Minato can't aim to suck something up that he can't see, nor can he suck anything up the barrier can't physically touch, like pollen. Then there's the fact that the user can control where the pollen goes, so he can maneuver it around the barrier. Space Time Barrier isn't a vacuum, so if you have that idea, get it out of your head now.
* Pollen not invisible, can be clearly seen.
* anything that come near barrier will pass through it. It called rip in time and space, why would pollen not go through it.
* no matter where hashirama control pollen, barrier bigger than even juubi dama. Hashiram not control pollen to go round barrier of such magnitude. What joke, manouvre pollen around giganitve invisble barrier, lol.
* databook say it "suck in". So be quiet. It create time-space rip in air, it no different to black hole. Of course pollen get suck in.
Minato has to summon it first, and it has to be able to jump high enough to target the flower, and it actually has to be strong enough to destroy said flower.
1. Kajukai Korin, hell, any Mokuton>>>>>Regular forest.
2. Teppodama has no feat that'd let me say it can destroy the flowers all at once.
3. Gamabunta won't be able to get in the air if Hashirama binds him with Mokuton.
4. Minato won't be able to do this shit before he gets knocked out cold. Not when Mei couldn't even use a jutsu before falling unconscious
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* minato cross konoha from statue head, perform kushiyose before kurama even move. All in instant.
* not need to destroy all flowers at once, it strong enough to tear trhough forest and match bijuu power, so it strong enough to destroy simple flowers. Flower petals have no durability feats, so dont try say they super durable as well, they just flower
* bunta rapid fire shoot and target all the flowers so all get of destroyed easy
* lol, you think mokuton fast enough to bind bunta before to jump Lol. Ok then, if he get bind, minato throw kunai high to air and telport he and bunta to sky. No bind can of hold minato.
* nefore battle start, minato will have set up plenty marking anyway, kage bunshin will have of set marking in the distance as well, so plenty distance minato to teleport to.
* hashirama mokuton strength vary of between jutsu. Mokujin strength>mokuryu>jukai kouton>Kajukai. Kajukai no stronger than god tree. Suiton canons destroy simple contruct like that
No feat from Minato lets me say that he can Shunshin away from the whole forest before it puts him to sleep. Get the feats please.
Get the feats please.
* no feat, read damn manga. Are you dumb?
* shunshin from under kurama claw, all the way to distant cliff
* shunshin from hokage statue to outskirt of village above kurama.
* first arrival on battlefiled, whole chapter before other hokage, using just shunshin. First go to ocean to mark kunai, then shunshin battlefied, mark 4 kunai around juubi, then to teleport juubi dama to ocean, then to wait for explosion to cease, then to converse naruto and sakura - all before former fastest man of his time arrives.
* Lol, it pitiful how bad you underestimate of minatos shunshin, his shunshin better than all without rikudo power (fastest shinobi).
* slow pollen will never catch him. Anyone who think this is fool. Distance minato cross to get to konoha, bigger than small forest that hashriama can make.
Dropping a toad on a flower of
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size isn't going to destroy it. Nor can Minato target all the flowers with Food Card Destroyer at once, so one gets hit, and the pollen for the rest knocks him and Gamabunta out cold.
Not only does it not have enough range to destroy all the flowers at once, Minato has to summon Ma and Pa first, and he can't do that shit before he gets knocked out. Are you even thinking before you list these counters? Jesus Christ.
When you have scans of Bunta being able to leap out of a regular forest let alone
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, then we can talk.
Stop wanking Minato and get feats. Lol.
Flowers are not bigger than bunta, so each get crush. Once bunta leap in air, minato can throw kuani ontop each bud. Then teleport bunta directly above each to squash them. They justflower petal they get crush, just cuz name is hashirama, not mean he invincible. Yes a toad will crush hem. If gamahiro can to crush giant snake, then of course it can crush flower.. And teppodama crush each from sky anyway, the flower not durable like the branch, so it fine. Not arguing on this anymore, teppodama stalmate with blast from bijuu, it easy destory simple flower, especially when it shot from sky, grabity increasing it power. Databook also say user can concentrate more chakra to teppodama to increase it power. Toad use senjutsu yes, so it has even too much power for simple flower.
You need to stip wanking, but of course you can never admit anything, you can never be wrong, because you are kid gamer.. Please, you always wrong 90% time bit your ego larfer than your mind.
Gamabunta dwarfs forests you fool -
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Bogard alreasdy show you gamakichi who leap dwarf juubi. You u derestimate toad, just like you underestimate everything that not hashirama , lord have mercy. Simple minded so bad.
Leaping isn't working because of the sheer fact that Minato can't summon Bunta and leap away before being knocked out, nor can Bunta leap out of the forest completely. He comes back down and falls asleep. Distance marking? That's a bad idea. If he teleports away from the battlefield, he'll have to come back to a marking on the battlefield, which is covered by the forest. Nothing gained from that. Not to mention Mokuton can be used to shift his marking, close to one area, further dumping on this strategy.
They are all connected together and they are connected with the ground. No proof Minato can teleport them.
Minato summon bunta and cross konoha sp fast nefore kurama tailed beast bomb even expand any further. Minato has both feat and speed do accomplish feat even easier like escaping flowers. -
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See where minato was before. See how quick ge get to kurama. Kushiyose yatai... Is long range jutsu, user can summon toad far away if want to. And minato show his speed, how far distance he can be reaching in second. Entire debate on monato escaping ftw is foolish, becuase minato already show feat much greater than what you try to say will catch minato.
Minato plan to teleport god tree stalk out of barrier, so yes minato can do it. God tree > hashirama simple constructs. No matter if connected to ground, again underestemiate minato. -
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Not enough for you simplminded self. Here another one -
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Minato just inch from getting crush by kurama, shunshin to far away mountain cliff over there in mere second. Make that 2 second and minato double that range. Yet you think minato will take 10 years to walk away from slowpoke pollen. Such disgusting underestimation of speed. Why people downrate minato best trait in vs thread? Why? Because scared mo attack can hit him? You even pathetically say wood bind hold his summon, as if he not capable of simple teleportaon out of all bind. Minato teleoort out of god tree, yet you think hashirama wood pose any threat to minat, when he have both hiraishin and super shunshin speed, you crazy .
Lol, are you stupid? Kakashi made 50 clones with low chakra, and guess what? They couldn't do shit but intimidate the foe. If Kakashi has low chakra and he splits it between 50 clones, then his 50 clones are OBVIOUSLY going to have less chakra than he does, and he already had low chakra. How in the hell is that "suitable for combat" Minato can make 100 clones, but if he does, they'll all be fodder.
Part 1 Naruto's clones are fodder and they didn't even use jutsu as complicated as Minato's Ninjutsu, I suggest you stop using shitty examples. Naruto spammed clones against Sasuke, who was on his level, and look where that always got him....oh wait, nowhere. Lol. Using a shitload of clones splits your chakra, and if you split your chakra too much, you end up splitting your power.
Are you stupid. My point is kakashi who just finish fight with zabuza, who just use raikiri, who just spam sharignan all day, still able to create sooooooooo many kage bunshin. And kakashi have poor chakra, he say it himself. So explain to me why a minato with full chakra cannot use 100 clone or more. Easy, you cant explain, nothing to explain, common sense. Of course kakashi clone could not do anything, he was tire and deplete all his chakra.. Am i talking of a tire depleted minato trying to use tajuu kage bunshin? No you stupid imbecile. A 100% minato finely can manga 100 kage bunshin and they can all spam jitsu.
Part 1 naruto fodder, part 1 sasuke genius. Of course he lose. Minato clones use hiraishin, hiriashin take like zero chakra. Ai dint even care about how minato use tajuu kage bunshin. My point is he can make 100 clones and more if he want, and not suffer consequences, because kakashi do it with no chakra. Yes kage bunchin split chakra, that fine for minato, he have enormous chakra - manga fact. So not a problem. Minato tajiu kage bunshin spamming d rank shunshin no jutsu, and simple hiraishin is of no problem. And shiki fuin can be spammed with of kage bunshin because minato will not care of consequesnce becsuse shiki kill you anyway. Shiki fuin only require sacrifce, big chakra not require, because minato have no chakra left when he use that jutsu and still do it. Hiruzen also ahve no chakra left yet spam it 3 times.
No, I just like to use common sense instead of licking an image of a fictional character. Whether or not he starts with the death reaper or not doesn't change my argument in the slightest. If there is a chance Minato can take him on (which he won't know for sure until he tries) he isn't going to kill himself. Has Minato EVER started any match with a suicide move? You're being as idiotic as the morons who think Gai starts out with the Eighth Gate, if there are even any people that stupid. Lol
Show me when ANY fighter has started a fight with a suicide tech? Gai was up against JJ Madara and he even started off with the 7th Gate, not the 8th. Stop being dumb, for the love of god.
Also, putting Eighth Gate Gai in the top 10 means I'm ranking him when he's in the Eighth Gate, has nothing to do with him starting in said mode.
Has minato ever start match with sucide move? Tell me how many fight you see minato in. What kind of stupid retard wuestion is that. Every oppoenent minato face alive, he knew he could beat and he embarrass them. So of course he not use shiki fuin.
Anko start fight with suicde technique -
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there your example. Good day sir
If shinobi want start battle with suicide, then they can, you no make the rules, so stop trying to define what can and cannot be done. This all fictional, so you have no authority.
You just say it depend on opponent. If minato know he face god of shinobi then sure why not he use suicdd technique. I see so many of dirty hypocrite say in gai thread "8 gate one shot". So i do the same thing here, and there not a thing you can say about it. Did you not just say all this fincitonal? So you cannot prove anything of what a character will do. people say 8 gate one shot, so shiki fuin one shot as well. You list him top 10, but leave shiki fuin users out way below. Despite fact that shki fuin no different from 8 gate. Except shiki fuin just as desdly because it invisible, and can be use by kage bunshin. How many non rikudo character defend from that? Literally none, no matter what excuse you try make up. If i say minato use shiki fuin, what you gonna do? Everything here hyphthetical, so shut your mouth and dont dare tell me of what i can and cant say in vs thread. If minato want to one shot, then he can one shot. If he opponeent too strong, then he resort to shiki fuin and solo. Simple. You say you rank gai base on which mode he start, bet you dont do same for shiki fuuin users
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