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=DemonSenju;18353985]Lol. Tobirama put up a better fight against Juubito than BM Minato who got his arm cut off. Does that mean Tobirama > BM Minato? Let's stop acting like a retard.
No, you're saying a retarded thing. Lol
Yes, Minato got his hand cut off against full powered Obito. Tobirama got half os his body destroyed by a weaker one.
Was is Tobirama who saved the entire shinobi world by teleporting outside the barrier, or was it Minato? Lol
Was it Tobirama who used the Rassengan with Naruto to destroy Obito's chakra arms and damage his Gedu-dama or was it Minato?
Was it Tobirama who handled the chakra arms to the SA to pull out the Bijuus, or was it Minato?
Not enough to match Hashirama's number of wood clones. So Minato would be an idiot to try.
As if the the wooden clones even need that to defeat them. lol
It was even stated in the manga that they are fodder-level. Lol


Doubt Minato will take even a second to destroy those. Just like the fodders in the 3rd War. Lol
 

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Doesnt need to know whoch is real. Minato also use kage bunshin. All kage bunshin use shiki fuin on each clone until real one is caught.

You resort to clone because have no counter XD. Why hashi even make clone? You cannot even see jutsu lol.

Funny. Your argument is Minato will use RDS on every one of Hashirama's clones until the real one is caught, and you say I have no counter Lol

Minato can't even make that many clones , so your premise goes downhill from there. On top of that, the more times Minato uses RDS on a clone, the weaker he'll get since he seals pieces of himself into the death God.

Secondly, Hashirama won't be standing still the whole time. A clone sets up FTW, which puts Minato to sleep while "he tries to use RDS on all of Hashirama's clones"

Finally, with SM, Hashirama easily reacts to Minato seeing as how Madara reacted to Tobirama with Hashirama's Sage Mode.

Like I said, Hashirama stomps
 

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Edo Madara would have took a dump on BM Minato
BS...Edo Madara Has Nothing To Put BM Minato Down.

Lol. Tobirama put up a better fight against Juubito than BM Minato who got his arm cut off. Does that mean Tobirama > BM Minato? Let's stop acting like a retard.
Full Control Juubito Cut Minato's Right Arm While Mindless Juubito Ripped Tobirama's Body Apart...If The Hokages Wasn't In Edo Form After The Battle Minato Would've Been The Only Alive One...The Others Bodies Were Destroyed Multiple Times Minato Was The Only One Who Didn't Receive Any Fatal Damage.
 

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Finally, with SM, Hashirama easily reacts to Minato seeing as how Madara reacted to Tobirama with Hashirama's Sage Mode.

Nonsense. Minato's jutsu, and shunshin are superior to Tobirama by far. Also, that same madara fodderstompped Hashirama low-difficult why he did not do a thing to save himself? Lol

Not to mention the whole SM thing is Hashirama's fanboys fan-fiction when it was never even implied
in the manga that it has anything to do with it. Lol
 
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No, you're saying a retarded thing. Lol
Yes, Minato got his hand cut off against full powered Obito. Tobirama got half os his body destroyed by a weaker one.
Was is Tobirama who saved the entire shinobi world by teleporting outside the barrier, or was it Minato? Lol
Was it Tobirama who used the Rassengan with Naruto to destroy Obito's chakra arms and damage his Gedu-dama or was it Minato?
Was it Tobirama who handled the chakra arms to the SA to pull out the Bijuus, or was it Minato?

Uh, what relevance does this stuff hold here? I can bring up irrelevant points too:

Was it Tobirama that lost an arm to Juubito?
Who invented FTG?
Who invented Edo Tensei in the first place which allowed the Hokages to help out in the war in the first place?
Who tagged Juubito 5 times?

What are you trying to prove?
As if the the wooden clones even need that to defeat them. lol
It was even stated in the manga that they are fodder-level. Lol


Doubt Minato will take even a second to destroy those. Just like the fodders in the 3rd War. Lol

Not sure if you can read English properly pal. Madara said the clone was weak because Hashirama was focusing too much power on his real body since he was holding up a chakra taxing barrier.
 

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Nonsense. Minato's jutsu, and shunshin are superior to Tobirama by far. Also, that same madara fodderstompped Hashirama low-difficult why he did not do a thing to save himself? Lol

Not to mention the whole SM thing is Hashirama's fanboys fan-fiction when it was never even implied
in the manga that it has anything to do with it. Lol

Right Lol. I forgot I was arguing with someone that thinks Minato's FTG is faster than Tobirama's FTG
 

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=DemonSenju;18354060]Uh, what relevance does this stuff hold here? I can bring up irrelevant points too:

Was it Tobirama that lost an arm to Juubito?
Who invented FTG?
Who invented Edo Tensei in the first place which allowed the Hokages to help out in the war in the first place?
Who tagged Juubito 5 times?

What are you trying to prove?
It does not have anything to do with the topic. You brought Tobirama up, when we were talking about Minato and Hashi. It was not me who mentioned him.

and I don't know what the whole invention have to do with anything. Needless to say, without that ET the Akatsuki army wouldn't have been nearly as powerful. lol
Not sure if you can read English properly pal. Madara said the clone was weak because Hashirama was focusing too much power on his real body since he was holding up a chakra taxing barrier.
And that's what will happen in the scenario you created if he used a lot of clones as well. What's your point?
Needless to say, the more clones he make the weaker he and his clones will get. Simple math. Lol
 
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Right Lol. I forgot I was arguing with someone that thinks Minato's FTG is faster than Tobirama's FTG

Lol, just because you are being delusional, does not change from the fact a thing my dear. Minato's jutsu is A-Rank jutsu. Tobirama's jutsu is B-Rank jutsu. Also, Tobirama used his shunshin after the teleportation, which allowed Madara to dodge.

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体術

taijutsu (body techniques)

飛雷神斬り 

Hiraishin-giri (Flying Thunder God Slash)

使用者 千手扉間

User: Senju Tobirama

飛雷神を使った時???相手の????

With the space-time travelling used through Hiraishin, one can attack from the enemy's blind spot

フッ

*pop*

虚をつき空より出ずる背水の刃!!

A blade to the back from thin air when the enemy is distracted!!

”飛雷神の術”を利用したバリエーション術の一つ。時空間移動で相手の死角に回り、目にも止まら ぬ速さで急 所を一突きする。木ノ葉隠れ創設前、二代目火影はこの術を用いてマダラの弟、イズナを倒した。 なかなかスキ を見せない強敵が相手であっても、大きな効果を持つ一撃だ。

One of the variant techniques using the Hiraishin technique. The user uses spacetime teleportation to get into the enemy’s blind spot and then, so fast that they don’t notice, stabs them in the vitals. Before the founding of Konohagakure, the second hokage used this technique to defeat Izuna, younger brother of Madara. Even against a powerful enemy on their guard, this blow has a powerful effect.

そして背後から一撃!手の内を知らなければ、およそ避けることかなわぬ瞬速の不意打ち!!

Then a single blow from behind! An instantaneous surprise attack that’s impossible to avoid if you don’t know it’s coming!!

サッ

As you can see "B-rank"

Minato's jutsu

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Hiraishin Ni no Dan / Flying Thunder God Level 2
Ninjutsu, A-rank, Offensive, Close-range
User: Namikaze Minato

Transcending time and space to reflect light is a single gallant Flash!

A technique that applies the “Hiraishin no Jutsu (Flying Thunder God Technique)”. In the moment of charging into the face of the opponent, throw a kunai and with that, CHARGE. Teleport to the location of the kunai that has flown to the opponent’s back, to vanish instantly from the opponent’s eyes and take their rear. The sudden disappearance of the enemy (yourself, the user), in addition to receiving an unexpected attack, will cause the opponent great confusion, a two-stage attack. It is an evolved variation of space-time ninjutsu!!

(Minato vs The Masked Man)
Instantly deliver (lit. rotate, spin) a flash of “Rasengan” to the rear! The opponent that has suffered an embarrassing defeat can only bow down to the ground!!



Minato's shunshin is WAY superior to ALL the Hokages.

Also, can you bring the scan where it was stated that Madara dodge Tobirama's attack because of Hashirama's SM? Lol
 
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Funny. Your argument is Minato will use RDS on every one of Hashirama's clones until the real one is caught, and you say I have no counter Lol

Minato can't even make that many clones , so your premise goes downhill from there. On top of that, the more times Minato uses RDS on a clone, the weaker he'll get since he seals pieces of himself into the death God.

Secondly, Hashirama won't be standing still the whole time. A clone sets up FTW, which puts Minato to sleep while "he tries to use RDS on all of Hashirama's clones"

Finally, with SM, Hashirama easily reacts to Minato seeing as how Madara reacted to Tobirama with Hashirama's Sage Mode.

Like I said, Hashirama stomps
Ftw is fodder. Bunta water canon destroy that rubbish. Yatai kuzushi destroy it. Minato summon gama sennin and use senpo goemon to melt burn it down. Or minato just shunshin no jitsi from area and wait for pollen to be clear.

Sm madara > sm hashirama. Do not be comparing. No eye madara blitz sm naruto. So you obviosuly can see difference in madara power. Even with not sm, he superior to sm user.

Minato ftg wipe out numbers, so not matter how many clone hashirama make. Only take minato a second to wipe out 50. Base hashriama clones cannot periceive to react to ftg blitz. Real hashirama will not stand close to ftg kunai either, he too smart for that. Minato will of course also notice that real hashriama will be distant from the momuton bunshin.

Only 1 minato need use of shiki fuin. The shiki fuin god hand will tear through multiple of clones rapidly. As soon as it touch a mokuton bunshin, it will destory that clone, so the hand keep tearing through clones. And hashriama clines cannot do single thing, because of it invisibility. Minato use of kage bunshin also, just make process faster and easier.

Buffoon. Minato can make 100 clone if needed to be. Tajuu kage bunshin depend on chakra. Minato have enormous chakra. any fodder able to make 20 clone, like this guy -
it nothing special.

kakashi have rubbish chakra, but he make this number of clone even after long tiresome battle -
if kakashi make that many, then minato can make of double that number at least. so hush up and read manga more. because you know nothing of kage bunshin.
 
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Why is shunshin even mentioned here?
Minato can't even counter FTW?
Nor is he landing a single blow on hashirama when his mokutons comfortably tank everything minato dishes out
 

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It does not have anything to do with the topic. You brought Tobirama up, when we were talking about Minato and Hashi. It was not me who mentioned him.

Tobirama was brought up because you back up your claims about how a Base Minato will perform against Hashirama from Edo BM Minato's performance during the war, which is in itself retarded.
And that's what will happen in the scenario you created if he used a lot of clones as well. What's your point?
Needless to say, the more clones he make the weaker he and his clones will get. Simple math. Lol

Uh no, I said that to humor that clown that says Minato and his shadow clones would use RDS on Hashirama and all of his clowns Lol which is a pretty retarded argument.

Minato can only make 3 shadow clones at most and still fight efficiently. So a lot of clones are not needed from Hashirama's part.
 

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Why is shunshin even mentioned here?
Minato can't even counter FTW?
Nor is he landing a single blow on hashirama when his mokutons comfortably tank everything minato dishes out

Minato has Fire and wind jutsu. He can cut the woods without arms. He has Kunais all over the place from his previous battles.
He can summon the frogs if needed.

- So Minato who is in a completely different universe it term of speed is not landing a single hit. But Hashirams whose speed is as a snail
compare to Minato will? Lol

His wood tank anything? Yeah, sure. Tell that to the Tree. XD
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[=DemonSenju;18354105]Tobirama was brought up because you back up your claims about how a Base Minato will perform against Hashirama from Edo BM Minato's performance during the war, which is in itself retarded.
Which means you are the one who brought him up, not me. Therefore, you can't blame me for something YOU did.
Actually, Minato even preformed in the 3rd War better than Hashirama did in the first War as Hashirama got killed.
Uh no, I said that to humor that clown that says Minato and his shadow clones would use RDS on Hashirama and all of his clowns Lol which is a pretty retarded argument.

hmm, ok.

Minato can only make 3 shadow clones at most and still fight efficiently. So a lot of clones are not needed from Hashirama's part.
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So that fodder can use 20 clones, and Minato can only use 3? XD
Heck, even Hiruen in his worst days used 2 and soloed the Senju bros. XD
 

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Ftw is fodder. Bunta water canon destroy that rubbish. Yatai kuzushi destroy it. Minato summon gama sennin and use senpo goemon to melt burn it down. Or minato just shunshin no jitsi from area and wait for pollen to be clear.

Sm madara > sm hashirama. Do not be comparing. No eye madara blitz sm naruto. So you obviosuly can see difference in madara power. Even with not sm, he superior to sm user.

Minato ftg wipe out numbers, so not matter how many clone hashirama make. Only take minato a second to wipe out 50. Base hashriama clones cannot periceive to react to ftg blitz. Real hashirama will not stand close to ftg kunai either, he too smart for that. Minato will of course also notice that real hashriama will be distant from the momuton bunshin.

Only 1 minato need use of shiki fuin. The shiki fuin god hand will tear through multiple of clones rapidly. As soon as it touch a mokuton bunshin, it will destory that clone, so the hand keep tearing through clones. And hashriama clines cannot do single thing, because of it invisibility. Minato use of kage bunshin also, just make process faster and easier.

Buffoon. Minato can make 100 clone if needed to be. Tajuu kage bunshin depend on chakra. Minato have enormous chakra. any fodder able to make 20 clone, like this guy -
it nothing special.

kakashi have rubbish chakra, but he make this number of clone even after long tiresome battle -
if kakashi make that many, then minato can make of double that number at least. so hush up and read manga more. because you know nothing of kage bunshin.

Lol the fail in this post. Base Minato can make 100 clones? Wtf?
 

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btw ツDemonSenju

You still did not bring the manga scan where it was stated (or even implied) that Madara dodge Tobirama's attack because of SM. Lol
it would be nice if you can bring it. Lol
 

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Which means you are the one who brought him up, not me. Therefore, you can't blame me for something YOU did.
Actually, Minato even preformed in the 3rd War better than Hashirama did in the first War as Hashirama got killed.

I'm not blaming you for something I did. I'm telling you bringing up highlights from Edo BM Minato's performance in the war arc to a vs matchup between Alive Minato vs Hashirama is retarded. I brought up Tobirama to show you how retarded it was.


So that fodder can use 20 clones, and Minato can only use 3? XD
Heck, even Hiruen in his worst days used 2 and soloed the Senju bros. XD

Read before you type. I said Minato can only use 3 clones and still fight efficiently.

-The more shadow clones one makes the weaker those clones are.

-The shinobi from the stone village had all of his shadow clones negged by a Kid Kakashi with an imperfect Chidori.

So yes. Anymore than 3 clones will hardly be a threat at allm
 

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=DemonSenju;18354153]I'm not blaming you for something I did. I'm telling you bringing up highlights from Edo BM Minato's performance in the war arc to a vs matchup between Alive Minato vs Hashirama is retarded. I brought up Tobirama to show you how retarded it was.

Oh well. As you which. Even though your example does not stand, but whatever.
Read before you type. I said Minato can only use 3 clones and still fight efficiently.

-The more shadow clones one makes the weaker those clones are.

-The shinobi from the stone village had all of his shadow clones negged by a Kid Kakashi with an imperfect Chidori.

So yes. Anymore than 3 clones will hardly be a threat at allm

Although I do not see why would that be, or from where you came up with that number, but whatever. O_O

Anyway, I am asking again for the manga scan that stated It was because of Hashirama's SM that Madara dodge Tobirama's attack, if you may...
 

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btw ツDemonSenju

You still did not bring the manga scan where it was stated (or even implied) that Madara dodge Tobirama's attack because of SM. Lol
it would be nice if you can bring it. Lol

It should be common sense.

>Kabuto's SM increased his reflexes and reaction
>Naruto's SM increased his reflexes and reaction

Why would Hashirama's SM be any different? It's not. Madara with Hashirama's SM reacted to FTG.

Are you one of those people that need to see something in the manga for it to be true even if it's common sense?

>BM Minato never used FTG with his avatar
>BM Minato never used a TBB barrage

So let's not go full retard here. It's common sense.
 
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