[Discussion] Minato sage mode explained

[DaVe14]

It shouldn't be hard for Kishimoto to connect the dots on how Minato was able to learn and use Sage Mode, he was one of Jiraiya's pupils. And it made sense that he did use Senjutsu CAUSE THE ONLY WAY HIS RASENGAN WOULD OF HAD ANY EFFECT IF HE DID LAND IT ON MADARA WAS THE FACT IT A SENJUTSU TECHNIQUE; OTHERWISE HIS CHAKRA FROM THE RASENGAN WOULD OF BEEN ABSORBED. That's exactly what Naruto had to do land his Rasengan on Juubito, he had to go into Sage Mode and his his senjutsu Rasengan cause all his other technique were being absorbed.

Yes it would of been nice to have an explanation on how Minato got Sage Mode but come now people Kishimoto is human he's not perfect. Use common sense people before you start brashing this man on how he goes about writing this manga.

 

[Fair Warning]

minato sage mode doesnt make sense,


it will be revealed in two chapters

 

[Hokage Minato]

I saw lot of ppl accepting this sage minato like as if it was long time coming or something, which is wrong.


If he could do it himself, he wouldn't have asked Naruto to inject his rasengan with sage chakra against jubito. And before anyone says mianto couldn't do it because the yin fox wouldn't allow it, remember when the Yin fox wanted to help Naruto by helping minato. THIS is fact.

And he didn't use it when he faught tobi which killed himself and kushina and almost Naruto. If had it at all he would have used everything he's got to save kushina and Naruto not to mention himself.

So this is either chakra still injected by Naruto or an aspull by kishi which lowers the manga's standards a lot.

Also this foreshadow stuff from Naruto vs nagato is misunderstood.

Naruto did a fast attack with a rasengan while in sage mode and destroyed one of the pain bodies.

The sage mode was tribute to jiraiya and his timing/speed with the rasengan was a tribute to minato.

Pa frog MADE NO mention of minato when Naruto trained only talked about how well jiraiya managed to do with toad sage mode.

i think he knew sage mode but he couldnt use sage mode while having kurama sealed inside him, once the 9tails was taken out he was able to use it again!

 

[minatouzumaki17]

Reason why Pa only mentioned Jiraiya and Naruto is because theyre the only ones he taught.
Minato didnt have to learn from Pa because he had Jiraiya to teach him. So Pa wouldnt know if he'd Sage mode or not

Minato speaks very formal and since he learned it from Jiraiya he calls it Jiraiya's Senjutsu
Pa did mention you have to have an enormous amount of chakra to use sage mode which evidence points to him having.

 

[neowisdom]

alive Minato cannot go sage mode nor did he have it. He didn't use it ever. alive Minato couldn't go KCM either.

Edo Minato can go sage mode because his body can handle it now. Living Minato's body couldn't handle sage mode (like Orochimaru)

Living Minato probably trained and attempted to use sage mode with Jiraiya , but he couldn't do it.
He remembered the teachings and now he has a body strong enough to handle it (an edo body) so now he can do it.

Maybe the reason Minato never used Sage mode was because it requires him to stay still so if someone attacked him out of nowhere it would be difficult to use Sage mode. Not sure if Minato ever used Shadow Clones to gather Sage chakra like Naruto. What gave you the idea that alive Minato could not go KCM? Minato has the Yin half of Kurama, the nice one, who is willing to fight alongside Minato and lend him his chakra.

What do you mean Edo Minato can go Sage mode because his body can handle it now? Isn't Sage mode all about controlling Sage chakra in order to not turn into a toad? Why would Minato need a strong body to use Sage mode? All Minato needs is good control of Sage chakra to use sage mode, not a strong body.

 

[psukkar]

Pa frog can say the 4th hokage also used sage mode without saying the minato is Naruto is his father.

sorry this I hope is still some left previous sage chakra from Naruto in the previous chapters.

 

[Gold Lightning]

What doesn't make any sense is why on earth would kishi reveal Minatos sage mode now and not have him do anything with it. Instead Minato loses another arm(now he may not be able to perform any jutsu).

First kishi didn't reveal Minatos Spiralling round dance howl (whatever it's called) jutsu. And now kishi doesn't show what Minatos sage mode is capable of.

I don't like the way kishi is writing Minato lately, kishi must not be done with Minato yet (why else would he still keep him alive and take out the first two Hokage?). Minatos abilities are still a mystery to us and kishi refuses to reveal his other techniques.

 

[Draxus]

What doesn't make any sense is why on earth would kishi reveal Minatos sage mode now and not have him do anything with it. Instead Minato loses another arm(now he may not be able to perform any jutsu).

First kishi didn't reveal Minatos Spiralling round dance howl (whatever it's called) jutsu. And now kishi doesn't show what Minatos sage mode is capable of.

I don't like the way kishi is writing Minato lately, kishi must not be done with Minato yet (why else would he still keep him alive and take out the first two Hokage?). Minatos abilities are still a mystery to us and kishi refuses to reveal his other techniques.

Kishi did this so he could have a logical reason for Minato to attack Madara. If Minato doesn't attack Madara, he and Kakashi are still in play. It would be even worse writting to have someone as smart as Minato attack an opponent he knows he can't possible damage.

Kishi wanted a one-on-one with Madara and Obito. Giving Minato senjutsu was a convenient way to accomplish this.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Kishi did this so he could have a logical reason for Minato to attack Madara. If Minato doesn't attack Madara, he and Kakashi are still in play. It would be even worse writting to have someone as smart as Minato attack an opponent he knows he can't possible damage.

Kishi wanted a one-on-one with Madara and Obito. Giving Minato senjutsu was a convenient way to accomplish this.

Makes sense, however it still doesn't make sense why kishi isn't revealing anymore of Minatos techniques. It's just been rasengan and FTG, we know he has more and that he has an elemental nature. Kishi showed Minato attempting an unknown jutsu with a long ass name twice but failing on both occasions. What is the point of even writing that?

Fair enough that he got 2 bass transformations but with no jutsu to go with them. Kishi showed pretty much 90% of Hashirama's arsenal (in his Hashirama vs Madara flash back), we've seen pretty much all Tobiramas jutsu, plus the other cool water techniques we saw in part 1. Hiruzen got the amazing 5 elemental jutsu yet Minato has shown no new jutsu.

 

[Meowazziel]

-___- Guys, it's been speculated a long time ago Minato could enter Sage mode.

The reason this wasn't mention was due to the fact Naruto hadn't learned who his father was. However Minato, was a pupil of Jiraya's long before Naruto. Minato was able to master Sage Mode, as well. Although he may have not used it during his fight with Obito, during the Nine Tails attack. The fact of the matter is you have to be standing completely still in order to enter Sage mode, this couldn't possibly have happened when he fought Obito due to Minato having to keep the nine-tails sealed, protect Naruto and Kushina, while at the same time prevent Obito from taking contol of the nine-tails. Unfortunatley for him he failed, so sealing the Yin half of Kuruma within him. He sealed himself within the Shingami, where I'm assuming he obtained control of the Yin half of Kuruma's chakra. considering his soul was sealed for 16+ years.

So, I say it's plausible for Minato to have enter Sage Mode as he did, and when he did considering he didn't have Yin Kuruma's chakra to rely on anymore.

It is indeed possible. Some people just dont want to have an open mind to see that it is possible that it is not an asspull or plot hole no jutsu.

 

[psukkar]

Kishi did this so he could have a logical reason for Minato to attack Madara. If Minato doesn't attack Madara, he and Kakashi are still in play. It would be even worse writting to have someone as smart as Minato attack an opponent he knows he can't possible damage.

Kishi wanted a one-on-one with Madara and Obito. Giving Minato senjutsu was a convenient way to accomplish this.

it wouldn't be silly writing to show how desperate the situation is with madara the way he is.

That's called drama not silly writing.