Minato vs Ms Obito

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Didn't maddy leave gedo in his possession despite not having rinne?

But he never used it, Nagato did. Anyways, if he has Gedo Mazo and can control it, he wins, if he doesn't, then he loses like he did in canon.
 

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Minato wins this,,,,anyone claiming otherwise is reluctant to admit canon

--Minato can use his FTG kunai as well as KB to evade everything that obito throws at him,,,,

--FTG has already outrunned Kamui,,, and the same would happen here,, as whenever obito manifests physically to attack minato,,, Minato would be the one landing the blow since FTG is faster,, and this would result in obito getting marked,,

--Obito Mokutons and Katon are non factor since Minato can evade them through FTG,,, and the fact that obito would materialse whilst attacking makes it worse for him,, as Minato can use his FTG lvl2 to attack him again,,,

--This fight already happened in canon,,, i dont see why theres a need to debate anymore,, when its clear that obito lost fair and square
 

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Despite the simplicity of the technique(frog jumps on shoulder...that's it) I won't give it to minato. It's diving to far into speculation for it to be fair. Let's for once minato's word for what it is. His limit is 2 min and it takes 5 to set up.

Databook scans and other manga scans make it less of a speculation to be honest. But yeah I see what you mean.
 

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But he never used it, Nagato did. Anyways, if he has Gedo Mazo and can control it, he wins, if he doesn't, then he loses like he did in canon.

It doesn't contain any tailed beasts so if he wants to use it he has to hook himself up(whether it's like how he connected himself to the tails during the initial transformations or its like how nagato did it we can't really tell but according varia boss it's apart of his arsenal.
 

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But he never used it, Nagato did. Anyways, if he has Gedo Mazo and can control it, he wins, if he doesn't, then he loses like he did in canon.

It doesn't contain any tailed beasts so if he wants to use it he has to hook himself up(whether it's like how he connected himself to the tails during the initial transformations or its like how nagato did it we can't really tell but according varia boss it's apart of his arsenal.)
 

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Minato already won with 0 intel so I can't see him losing this.
 

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Obito wins this. Minato won cuz of ftg lvl 2,with full intel,as well as other techs like moukton,izanagi, obito isnt loosing.
 

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Lmfao. Wherever I see you go you're wanking Obito.

And all 1,550 of your pathetic post is all about Sasuke's d*ck so far down your throat.

Gtfo kid
 

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He gets sensing and the obvious oomphh that coming from nature that's the only given.

As for obito having rikudo tech's hell no. Obito has all uchiha tech's not rikudo. And even if he did have rikudo tech's he can't use them since ms obito isn't in possession of the rinnegan.

Why not?

Madara stated by combining both uchiha and senju kekkai genkai's, you can control the Gedo statue (which you restricted) and learn the rikudo tech's.

You need the rinnegan to utilize the full power (shown by Madara)

Madara while blind was able to use the black rods and absorb chakra with preta.

Now you're denying that Obito can't use the techniques?
 

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Madara while blind was able to use the black rods and absorb chakra with preta.
1. No he wasnt,,, madara had embedded the rods on hashirama whilst he was in his edo form as he still had the fake rinnegan in that form,, he then used the rods prominently after he got his rinnegan,,,,
2. Madara didnt absorb chakra with preta either,,, he simply removed his armor to get rid of the flames
 

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The only difference between 14 yr old Obito and 30 yr old Obito is age. He had the same degree of control over Kamui that he does now, he had the same jutsu: Mokuton, Izanagi, Kamui. Yet he still got shitted on. Excuses like:

-"He's gotten faster"

-"He was inexperienced"

Are nothing but bullshit.


Minato shits on any form of MS Obito.
 

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Why not?

Madara stated by combining both uchiha and senju kekkai genkai's, you can control the Gedo statue (which you restricted) and learn the rikudo tech's.

You need the rinnegan to utilize the full power (shown by Madara)

Madara while blind was able to use the black rods and absorb chakra with preta.

Now you're denying that Obito can't use the techniques?

A) maddy's statement was disproven by the sage
B)maddy never used rinne tech's without the rinne
C)obito's mastery over rinne=/=maddy's despite him learning the techs. He couldn't even use both eyes at the same time.
 

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The only way obito can beat minato in this case is with a summon, otherwise he loses.
 
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The only difference between 14 yr old Obito and 30 yr old Obito is age. He had the same degree of control over Kamui that he does now, he had the same jutsu: Mokuton, Izanagi, Kamui. Yet he still got shitted on. Excuses like:

-"He's gotten faster"

-"He was inexperienced"

Are nothing but bullshit.


Minato shits on any form of MS Obito.
With this logic i guess vote Sasuke=Hebi Sasuke because they both have cm2 and 3tomoe right?
 

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With this logic i guess vote Sasuke=Hebi Sasuke because they both have cm2 and 3tomoe right?

If you are going to come at me don't come at me with garbage logic. Hebi Sasuke's chakra reserves, speed, strength, and overall Ninjutsu ability got a dramatic boost over the timeskip.

Did Obito get any noticeable boost? No, he didn't. He still relies on the same old Kamui and none of his jutsu have shown a dramatic boost in power.
 

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1. No he wasnt,,, madara had embedded the rods on hashirama whilst he was in his edo form as he still had the fake rinnegan in that form,, he then used the rods prominently after he got his rinnegan,,,,
2. Madara didnt absorb chakra with preta either,,, he simply removed his armor to get rid of the flames

1. Madara used the black rods to immobilize Hashirama (make him yield/kneel)

2. Madara used preta to absorb Hashirama's chakra
 
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