Minato more talened then Sauske and Itachi

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I disagree. You can say the same for the Uchiha's for Minato who uses FTG each-and-every time in battle. A man consider I genius as well, but has not shown anything besides dodging every attack with his FTG. Strip FTG away and see just how a genius Minato is.

This stupid minato created FTG this makes him more of a genius also he one of the few ninjas that use jutsu that they created sauske and itachi don't create jutsu they just learn and the ms jutsu they use are given to them they just have to prefect them a true genius makes something unique and there own
 

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minato is more talented yes, without a doubt. but itachi is pretty damn close. sasuke is miles off
 

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This is why I think so

Alos i think the Uchias are strong mostly due to their eyes and Minato has no Kekki Genkai.

Thread maker you need to define universally the meanignof the word talented before making this kind of threads

Without setting a general line one can make arbitrary conclusion such as yours any day of the week

I can define Lee as a geniu of hard work

I can define Sasori for being a fu*king genius in recreating human puppetts

I can define Sasuke as genius for manipulating real lighting(real lightning for heavens sake)

I can define Itachi as genius for stretching the limits of the illusionary techniques

And the list goes on and on

It's easy to pick some characters statements and let them pass as universal fact when they aren't

You somehow say the uchia's are not talented because they have magic eyes,but forget to mention that those eyes need to be awakened,and trained meticulously for them to achieve their full potential

Not many uchia can cast genjutsu like Itachi's Tsukuyomi,nor can shape Amaterasu into the Kagutsuchi.

To master the yes skills and talent are required

Sasuke and Itachi trained to get where they are,and I must say they demonstrated their genius level talent in mastering the Mangekyou in no time,despite the sever drawbacks from it's use

It's too convenient to say they had the magic eyes and Minato didn't,it's clear that the uchia develope their fighting style with the gift mother nature gives them.If they didn't have the sharingan,then they would develope a diverse fighting style

So there's no Uchia without sharingan to measure their talent,you need to take that into account as it's part of their entity from the moment they exhale their first breath

Naruto is a Uzamki they have lots of chakra all of them.
Bee trained and got in control of Eight Tails btw without a biju help lol he didnt fight the biju with a biju.

Just as the Uchia train to master their eyes

Your Uchia downgrading is disgusting

Obito is a good example how sharingan gives a huge advantage actually and dont have much to do with being a "genius"
The moment he awakend 1 tomoe he started powning his enemies instantly without even needing time to adjust too it , while seconds before it he was still a weakling :rolleyes:

That being said Itachi was indeed a true genius with superior intellect and tactical skills

Man so wrong on so many accounts

But show me where Obito started owning,as I can't properly recall

What I remebered is Obito getting demolished by a rock slide

The future doesn't matter, he had unrivaled power when he was alive

fu*king narutobase troll that kills the fun in debating

This is like saying because Hashirama beat Madara in the valley end,now he will surely beat Madara with the Rinnegan

God the logic is so flawed that it's even a sin to call that logic

Typical Minato fanboy argument btw,nothing suprising,arguments that rely on outdated statements,and flash backs

Well there's nothing left besides that so I can sympathize with you people,your fav is in the death god's belly forever

so the past is the only thing you can cling on :rolleyes:
 

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This is why I think so

Alos i think the Uchias are strong mostly due to their eyes and Minato has no Kekki Genkai.

the uchiha are not only strong cause of there blessed eyes? you forget they have high amounts of chakra not only that most people in the clan are either genius or prodigys.
 

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yeah minato was a g even when he was like 10 taking out kumo jonin without them even knowing xd
 
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im going to start making threads like this so i can make the hottest thread next time. lets see.....minato < baked potato. that should be good enough.
 

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I disagree. You can say the same for the Uchiha's for Minato who uses FTG each-and-every time in battle. A man consider I genius as well, but has not shown anything besides dodging every attack with his FTG. Strip FTG away and see just how a genius Minato is.

Lol. He had great ammount of seals, he was the one who inverted Rasengan and Hiraishin, strongest technique ever.
What could Uchihas do? Only use eyes anytime they can.
 

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the uchiha are not only strong cause of there blessed eyes? you forget they have high amounts of chakra not only that most people in the clan are either genius or prodigys.

As Fukusaku said, he trained only ones with best amount of chakra, like JMAN, Naruto, and the thir of his students - Minato.
Also, he learned one of most difficult jutsus - Sealing techniques.
 

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Hmm, it's debatable. Itachi achieved a higher level at a younger age so......

Kakashi graduated at the age of 5(2 years before Itach) and achieved chunin rank at the age of 6(4 years before Itachi), which he did all without the sharingan. Does that make Kakashi more talented than Itachi? Achieving something at a younger age doesn't make one more talented. And Itachi had the benefit of his sharingan while Minato had no such advantage.

An example would be Gaara who's become the kazekage at the age of 16. I guess he's more talented than Minato, Hiruzen, Tobirama, Itachi, and etc because he achieved the highest rank possible at the age of 16.

It doesn't work like that.
 
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Kakashi graduated at the age of 5(2 years before Itach) and achieved chunin rank at the age of 6(4 years before Itachi), which he did all without the sharingan. Does that make Kakashi more talented than Itachi? Achieving something at a younger age doesn't make one more talented. And Itachi had the benefit of his sharingan while Minato had no such advantage.

An example would be Gaara who's become the kazekage at the age of 16. I guess he's more talented than Minato, Hiruzen, Tobirama, Itachi, and etc because he achieved the highest rank possible at the age of 16.

It doesn't work like that.

what? we are not talking about ranks.. did we mention ranks? 3 of the strongest people in the show are genins..ranks are unimportant
we are talking about sheer skill..

at 11, itachi could take out orochimaru a sannin..

Could 11 year old kakashi or minato do that?
Kishi stated that though itachi has little feats to show, to see his skill, look at who he is comparable to, at his age..

17 year old itachi was able to solo, kurenai and kakashi...

Minato and itachi aren't even in their prime.. which is like mid 30's...

It's already debatable whether minato can beat itachi, and itachi is only 21.. minato has around 7 years or so on him.. give itachi to 27, and minato 27, and i guarantee it would be a stomp...

this is what i mean.. who really has more talent? Itachi is progressing far faster than minato...

the only people that beat him in progression is naruto and sasuke, who are currently the most op 16 year olds ever, and both have the most talent..
 

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what? we are not talking about ranks.. did we mention ranks? 3 of the strongest people in the show are genins..ranks are unimportant
we are talking about sheer skill..

at 11, itachi could take out orochimaru a sannin..

Could 11 year old kakashi or minato do that?
Kishi stated that though itachi has little feats to show, to see his skill, look at who he is comparable to, at his age..

17 year old itachi was able to solo, kurenai and kakashi...

Minato and itachi aren't even in their prime.. which is like mid 30's...

It's already debatable whether minato can beat itachi, and itachi is only 21.. minato has around 7 years or so on him.. give itachi to 27, and minato 27, and i guarantee it would be a stomp...

this is what i mean.. who really has more talent? Itachi is progressing far faster than minato...

the only people that beat him in progression is naruto and sasuke, who are currently the most op 16 year olds ever, and both have the most talent..


Progressing at a fast rate doesn't mean one is more talented. It simply means they gained power at a very young age as Itachi did. Did he work for MS? No. All that had to happen was for him to feel the loss of his best friend Shisui and it awakened.

Minato on the other hand invented 3 A/S rank jutsu in the rasengan, FTG, and reaper death seal. I'd love to see Itachi do that. Not to mention Jiraiya stated Minato to have talent seen once a decade at best.

Give Minato the MS and I bet he can own Orochimaru, Kurenai, and Kakashi at that age as well. Minato became a top tier shinobi without the advantages that the sharingan bring, which is why IMO he is more talented.

If you mean being handed power up after power up then yea Naruto and Sasuke are progessing at a faster rate.

It didn't take talent for Naruto to have the kyuubi and use BM, only talk no jutsu and have it sealed within you(by Minato). It didn't take talent for Sasuke to unlock MS and EMS, only feel the lost of one closest to you and implant your brothers eyes.
 
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This is why I think so

Alos i think the Uchias are strong mostly due to their eyes and Minato has no Kekki Genkai.

Yes the Minato was extreamly talented but only in a few ways. He didnt have many techs but the ones he did have were aswome. and yes saskue is less talented then minato . But not Itachi. Itachi planned events years on years ahead and happened just as planned all the way until he died, Itachi was not only a combat genious but a Genious in general!U_U
 

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Yes the Minato was extreamly talented but only in a few ways. He didnt have many techs but the ones he did have were aswome. and yes saskue is less talented then minato . But not Itachi. Itachi planned events years on years ahead and happened just as planned all the way until he died, Itachi was not only a combat genious but a Genious in general!U_U

Minato also planned ahead like having enough confidence to seal the 9tails in his own son knowing he would be able to control it that planning pretty far ahead
 

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Progressing at a fast rate doesn't mean one is more talented. It simply means they gained power at a very young age as Itachi did. Did he work for MS? No. All that had to happen was for him to feel the loss of his best friend Shisui and it awakened.

Minato on the other hand invented 3 A/S rank jutsu in the rasengan, FTG, and reaper death seal. I'd love to see Itachi do that. Not to mention Jiraiya stated Minato to have talent seen once a decade at best.

Give Minato the MS and I bet he can own Orochimaru, Kurenai, and Kakashi at that age as well. Minato became a top tier shinobi without the advantages that the sharingan bring, which is why IMO he is more talented.

If you mean being handed power up after power up then yea Naruto and Sasuke are progessing at a faster rate.

It didn't take talent for Naruto to have the kyuubi and use BM, only talk no jutsu and have it sealed within you(by Minato). It didn't take talent for Sasuke to unlock MS and EMS, only feel the lost of one closest to you and implant your brothers eyes.



Handed his power? don't be ridiculous , its his kekke genkai, his bloodline... was neji handed power? haku handed power? Uchiha are a clan and part of the naruto manga

talent once a decade? you do realize a decade is only 10 years? so what jiraya said is that Minato is a ninja that comes once every 10 years -_-

itachi didn't create jutsu? his genjutsu came out of nowhere? transcription seal amaterasu which is fuinjutsu came out of nowhere? His skill in genjutsu to manipulate perception of time, seen by no other person.. that came out of nowhere?

In terms of talent, hiruzen surpassed hashirama and tobirama, Minato surpassed hiruzen, Itachi surpassed Minato... , sasuke and naruto has surpassed itachi


People like you who think getting a kkg makes you powerful, that's retard talk...

give minato sharingan at 11 , what makes you think he would be able to beat a saninn?

it was itachi's skill and aptitude in genjtusu that allowed him to do that to orochimaru... Have you seen minato as a genjtusu user? is it hinted anywhere in the manga that he's any good in genjutsu? spewing nonsense..
 
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Lmao this guy gave no argument at all and merely uploaded a link of what, jiraiya's his teacher said. Maybe i should also upload a link when a teacher has called a student a genius. So lets see, kakashi, oro, itachi, sasuke, neji, shika, lee...........

Wht jiraiya said is no different to what other sensei's have said about their students. If anything what jiraiya said is only confined to jiraiya students only and nothing more
 

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I like how everyone is saying that this is only jiraiyas opinion when kishi is the one putting the words in jmans mouth. It's kishis opinion not just jmans. Dumbasses
 

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Lmao this guy gave no argument at all and merely uploaded a link of his, jiraiya's teacher saying this. Maybe i should also upload a link when a teacher has called a student a genius. So lets see, kakashi, oro, itachi, sasuke, neji, shika, lee...........

Wht jiraiya said is no different to what other sensei's have said about their students. If anything what jiraiya said is only confined to jiraiya students only and nothing more

lol ikr,

Itachi's teacher said he was the best genius to come out the hidden leaf since the foundation -_-

which is better? that or once a decade genius?

I don't even use that in arguments because both were silly character opinions

It's kishis opinion not just jmans. Dumbasses

oh? it's kishi's opinion?

so itachi really is the best genius to come out of the hidden leaf since the foundation..\

NICE, you just agreed that Itachi is more of a genius than Minato.. what a great minato fan you are

since everything is kishi's opinion also, You'd agree Hiruzen > Minato right?
good good
 

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Handed his power? don't be ridiculous , its his kekke genkai, his bloodline... was neji handed power? haku handed power? Uchiha are a clan and part of the naruto manga

talent once a decade? you do realize a decade is only 10 years? so what jiraya said is that Minato is a ninja that comes once every 10 years -_-

itachi didn't create jutsu? his genjutsu came out of nowhere? transcription seal amaterasu which is fuinjutsu came out of nowhere? His skill in genjutsu to manipulate perception of time, seen by no other person.. that came out of nowhere?

In terms of talent, hiruzen surpassed hashirama and tobirama, Minato surpassed hiruzen, Itachi surpassed Minato... , sasuke and naruto has surpassed itachi


People like you who think getting a kkg makes you powerful, that's retard talk...

Did Itachi create 3 A/S rank jutsu from nothing? No. Tsukuyomi itself has the ability to manipulate time, so I don't know why you're trying to say Itachi somehow created it.

Before you even say Sasuke has tsukuyomi let me just say this. It's never stated he has tsukuyomi and the databook isn't proof either since it could've been specifically speaking of Itachi when saying susanoo requires amaterasu and tsukuyomi to use it since the technique susanoo in the databook was Itachi's, so it could very be speaking only of Itachi. Sasuke stated in the manga that all one had to do was possess the MS in both eyes to use susanoo.


Plus Sasuke's genjutsu is pathetic as Danzo pretty much said, so even if he does have tsukuyomi he can't use it on Itachi's level(manipulating time). It's pretty much like FTG with Minato and his guards. Minato can use it very effectively, but his guards have to be together to use it.

Minato became very powerful on intellect, talent, and skill alone while Itachi has the benefit of his sharingan. Minato had no such benefit.

To each his own though. My opinion doesn't change on the matter. Like I said it doesn't take talent to unlock the MS and EMS and neither does using BM.
 

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Handed his power? don't be ridiculous , its his kekke genkai, his bloodline... was neji handed power? haku handed power? Uchiha are a clan and part of the naruto manga

talent once a decade? you do realize a decade is only 10 years? so what jiraya said is that Minato is a ninja that comes once every 10 years -_-

itachi didn't create jutsu? his genjutsu came out of nowhere? transcription seal amaterasu which is fuinjutsu came out of nowhere? His skill in genjutsu to manipulate perception of time, seen by no other person.. that came out of nowhere?

In terms of talent, hiruzen surpassed hashirama and tobirama, Minato surpassed hiruzen, Itachi surpassed Minato... , sasuke and naruto has surpassed itachi


People like you who think getting a kkg makes you powerful, that's retard talk...

give minato sharingan at 11 , what makes you think he would be able to beat a saninn?

it was itachi's skill and aptitude in genjtusu that allowed him to do that to orochimaru... Have you seen minato as a genjtusu user? is it hinted anywhere in the manga that he's any good in genjutsu? spewing nonsense..

he did get handed down a kg and also no he didnt invent any jutsu name a jutsu that itachi invented
 

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lol ikr,

Itachi's teacher said he was the best genius to come out the hidden leaf since the foundation -_-

which is better? that or once a decade genius?

I don't even use that in arguments because both were silly character opinions

I say we all upload a link when a teacher has praised a student :rolleyes:. Ive never seen itachi, sasuke, neji, shika, kakashi or any other fanbase keep on talking nonsense about what a teacher has said about their fav character. Maybe i should start :rolleyes:
 
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