how do you know that ? susanoo is a manifestation of itachi's chakra, it's like saying minato can teleport kakashi while using raikiri without the raikiri but ok, even if he can itachi can reactivate susanoo instantly like in his fight with sasuke
Minato Namikaze vs EMS Itachi Uchiha
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So dumb, LOL. Put the whole scan instead of half of one. When he said one had strong chakra and genes, he was referring to INDRA, not Ashura. Indra is the ancestor of the Uchiha. As for the stamina? That's sick Itachi, not a healthy one. The databook is flawed as well, but if you want to use it, fine. In it, Itachi has a higher databook score than Minato. Therefore, he wins!
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EMS Madara(manga)>>>>>>>>>>>EMS Itachi(Fanfic Manga)
Feats - yes------------------------------Feats - No
I just can't Imagine Ems Itachi's Feats.........TBH this entire thread has a fanfic comments excluding some
If you check my posts till now in this thread,I haven't said my opinion of who wins,Because EMS Itachi never existed
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Well I know it cuz i read up the manga . Gaara throwed Madara the susanno didn't followed him . Minato saved Sasuke and Naruto from Obito via FTG and susanno didnt follow Sasuke . Itachi will not react that fast to that port and the moment he is ported Minato will get to him
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Hagoromo even said Ashura was the untalented one, the weak one, in the beginning. I DID interprate it correctly. You, however, being a dumb piece of shit, did not.
Did I forget to mention that in the databook Itachi has a perfect 5 in speed? In that case, Minato and Itachi are equals in speed, and therefore Minato's usual advantage in speed is useless (Using your logic now).
Doesn't change the fact that he set on fire a large area with a constant Amaterasu, used Tsukuyomi and Susanoo for a considerable time. No matter of his reserves. Despite of being deadly sick and almost blind. Itachi doesn't have large Chakra reserves? That's true. Doesn't change the fact of what Itachi accomplished. Doesn't change the matter that OP says healthy Itachi. Doesn't change the matter that OP says EMS Itachi.
Shouten Itachi(with no disease and 30% of Itachi's chakra) couldn't use MS technique. Part1 Itachi(when he was at his peak or close to it) had to turn off his Sharingan and rest after Amaterasu. Itachi has been portrayed to have low chakra reserves disease or not and databook confirms it. Kimimaro with a terminal disease still had almost the maximal score in stamina(4.5)
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Muu couldn't use a Jinton technique anymore with 50% of his Chakra, yet he isn't limited to one Jinton technique with 100% of his Chakra. Itachi turned his Sharingan off after he had it activated the whole day, used Tsukuyomi twice and Amaterasu. Resting doesn't mean he reached his Chakra limit. Low Chakra reserves or not, doesn't change what Itachi accomplished with the Chakra he had against Sasuke; spamming MS techniques. And disease puts a great strain to his body and weakens him physically. He could've last longer if healthy.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Of course Itachi hadn't large Chakra reserves, the databook states it. But he still accomplished a lot with the reserves he had, not least because of his Uchiha Chakra.
Mu couldn't use Jinton because of the property of his special clone, not because of his chakra reserve. We've seen Itachi tired after the tsukuyomi against Kakashi, after that they rested somewhere with Kisame observing, then he used tsukuyomi and amaterasu and ended up tired again, to the point of turning off his Sharingan and requesting a rest to Kisame, so no he indeed was close to his limit.
I am not denying he did good with his chakra reserve at all. What i'm saying is that if he already has issues in his chakra reserves while using MS techniques, i don't see him summoning such a monstruous entity of chakra like PS and live, let alone maintain it for long(assuming he has the potential to unlock it, that's it)
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No. It was said that Muu can't use techniques like Jinton as his power is halved. [
And of course, Itachi was tired after using Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu, but that doesn't mean he reached his limit. As Itachi said, there was no reason to hurry, as they were confronted with Naruto's power. That confrontation doesn't speak of what Itachi is capable of, but the fight against Sasuke does, as he truly reached his limits there.
Using MS techniques, the PS included, don't drain the Chakra of the EMS user, that's the advantage of these eyes as well. Nobody would be able to use such a construct of Chakra with his own reserves, when already the normal Susanoo strains your body and drains your Chakra that much. The size doesn't speak of the quality, as the PS is twice as big as 100% Kyuubi. Sasuke with his 3.5 Chakra reserves used a large legged Susanoo easily, while a normal Susnoo strained his body and drained his Chakra strongly.
So I assume that Itachi would at least be able to use a larger construct of Susanoo which is also legged. Not saying it would reach the size of Madara's PS. Chakra drain is, as I said, eliminated.
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] There are no special properties of which you speak.And of course, Itachi was tired after using Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu, but that doesn't mean he reached his limit. As Itachi said, there was no reason to hurry, as they were confronted with Naruto's power. That confrontation doesn't speak of what Itachi is capable of, but the fight against Sasuke does, as he truly reached his limits there.
Using MS techniques, the PS included, don't drain the Chakra of the EMS user, that's the advantage of these eyes as well. Nobody would be able to use such a construct of Chakra with his own reserves, when already the normal Susanoo strains your body and drains your Chakra that much. The size doesn't speak of the quality, as the PS is twice as big as 100% Kyuubi. Sasuke with his 3.5 Chakra reserves used a large legged Susanoo easily, while a normal Susnoo strained his body and drained his Chakra strongly.
So I assume that Itachi would at least be able to use a larger construct of Susanoo which is also legged. Not saying it would reach the size of Madara's PS. Chakra drain is, as I said, eliminated.
none of these are proof since the sand is a physical attack and minato transported the
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but whatever, and no minato can't blitz itachi before he can activate his susanoo back which is instantso let's see how can minato defend himself
-if he looks into itachi's eyes he gets hit by tsukyomi, if he doesn't he can't see amaterasu coming so either way he gets killed
-all his ftg kunais get repelled by
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even than all his attacks get blocked by yata mirror and he becomes an easy target for the totsuka bladesm would be his only hope but he can't use it for long and he has to stay immobile for a relatively long period of time to activate it so that's not gonna happen
stomps ? and my post was fanfiction....
so sick itachi managed to maintain susanoo for 2 or 3 minutes with nearly no chakra left, how much stamina do you think part 1 itachi has ? 3 maybe 3.5 ? sasuke has 3.5 stamina and with ems he used susanoo and amaterasu without complaining so far, you do the math
There was no point in keeping the sharingan active, he wanted to get out of there because he is a konoha spy so he had all the reasons to find an excuse to leave, itachi also said that jiraiya would kill both of them, do you think jirayia>itachi and kisame ? did you see how bad sasuke and itachi looked when they reached their limit with ms ? i'm not saying he was not tired but he definitely didn't look like he was at his limit at all, itachi doesn't even need ps in this fight
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You know what's dumb? You said Itachi has a higher databook score than Minato despite the fact that Minato wasn't given a databook score, meaning your argument is unfounded and fanfic. Also, total points does not make the strongest ninja.
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Yes EMS Itachi is a fanfiction and there isn't a way itachi can win against BM minato,no matter how hard you try unless he becomes a god like madara
@bold - for godsake he is a sensor,that isn't hard to avoid.....EMS madara who became sensor suddenly avoided sasuke attacks and nailed fodders without eyes
Hey...how you put those links in between the sentences.....like on clicking "susanoo too" the stuff like that???
Kabuto said power not chakra. Power can be related to strength, ninjutsu, taijutsu and everything. Obviously if all yours skills are halved, not surprising he won't be capable to use such a complex jutsu like Jinton
As for Itachi, even if he wasn't at his limit, he was close to it because we rarely see Itachi turning off his Sharingan. If he did that there, it shows he was having issues especially since once again, he requested a rest
Using MS techniques do drain the user's chakra. Every techniques does. I don't know where you got it doesn't. Sasuke and Madara are reincarnations of an entity possessing such a powerful chakra it travels through generations and generations. You can't compare them to Itachi
You can be slightly stronger or equal to someone to the point that even with assistance, it would be the same result. Basically Itachi was trying to say that even with Kisame's help, the outcome would be the same because he wouldn't make much of a difference. Kisame was part1 Kakashi's level, a level below Jiraya's
he is not a good sensor at all since tobi sneaked up on him, he surely can't sense amaterasu, explain how is this a stomp
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@Bold - >>>>>>>>>>
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@underline -thanks a bunch man,I gave it a try up there,did it worked
kisame is part 1 kakashi level ? bro are you serious ? kisame is mid kage level, he alone can compete with jiraiya no problem, itachi could have 1 shotted jiraiya with the tsukuyomi he use on sasuke or the amaterasu he used on the wall...you can't be serious if you think kisame is a non factor for jiraiya, also you answered the only off topic thing that i wrote