Minato vs Obito

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Scenario 1: Obito has rinnegan and ms(kamui) and minato has only KCM
Scenario 2: Obito has rinnegan and ms(kamui) and minato has BM
Scenario 3: Obito has rinnegan and ms kamui + 6 paths(jinchuurikis) and lets assume minato has perfect Sm
and he fused it with his Bm
 

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Minato wins each n every scenario... 2nd n 3rd are too easy...
 

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W/o Gedo Mazo,Minato wins in all scenarios.
 

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forgot to mention in the 3rd scenario obito has gedo mazo too
 
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Obito wins scenario 1, loses scenarios 2 and 3.
 

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Obito smashes in all 3 senerios
 

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Obito wins 1 and 3, but 2 could go either way.​
 

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Obito may have a chance to win 1
2 and 3 goes for minato
 

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If
Base Minato > Obito
then
KCM Minato > Rinnegan Obito
BM Minato > Rinnegan Obito w/ Gedo Mazou
BSM Minato > Rinnegan Obito 5000 times.
 

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Obito wins the 1st scene. Scene 2-3 goes to Minato.
 

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Obito solo's the 1st but 2nd and 3rd Minato takes it home
 

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Minato wins 1 & 2 loses the third
 

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Minato wins all 3. Gedo statue couldn't even catch Hanzo.
 

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1. Minato wins 1, since you can only beat Obito with landing fast little attacks or a 5 min continuous attack. Huge attacks are useless, so this is perfect condition for him.


2. It can go either way.


3. Minato loses, I made a case for this long ago. I will quote:


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First thing I want to point out are the jinjurikis ninjutsu. Ever since Killer Bee showed feats of using his Buijuu's ninjutsu in base form, it confirmed that what ever ninjutsu they used can also be used in Full Buijuu. An example would be ink ninjutsu[ ]. We later see it when Hachibi decide to use Ink Release in a seal form[ ].

The same can be applied to the other Jins.

Kishimoto pretty much confirmed it in another way:

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2 tails: You either believe she can use the Rat Hairball[ ] without her Buijuu or use common sense that its a technique that came from her Buijuu.

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3 tails: Pre arcs of capturing this Buijuu was confirmed that it was a water-type, thus can use water style[ ]. That fact the water came from the staff[ ] (must be some type of thing produce from 3rd tail via solid coral, assuming) could indicate one of its water jutsu.

4 tails: Databook stated " Roshi was on a trip in order to control the excessive power of Yonbi, which he carries since childhood. At his wandering's end, he understood he could borrow Yonbi's chakra to fuse fire and earth nature into "lava ninjutsu". These torrents of lava melt all things away". And Kisame Manga statement confirms this[ ].

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5 tail:
(not much need to be said/wasn't really introduce in the manga)

6 tails: Bubbles in base form (not much need to be said/wasn't really introduce in the manga)

7 tails: Scale camouflage (not much need to be said/wasn't really introduce in the manga)

This page also confirm using V2 cloak compare to Full BM [ ].

So where am I going with this? Simple. Any jutsu's that was presented during the Edo jinjuriki fight can be use in Full BM. what jutsu we seen in base form and V2, can ALSO be used in FULL Buijuu Mode.

These conditions help alot when they need to use ninjutsu compatible in dealing with Summonings/ other Buijuus.

So what ever argument made of dealing with KCM/Base Minato, can also be used in Full BM Mode for Edo Jins.
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Dealing With Minato's Main Arsenal: FTG.​

These Buijuu's have easy tactics when dealing with this. Since FTG is marked by territory, the simple trick is to use Saiken's Bubble Release spread around its territory FTG marking[ ]. It can be use as landmines or explode by the users will[ ]. Minato teleporting to Kunai's will get hit by the bubbles. The impact were enough to effect KCM Naruto, which force Bee to escape before they took its full effect with multiple of them.

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Saiken alone can play a supporting/defense role. Any teleportation will lead to Bubble Explosion, which works the moment of impact. The results won't kill but leave Minato an a vulnerable state. Minato can sacrifice clones for the Bubble LandMines, but the tactic will only work temporary, as Saiken will simply supply more bubbles, while Minato will wasting BM time.

Jinjuriki Combo

Each can play different roles here:

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In Matatabi case, she can be sending Hair Ball to track Minato[ ]<-- The scan also shows Yugito supporting her homing jutsu by following the opponent, ready to land a clean attack right after her jutsu[ ] Cat claw can be useful with this combination. Open field benefits Obito with this jutsu. If Minato teleports away from its homing range, BubbleMines are ready for him.

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In Isobu case, he can also play the defensive role, then use Rollout when necessary. BM Rasengan can put out any Buijuu out of commission[ ]. But if Isobu plays it right, he can create the mirror to beat it just like he canonically did to KCM Naruto[ ], repelling back his attacks. He can also use his Rollout for mobility[ ], as he just needs to plant one punch to produce coral[ ]. That was able to immobilize KCM Mode[ ]. BM effect will be effective against BM cloak.

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In Son Goku case, he has shown impressive strength to even swing around the 8 tails[ ], while visually showing the best Taijutsu out of all Buijuu's[ ]. What further supports Goku is the ability to wear Magma armor, to further amp his Taijutsu[ ]. It took Rasengan to strip off the molten armor, which can buy time to counter Minato, while suffering for attempting. Not only that but if Minato stays in his Close Quarter range, he will be damage from Flower Fruit Mountain[ ]. In just V2, the scaling was half way of BM size. Magma Balls can also clear out FTG Kunai's[ ]. Or more pressuring with on Minato and Summoning.

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Kokuō is nearly featless, but has the more physical power out of the Buijuu's. Horn Snap[ ] will take BM or Summonings out of commission with one strike. With the other 6 beast tactics, he can easily make that happen.

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Seiken can also play two more roles with support:

First: Is using his Gas Mist[ ]. It can clear away any attempt Toad Summonings can be useful for in CQC. Only proper jutsus are needed to split its direction of direct contact, something that can act like Morning Peacock[ ]

Second: Stinky Substance[ ]. The scaling of this substance rivals Summonings/Buijuu. Seikan can easily use it to envelop Minato (if he is not going to teleport BM) or Summoning by spraying them, which will easily entrap them, thus vulnerable to any melee or another long range attack.


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In Chōmei case, she can simply blind Minato or Summonings[ ]. Minato can only use Malice sensing in this condition. His Summonings can get wiped out during this.


Minato get overwhelm with the Buijuu's power together, as a working force. And TBB just makes the battle look easy for Minato even having a chance here, as this jutsu can be easily counter by him. Thus everything else is overlooked
 
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