Minato vs Madara(3tomoe)

[Bogard]

I know Minato is underrated in this base but i never thought i could see posts such as this one

3-Tomoe Madara could probably take Minato down.

Reason why i decided to create this thread to understand the reasons behind this

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[Edo Odin]

Well, since we haven't seen anything of 3t Madara yet, we can't really say for sure, but based on what we've seen so far, I don't really see anyone with a 3t taking out someone of Minato's caliber.

 

[Bogard]

Well, since we haven't seen anything of 3t Madara yet, we can't really say for sure, but based on what we've seen so far, I don't really see anyone with a 3t taking out someone of Minato's caliber.

We've seen Madara fighting in base against the alliance ninja though

If you think any version of madara other than kid version would lose to minato.

Then

1. Your a Troll

2. Your a Fanboy


Minato fans are haveing a hard enough time trying to make up a way that minato defeats sasuke or itachi.

Arguments? None? Irrelevant post then

 

[shelke]

Minato is underrated here? Oh dear Lord. He's the most over-rated guy on NB, and I thought Itachi was over-rated. The guy basically beats everyone. Even EMS Madara and Hashirama as well. You must be off your rocker.

Reasons:

A large Katon attack burns all his FTG Kunais. His Katon attack is so powerful that it took several water guns to put it out.

Madara’s mastery of fire release nature transformation and other fire techniques- -
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- It managed to burn Tsunade as well.

He has nothing left to teleport then. Madara can fight easily with 3T as he has shown extremely impressive Kenjutsu, Taijutsu, and Speed feats at this level. Madara can effortlessly take him on in Taijutsu and win given his incredible war-time experience since a very young age. This is non-debatable and undisputed manga fact.

Madara’s amazing speed, kenjutsu, and Taijutsu:
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- He dodged all attacks easily.
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His Rasangan is thrown back at him with Gunbai:

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- He also deflected a mini TBB.

If he summons any toad, it's put under genjutsu to do his bidding. In fact, Mintao himself is put under Sharingan Genjutsu at base speed or at any level if he looks at the eyes. His S/T Barrier requires handseals and for him to hold his ground. This can be prove through this post I made in another thread:

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- See the chakra gathering in its mouth? Not only was Minato able to deliver a dialogue, but he formed seals as well.

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- Chakra gathering, and Mintao had enough time to summon the toad to stop it:

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. If this isn't sluggish, then I don't know what is :

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and the TBB is still charging in its mouth. You call this a quick technique?

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- See him using his special Kunai to relocate the blast else where? Look at him standing at the corner, relocating the blast, as he has to because his technique doesn't work like Obito's. He can't simply take things in and not do anything with them. Both his technques FTG and S/T barrier are teleportation techniques. Now while he's transporting an attack after putting it through the barrier, he won't be open to any attacks? He'll be dead the second he decides to use this barrier.

If he decides to use this at any time during the battle, he is exploited and becomes vulnerable to attacks. Madara's intelligence is backed by his leadership and the fact that he led Uchiha clan as a mercenary faction and never lost a single battle. He killed several adult and skilled Senju Shinobi at a tender age. If anyone thinks Minato beats Madara here, then they are off their meds and deplorably deluded. 3T Madara takes this mid difference.

 

[KidGamer65]

Minato is underrated here? Oh dear Lord. He's the most over-rated guy on NB, and I thought Itachi was over-rated. The guy basically beats everyone. Even EMS Madara and Hashirama as well. You must be off your rocker.

Reasons:

A large Katon attack burns all his FTG Kunais. His Katon attack is so powerful that it took several water guns to put it out.

Madara’s mastery of fire release nature transformation and other fire techniques- -
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- It managed to burn Tsunade as well.

He has nothing left to teleport then. Madara can fight easily with 3T as he has shown extremely impressive Kenjutsu, Taijutsu, and Speed feats at this level. Madara can effortlessly take him on in Taijutsu and win given his incredible war-time experience since a very young age. This is non-debatable and undisputed manga fact.

Madara’s amazing speed, kenjutsu, and Taijutsu:
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- He dodged all attacks easily.
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His Rasangan is thrown back at him with Gunbai:

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- He also deflected a mini TBB.

If he summons any toad, it's put under genjutsu to do his bidding. In fact, Mintao himself is put under Sharingan Genjutsu at base speed or at any level if he looks at the eyes. His S/T Barrier requires handseals and for him to hold his ground. This can be prove through this post I made in another thread:



If he decides to use this at any time during the battle, he is exploited and becomes vulnerable to attacks. Madara's intelligence is backed by his leadership and the fact that he led Uchiha clan as a mercenary faction and never lost a single battle. He killed several adult and skilled Senju Shinobi at a tender age. If anyone thinks Minato beats Madara here, then they are off their meds and deplorably deluded. 3T Madara takes this mid difference.

Lmao I was wondering when you were going to show up to this thread..I agree with every thing you said.

 

[Bogard]

Lmao I was wondering when you were going to show up to this thread..I agree with every thing you said.

It's your reasons i'm looking for. I don't like to respond to trolls. The discussion will go nowhere

 

[KidGamer65]

It's your reasons i'm looking for. I don't like to respond to trolls. The discussion will go nowhere

I mostly agree with him, I don't see how he's a troll.

 

[Bogard]

I mostly agree with him, I don't see how he's a troll.

Agreeing with him isn't a response. But meh i'll start then

Madara has shown to be able only to barely react to V1 Raikage who is said to be slower than Minato

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Just replace Raikage with Minato under the same circonstances and the match would have already be over at that point since Madara would have gotten the marking

From there then all his attacks could either be dodged or redirected via S/T barrier, so from there everything Madara would try to launch at Minato could possibly kill himself

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And that is if Minato doesn't decide to kill him personally by teleporting next to him and finishing him either with his kunai or rasengan
Your reply?

 

[shelke]

Lmao I was wondering when you were going to show up to this thread..I agree with every thing you said.

Yeah, I noticed it just now.

 

[KidGamer65]

Agreeing with him isn't a response. But meh i'll start then

Madara has shown to be able only to barely react to V1 Raikage who is said to be slower than Minato

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Just replace Raikage with Minato under the same circonstances and the match would have already be over at that point since Madara would have gotten the marking

From there then all his attacks could either be dodged or redirected via S/T barrier, so from there everything Madara would try to launch at Minato could possibly kill himself

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And that is if Minato doesn't decide to kill him personally by teleporting next to him and finishing him either with his kunai or rasengan
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V1 Raikage was never said to be slower than Minato's Base Speed and V1 can be tracked with Sharingan so tracking Minato shouldn't be a problem.

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Madara has his Gunbai for this fight, which he didn't have when A attacked him so any onslaught made by Minato with his Base speed like A did can be deflected. Whether he throws a Kunai at him or whether he uses Rasengan. The Gunbai's barrier will block it and Uchihagaeshi will reflect the Rasengan.

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So he isn't getting marked there.

Minato can'tredirect Madara's Katon if he uses it in close range , he'll be forced to warp away, for example during CQC.

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If either those land a direct hit on Minato then its over for him.

Madara has already shown superior Taijutsu and Kenjutsu feats to Minato.

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He's also susceptible to Genjutsu during CQC which will give him an opening to finish Minato off.

Katon to burn up the Kunai means no FTG blitz. Sharingan means no Base speed Blitz. Gunbai means Rasengan is reflected.

 

[Bogard]

V1 Raikage was never said to be slower than Minato's Base Speed and V1 can be tracked with Sharingan so tracking Minato shouldn't be a problem.

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Lol, where does this "base speed" expression come from? Speed includes everything, body movements, reactions, etc. And the guy even in V2 the guy was couldn't react to Minato's speed and you want me to believe V1 is faster?

Madara has his Gunbai for this fight, which he didn't have when A attacked him so any onslaught made by Minato with his Base speed like A did can be deflected. Whether he throws a Kunai at him or whether he uses Rasengan. The Gunbai's barrier will block it and Uchihagaeshi will reflect the Rasengan.

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So he isn't getting marked there.

Lol do you notice that when Minato throw the kunais they are around Madara? What will Madara do when the kunais are around him? FTG is instant. He won't even have time to react. We're talking about a speed that even surpass Obito's intangibility capacity that not even someone as fast as Naruto could surpass. The time the kunais reaches Madara, Minato could instantly teleport next to him and put the marking, so fast that Madara won't even have time to react, just ask to Obito how it was

Minato can'tredirect Madara's Katon if he uses it in close range , he'll be forced to warp away, for example during CQC.

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Lol, so you want to say me that the time Madara takes to compose the handseals necessary, Minato couldn't put the barrier? Also, at close range, it's even more favorable for a blitz to happen

Madara has already shown superior Taijutsu and Kenjutsu feats to Minato.

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Sure his taijutsu is impressive, but it won't help because engaging Minato in taijutsu is suicidal. He only needs one marking on your body to end the fight and when Minato is faster than Madara, he would have difficulties to react

He's also susceptible to Genjutsu during CQC which will give him an opening to finish Minato off.

Minato has shown to be able to fight Sharingan users without looking at their eyes

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Katon to burn up the Kunai means no FTG blitz. Sharingan means no Base speed Blitz. Gunbai means Rasengan is reflected.

Katon can't burn kunais. I don't know where this BS idea come from. Are you forgetting Itachi's or Sasuke's shuriken fire techniques? I don't remember that their kunais are burning when they use them? Furthermore, what is important is not the kunai, but the marking which is made of chakra. I hardly see what fire attacks will do here

 

[Rewmac]

I hope I'm not being a fanboy here, but a 3-Tome Sharingan isn't strong enough to see all of Minato's teleportations. He can use the kunai rain to have hell of a lot tags around the battle field, he only needs to tag Madara once to be able to teleport on him whenever he wants to. Even if the 3T Sharingan is capable of keeping up with technique usage I don't think it can keep up with the actual speed at which Minato does the Flying Thunder God. On the other hand I don't think that a couple Rasengans and some taijutsu is enough, he needs to use seal and take advantage of his speed.

 

[KidGamer65]

Yeah, I changed my mind. Minato wins.

 

[Bogard]

Yeah, I changed my mind. Minato wins.

Nice to know

 

[KidGamer65]

Nice to know

I feel like I just had one of those stupid moments...kinda like when I thought Tobi wasn't Obito, lmao.

 

[Edo Odin]

Katon can't burn kunais. I don't know where this BS idea come from. Are you forgetting Itachi's or Sasuke's shuriken fire techniques? I don't remember that their kunais are burning when they use them? Furthermore, what is important is not the kunai, but the marking which is made of chakra. I hardly see what fire attacks will do here

Actually, while it may not destroy the Kunai itself, Fire based attacks would render the technique useless as it would simply burn up the paper that the formula is on, meaning that it'd only be a simple Kunai.

Other than that, I agree with pretty much everything you say.

 

[fastrthnwind]

Actually, while it may not destroy the Kunai itself, Fire based attacks would render the technique useless as it would simply burn up the paper that the formula is on, meaning that it'd only be a simple Kunai.

Other than that, I agree with pretty much everything you say.

the seal isnt on a piece of paper, but made by minatos chakra like whe he put it on the cloud jounins feet to teleport to him.

BTW I agree with bogard. Without susanoo to pretect him, madara wont be able to defend himself against a FTG blitz.

 

[Edo Odin]

the seal isnt on a piece of paper, but made by minatos chakra like whe he put it on the cloud jounins feet to teleport to him.

BTW I agree with bogard. Without susanoo to pretect him, madara wont be able to defend himself against a FTG blitz.

The seal is put on piece of paper, which is put on a Kunai.

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[Curse Mark]

Jigga-jack!! You ****in' wack!

 

[fastrthnwind]

The seal is put on piece of paper, which is put on a Kunai.

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There is yellow paper on the kunai, but nowhere else he makes the mark like on KB's tentacle, Obito's back, and the cloud jounin's foot.