Minato vs Jiraiya

[Nattana]

1. Minato low diff.
2. Minato mid to high diff.
3. Minato high diff.
Jiraiya don't have counter for FTG and toads are nearly useless in this fight.

Jiraya can sit on his big toads without letting Minato's kunai come close.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Minato wins all 3. Reverse contract seal takes away the toads. Then it's just Minato VS Jiraya, and Minato would definitely win in those scenarios. BTW, Is SM restricted for Minato? Also, if RDS is only restricted in scenario 1, then every match other than that at worst for Minato, is a tie.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Jiraya can sit on his big toads without letting Minato's kunai come close.

Or Minaro defeat him before he even got a chance to summon toad.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Or Minaro defeat him before he even got a chance to summon toad.

Not to mention that he could throw a kunai on top of a toad to teleport on it like Tobirama did to reach Madara on the gedo statue.

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[Nattana]

Minato wins all 3. Reverse contract seal takes away the toads. Then it's just Minato VS Jiraya, and Minato would definitely win in those scenarios. BTW, Is SM restricted for Minato? Also, if RDS is only restricted in scenario 1, then every match other than that at worst for Minato, is a tie.

You obviously have no idea what Contract Seal does. Stop posting bullshit.

Not to mention that he could throw a kunai on top of a toad to teleport on it like Tobirama did to reach Madara on the gedo statue.

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Madara wasn't expecting Tobirama and here Jiraya will keep an eye on Minato and can easily deflect some kunai.

 

[Bogard]

You should have restricted reverse summoning to make this more fair

 

[shelke]

Minato wins the first two. It's clean - sweep here. The last one goes to Jiraiya.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

You obviously have no idea what Contract Seal does. Stop posting bullshit.



Madara wasn't expecting Tobirama and here Jiraya will keep an eye on Minato and can easily deflect some kunai.

Neither do you genius. There's no databook page, but it's clearly a tool used against people with summons obviously. The name "reverse contract" obviously demonstrated nullifying a contract. You're just mad that there's a tool Minato has that can be used against the sannin.


"Keeping an eye" Does not equate to stopping. Please, pray tell, explain how Jiraya tracks shadow clones that telport at different angles.

 

[Nattana]

Neither do you genius. There's no databook page, but it's clearly a tool used against people with summons obviously. The name "reverse contract" obviously demonstrated nullifying a contract. You're just mad that there's a tool Minato has that can be used against the sannin.


"Keeping an eye" Does not equate to stopping. Please, pray tell, explain how Jiraya tracks shadow clones that telport at different angles.

Contract Seal removes DIRECT CONTROL OVER A SUMMON. Jiraya has NO direct control over any toad, since they help him because they want i to. Obito had direct control over Kyuubi because he kept him a prisoner with his Sharingan. If Contract Seal could de-summon, Kyuubi would've gotten de-summonned to the place he was in before Obito summonned him.
Minato isn't stopping Jiraya's summons.

And about ur kunai argument, Barrier: Canopy Method Formation solves the problem.

 

[KidGamer65]

Contract Seal removes DIRECT CONTROL OVER A SUMMON. Jiraya has NO direct control over any toad, since they help him because they want i to. Obito had direct control over Kyuubi because he kept him a prisoner with his Sharingan. If Contract Seal could de-summon, Kyuubi would've gotten de-summonned to the place he was in before Obito summonned him.
Minato isn't stopping Jiraya's summons.

And about ur kunai argument, Barrier: Canopy Method Formation solves the problem.

This guy has a point right here. In fact he's 100% correct. Contract Seal is useless against a summoner whose summons help him of their own free will. If Kurama was helping Obito of his own free will; contract seal would have been useless as Kurama wasn't unsummoned.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Contract Seal removes DIRECT CONTROL OVER A SUMMON. Jiraya has NO direct control over any toad, since they help him because they want i to. Obito had direct control over Kyuubi because he kept him a prisoner with his Sharingan. If Contract Seal could de-summon, Kyuubi would've gotten de-summonned to the place he was in before Obito summonned him.
Minato isn't stopping Jiraya's summons.

And about ur kunai argument, Barrier: Canopy Method Formation solves the problem.

And you're basing your information on what exactly? An unofficial wiki that is made by fans and not the writer?(Naruto wikia) Sorry, but contract seal obviously effects, well, the contract! There's a huge flaw in your logic about Kurama not being "de-summoned." WHERE IN THE HECK WOULD HAVE KURAMA BEEN DE-SUMMONED TO? Unlike the toads, he has no "place he returns to" He has no connection to any place, so naturally, he's not going to poof and go back to where he was released from Kushina since he has 0 connections to that place. Heck, reverse contract seal isn't even necessary. Summoning have a limited amount of time before forcibly going back and is not extremely long, certainly not long enough for Minato to not outlast it.

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Are you referring to the barrier? That's not enabling him to keep an eye on Minato. It has a limited range. Too limited for Jiraya to react to stop a kunai from reaching him.

 

[Bogard]

Contract Seal removes DIRECT CONTROL OVER A SUMMON. Jiraya has NO direct control over any toad, since they help him because they want i to. Obito had direct control over Kyuubi because he kept him a prisoner with his Sharingan. If Contract Seal could de-summon, Kyuubi would've gotten de-summonned to the place he was in before Obito summonned him.
Minato isn't stopping Jiraya's summons.

And about ur kunai argument, Barrier: Canopy Method Formation solves the problem.

They have the same summons. Minato can easily reverse summon Jiraya toads

 

[Nattana]

They have the same summons. Minato can easily reverse summon Jiraya toads

OP restricted toads from Minato.

 

[Bogard]

OP restricted toads from Minato.

I know, but nvm i made a jutsu mistake