. We his body literally get ripped to shreds in half by Naruto and it

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. Like I said Rasegan aint doing jack shit to this man. So that only leaves the use of FTG and sealing orochimaru.

We all know how Minato fights. His fighting style revolves around the use of his FTG seals more or less. As shown during the

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and against

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. Orochimaru can easily counter this with his

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. As you can clearly see Minato throwing his FTG kunai near or at Orochimaru is useless so that only leaves Minato marking the ground with his

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Gamabunta is a non factor here. He gets hit by Kusanagi sword more or less into the battle if Minato decides to summon him. Regarding the use of the Contract seal I admit it plays a large role and if he hits orochimaru with it and will leave orochimaru quite vulnerable but as shown orochimaru has plenty of snakes hidden within his body that do not require any form of hand seal or contract Orochimaru is still at a major disadvantage here with his summons gone due to the CT he still has plenty of snakes within his body.

Also straight from naruto wiki it removes any direct control the summoner has over a summoned creature. Hint hint it saids Summoned Creature not SUMMONS which apply to more than one summon so even if gets hit with the CT it only applies to one summon. Not every single one.

As shown Orochimaru is capable of Literally merging into any environment or object as we see

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When minato realizes Orochimaru merging into the ground he will have to be on his guard and be prepared for any surprised attack. If anything he will try to sense orochimaru with

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But this can also leave Minato very vulnerable at the same time since his whole blindside is left open.

Orochimaru's speed really shouldnt be underrated.

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When he goes into his Snake tailed form his lower body changes form and his speed and agility greatly increases.

Minato actually doesnt want to get in Mid range of orochimaru and heres why. As shown during the forest of death while Orochimaru is fighting anko he uses his

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This is a short to mid range technique used by Orochimaru. If Minato were to, which he most likely would get in radius of this technique he will undoubtedly fall victim to paralysis.

After Minato gets paralyzed, Orochimaru will drain Minatos chakra by a single touch with no worries as he did against dsm kabuto[

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Now this was before Minato showed kage bushin no jutsu and etc, Now that we know he has bushins he is much more dangerous but I believe orochimaru will be capable of dealing with the matter. People have brought up the matter of Minato sealing his summons with the contract seal theirs the matter of will it be able to release the contract ofAll of orochimaru's snake summons? I doubt it due to my understanding The CS only releases one summon in control.

 

[Nattana]

Pa didn't know Minato, yet he said Naruto surpassed him? Now, how does that make sense?

Bold. Jiraiya had already summoned a boss toad and used some large scale ninjutsu. He was conserving chakra. Double-summoning such powerful summons must take a lot.

Well, not everything makes sense. It may be a plot hole.

Fanfiction.

Databook implies otherwise. +Minato has never summonned them.

I guess we won't convince each other.
Anyway, I just hope you agree with at least some of my arguments I came up with during our post exchange ^^ (considering that you intentionally skipped some parts).

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Also straight from naruto wiki it removes any direct control the summoner has over a summoned creature. Hint hint it saids Summoned Creature not SUMMONS which apply to more than one summon so even if gets hit with the CT it only applies to one summon. Not every single one.

How does the one that uses the seal choose which creature to remove the control from? Seems fishy.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Prince Charles pretty much ended this thread.