Minato vs. Kakuzu and Kisame

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And ? that's only words, which were pronounced by Kisame, who didn't have an information about Jiraiya's power. Only "Title".
Amaterasu, Genjutsu and fire style techniques are useful in battle with Kisame. What about Susanoo ? Well,
Suiton Dai Bakusui Shoha
 

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And ? that's only words, which were pronounced by Kisame, who didn't have an information about Jiraiya's power. Only "Title".
Amaterasu, Genjutsu and fire style techniques are useful in battle with Kisame. What about Susanoo ? Well,
Suiton Dai Bakusui Shoha

Irrelevant. Kisame believed that Itachi could only battle him because he presumed that he was on an entirely different league as he was. That doesn't require knowledge on Jiraiya's strength.

And Susano'o from a close-range easily intercepts and prevents Kisame from using any seals.
 

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. Kakashi is not on Minato's tier of speed

Nope

Irrelevant. Kisame believed that Itachi could only battle him because he presumed that he was on an entirely different league as he was. That doesn't require knowledge on Jiraiya's strength.
And Susano'o from a close-range easily intercepts and prevents Kisame from using any seals.

Itachi is not in a different league than Kisame stop with the nonsense hoe.


OT - Take away the restrictions and Kisame nearly low diffs he definitely solos.
 

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Itachi is not in a different league than Kisame stop with the nonsense hoe.


OT - Take away the restrictions and Kisame nearly low diffs he definitely solos.

Itachi > Jiraiya > Kisame.
 

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Itachi > Jiraiya > Kisame.

And that does not mean they're are leagues apart df especially when those 3 are all close af in terms of power plus the abc logic is shitty.

3RD Raikage > Minato > itachi but Itachi > the 3rd
 

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And that does not mean they're are leagues apart df especially when those 3 are all close af in terms of power plus the abc logic is shitty.

3RD Raikage > Minato > itachi but Itachi > the 3rd

Actually, Itachi > Minato > Sandaime Raikage.

My power chain was referring to how powerful each ninja were in general, not in a 1v1 scenario.
 

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Awww look at the poor little autistic child.
Most % of users, who are saying these words, are autistic's btw. You are talking to a doctro son.
"Kisame believed that Itachi could only battle him because he presumed that he was on an entirely different league as he was."
Nope. Meh, i'll try to explain something to you : It was said, that Hiruzen was the strongets among kage's. But, Oonoki is way stronger.
It was said, that Jiraiya was stronger than Pains. But... Now you got it ? Kisame is stronger, than Itachi. Uchiha just do not have a technique, that's able to kill Kisame. Minato also don't have any technique, that can kill that fish (i'm talking about base minato, without Kurama).
 

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I was going to say Minato wins, but now that I think of it, he has no ways of bypassing Domu.
 

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Domu? Bring Down The House? Chou Oodama Rasengan? No?
 

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Meh :\ : DDD
Minato won't use Shiki Fujin, to seal him/them. It's nonsense.
 

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And it's featless. Stop bringing nonsense to VS threads.

And Hydra is featless.

This is common sense at this point.

Minato's described as a genius in ninjutsu, exhibited phenomenal chakra control just by utilizing Rasengan and Shiki Fujin, and proceeded to engage in strenuous training such as refining the Rasengan which required studious attempts in refining his elemental manipulation. In what way would Minato's elemental manipulation be considered weak and irrelevant? This is simply an argument out of ignorance and simply yelling that something is featless when in all actuality, the answer is implicit doesn't really help your argument at all.
 

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Because Itachi's genjutsu literally subdued a Legendary Sannin and his skill using it eclipses any other Uchihas to date, being capable of ensnaring people easily even with knowledge and can use genjutsu in a way that doesn't distort the environment, making it very difficult to discern.

That is false oro got catch and was about to break himself free
 

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Actually, Itachi > Minato > Sandaime Raikage.

My power chain was referring to how powerful each ninja were in general, not in a 1v1 scenario.

. This is how I know you a troll minato was so powerful entire armies were told not to engage .

Basically minato did what madara did to the ailled forced army Daily
 

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And Hydra is featless.

This is common sense at this point.

Minato's described as a genius in ninjutsu, exhibited phenomenal chakra control just by utilizing Rasengan and Shiki Fujin, and proceeded to engage in strenuous training such as refining the Rasengan which required studious attempts in refining his elemental manipulation. In what way would Minato's elemental manipulation be considered weak and irrelevant? This is simply an argument out of ignorance and simply yelling that something is featless when in all actuality, the answer is implicit doesn't really help your argument at all.

Show me one manga panel of him using Raiton or go away.
 
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