Owarij said:
And what excuses did I make? the kakashi thing is obvious and in no way relates to our initial argument...
It does relate since your the one who started the academy graduation argument, so if we go by that, then kakashi is stronger than Itachi
He said that itachi's eyes are the eyes of a true heir and that there was no possible situation to be in than that one.. meaning?
Meaning that fighting a true sharingan possessor was the worse situation possible at that moment?
there was no other situation.. it could be minato vs kakashi, and kakashi fully knows what minato is capable of, and still itachi vs kakashi would have been the worst case scenario
No, the fact that Kakashi fought Itachi, but still believed that no one could surpass Minato simply means that Minato is above Itachi's level. The fact that Jiraya saw what Itachi was capable of but still believed that everyone is pale in comparison to him means Itachi is nothing to him
LOL now you're talking about whether a ninja is fodder? kishi put him in the manga for a reason, he made him hype itachi like that for a reason.. you have no idea how strong he was.. We are talking about the "younger" days of these two ninjas right? Then he clearly states that he was the best genius since the academy start ..
Funny thing is that after saying that, even his father(who knows him perfectly well) stops him from saying such nonsenses. Like i've said, Jiraya's or Raikage's hype is more worthy than a fodder ninja(he is obviously fodder since only chunin levels work in the academy)
Orochimaru wasn't talking about taking his body at that time..1) the databook said in their fight he never tried to take the body then, It was only after his defeat did he start wanting an uchiha body... Orochimaru then says it's an impossible dream BECAUSE he's stronger than him.. so he's talking about his strength here
Never said Orochimaru tried to take his body back then. I'm saying that concerning the sentence you talk about, it's what Orochimaru probably meant by that. He wanted Itachi, but realised that the body changing jutsu would be impossible against Itachi
Killer bee said Sasuke is the toughest guy he's fought... and He did fight Minato...
Is that so in the viz translation? Anyway, he said "probably", which means it's not that sure. He was rating