Minato not being good in SM is an understatement, as said by Minato himself!

[Specific]

He hasn't used it much. Meaning he has used it in real combat. Meaning there's no "he can't use it in combat." The only debatable piece of information is how long it lasts.

He never used it vs Ay and bee.
He never used it vs Tobi
he never used it vs the kyuubi.
He never used it vs Juubito (only sage mode works on him yet he didn't use it)

Only time he used it was when he only had one arm and that was out of desperation. He cannot use it in a fight, that is all.

 

[Valhorus]

Do people even know what the word understatement means?


Kakashi said that Senjutsu isn't Minato isn't his forte, but even saying that is an understatement by Minato's own admission.

Minato: I suck at SM.

Minato fanboy: Minato is actually pretty decent with SM.

lol you couldn't make this stuff up.

Dude there are a lot other meaning that u didnt post about that word

 

[Valhorus]

He never used it vs Ay and bee.
He never used it vs Tobi
he never used it vs the kyuubi.
He never used it vs Juubito (only sage mode works on him yet he didn't use it)

Only time he used it was when he was only had one arm and that was out of desperation. He cannot use it in a fight, that is all.

That doesnt proove he didnt used in real combat dude . He didnt have the time to use in any of these battler . Against Juubito Naruto and Sasuke was the ones who defeated while the whole SA Watching.

 

[Joker]

Prestonyoko is about to post, this is going to get EXTREMELY interesting. Not to mention all of the biggest Minato fans are already engaging Specific.
I still think he's bad at it, otherwise he would've used it against Obito, since you people claim he can enter "instantly" v_v

 

[Sennin of Logic]

He never used it vs Ay and bee.
He never used it vs Tobi
he never used it vs the kyuubi.
He never used it vs Juubito (only sage mode works on him yet he didn't use it)

Only time he used it was when he was only had one arm and that was out of desperation. He cannot use it in a fight, that is all.

1. He didn't need it since he crapped on them.

2. Tobi showed he could follow Minato's FTG via kamui, not giving him enough time to enter it, whereas a nontelerpoter wouldn't be able to stop him if he set up distant kunai.

3. If he was a second later, He would have TBB'd Hiruzen and the village.

4. Because he thought being a second 9 tails as support would be more useful in that situation.

 

[Joker]

1. He didn't need it since he crapped on them.

2. Tobi showed he could follow Minato's FTG via kamui, not giving him enough time to enter it, whereas a nontelerpoter wouldn't be able to stop him if he set up distant kunai.

3. If he was a second later, He would have TBB'd Hiruzen and the village.

4. Because he thought being a second 9 tails as support would be more useful in that situation.

@Bold, didn't he say that Tobi's ST Ninjutsu exceeded his and Tobirama's...? Is that not a big threat to the ninja world..? I mean you can't sit here and say, he didn't admit that Tobi would be troublesome.

 

[Specific]

1. He didn't need it since he crapped on them.

2. Tobi showed he could follow Minato's FTG via kamui, not giving him enough time to enter it, whereas a nontelerpoter wouldn't be able to stop him if he set up distant kunai.

3. If he was a second later, He would have TBB'd Hiruzen and the village.

4. Because he thought being a second 9 tails as support would be more useful in that situation.

Speculation will not help your argument, unfortunately.

Minato bluntly and obviously specified that his Sage mode is "terrible" and that it takes too long to knead chakra necessary for a fight thus why he never uses it in a battle.

it's not that hard to grasp, all you have to do is read it over again.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

@Bold, didn't he say that Tobi's ST Ninjutsu exceeded his and Tobirama's...? Is that not a big threat to the ninja world..? I mean you can't sit here and say, he didn't admit that Tobi would be troublesome.

Read what I said closely. 1. did not deal with Tobi, but Ay and Bee. 2. dealt with why he didn't use it against Tobi.

 

[Touken]

7 pages? Of trying to defend what the character himself said?

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Speculation will not help your argument, unfortunately.

Minato bluntly and obviously specified that his Sage mode is "terrible" and that it takes too long to knead chakra necessary for a fight thus why he never uses it in a battle.

it's not that hard to grasp, all you have to do is read it over again.

Speculation. Ha, no, it's logical answers to your questions, but you don't want answers, you want helplessness. You want to believe you're right, but you're not.


Manga fact, he's used it in fights. Anything you post is irrelevant.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Prestonyoko is about to post, this is going to get EXTREMELY interesting. Not to mention all of the biggest Minato fans are already engaging Specific.
I still think he's bad at it, otherwise he would've used it against Obito, since you people claim he can enter "instantly" v_v

It's just what the scans show that is confusing. Manga fact is that you need to be still yet:

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You can clearly see that Minato throws a kunai and he does that before he is in sage mode. How do I know it was before, because you see the SHH SHH effects which represent the markings appearing around Minato's eyes. And look at the motion lines, it shows Minato moving while he does that, and Minato throwing the kunai also involves movement.

Meaning Minato had to have gathered senjutsu in that small time frame it took Gaara to construct his sand wall. What other explanation is there? In fact, looking at the scan again, we see in the next panel the motion lines of Gaara's sand rising, meaning Minato went into SM before the sand rose, and threw his kunai past it before the sand blocked the kunai's path.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

7 pages? Of trying to defend what the character himself said?

Read more closely. Nobody's saying he's good at it, just that he can use it, and it's a manga fact that he can and only idiots deny this.

 

[MinaButt]

7 pages? Of trying to defend what the character himself said?

This thread needs to be closed :eww:

 

[Specific]

Speculation. Ha, no, it's logical answers to your questions, but you don't want answers, you want helplessness. You want to believe you're right, but you're not.


Manga fact, he's used it in fights. Anything you post is irrelevant.

So you are going to sit there and bluntly avoid what minato said and interpret it how ever you like? You know what they call that? Selective reading. Reading what you want to read, avoiding the rest.

 

[Joker]

It's just what the scans show that is confusing. Manga fact is that you need to be still yet:

You must be registered for see images

You can clearly see that Minato throws a kunai and he does that before he is in sage mode. How do I know it was before, because you see the SHH SHH effects which represent the markings appearing around Minato's eyes. And look at the motion lines, it shows Minato moving while he does that, and Minato throwing the kunai also involves movement.

Meaning Minato had to have gathered senjutsu in that small time frame it took Gaara to construct his sand wall. What other explanation is there?

Maybe the fact that he was gathering Senjutsu the whole time, and it was just now ready, so he engaged Madara..?

 

[Valhorus]

@Bold, didn't he say that Tobi's ST Ninjutsu exceeded his and Tobirama's...? Is that not a big threat to the ninja world..? I mean you can't sit here and say, he didn't admit that Tobi would be troublesome.

And Still he defetead him so i dont see what u wanted to point with this.

 

[blazekev90]

I don't know why people entertain such threads, especially after questioning its purpose to begin with. If you think it's a trash thread why contribute to it? I can't believed this reached 7+ pages. OP is surely good at what he does.

Kudos for making ppl look foolish.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

So you are going to sit there and bluntly avoid what minato said and interpret it how ever you like? You know what they call that? Selective reading. Reading what you want to read, avoiding the rest.

You're the one that's selective.


What Minato said was "I'm not good at senjutsu, it takes to long to enter it and it doesn't last long, and besides, I haven't used it much in real combat." Without disregarding part of his statement like you do, this means that Minato can enter SM in battle and can use it, but it won't last long. That's a fact. One you're desperately trying to deny because you don't want anything useful in Minato's arsenal.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Maybe the fact that he was gathering Senjutsu the whole time, and it was just now ready, so he engaged Madara..?

But he moved when he threw the kunai is my point, unless Minato got someone else to throw it, then there is no way he should have entered sage mode.

 

[Valhorus]

Maybe the fact that he was gathering Senjutsu the whole time, and it was just now ready, so he engaged Madara..?

Manga fact is if u move a bit u lose the senjutsu chakra u gathered in that time....yet he still threw a kunai before entering in SM.

We are not saying he is good at using it we are just saying he can use it in battle not like some haters just saying that he sucks and cant use it in combat.