minato is underrated - oh boy that's true

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When Minato dodged Ay's fastest punch Ay was less than an inch away from hitting Minato. If Naruto was in the place of Ay he would have punched Minato in the face, because he is faster than Ay.

 

[grizzlyshree]

When Minato dodged Ay's fastest punch Ay was less than an inch away from hitting Minato. If Naruto was in the place of Ay he would have punched Minato in the face, because he is faster than Ay.

well i think it doesn happen like that.when minato was dodging A,he would easily see As movement and react accordingly with speed.so if naruto tries to hit minato with the same distance as A did.minato would dodge it

 

[Draphsin]

that's what i call hater . you say i had no idea where he teleported from.and here i came with 4 examples. what did you came pulling the leg when some does the work and put it nicely for the people

lawl your examples all deny the possibility of hiraishin being used even if only once, your biased examples remain biased Lol.

you do realize tobirama was a S/T user too yet he was late and arrived with the other kage, let's say he threw and jump and move faster, is this thng excepted in a VS thread. another thing no matter how you look at it they all came up with a very high speed.

So what if tobi is an s/t user? We dont know how it works so we dont even know if its useful for long distance travel.

& if minato did do the throw, jump combo then how would that be useful in a vs thread? he's throwing the kunai so any skilled ninja with info would know whats going on, & its not like he can throw the kunai at the speed of light...

if one assumes the guy is faster in shunshin not a fuqking big deal and so if he can shunshin why waste chakra with s/t it's a complicated jutsu tough to learn. you are being at plain denial

What?? you make absolutely no sense XD minato's FTG is instant, its automatically faster than any shunshin ever used. Why waste chakra? because he's an edo & can afford to U_U. & FTG isnt complicated, get your facts straight.

It seems as though you want to prove your point so badly that youre being blinded by the obvious. Minato's FTG is obviously faster than normal shunshin. You need to provide a reason as to why it would be more effective to use shunshin .

haha it seems you are not only denying you lack brain too, read the fuqkin manga and see the picture how the kages came their position at arrival is enough to tell how they came
you are being ridiculous really cuz tobirama said shunshin so he came with shunshin ......
da fuq logic

Holy sh*t, you sir have some outrageous logic XD, tobirama & the hokage came at the exact same time, this is a fact. Also, you lack any sort of mental capacity if you think that tobirama mentioning shunshin means that they used shunshin the whole way. Tobi could've easily meant that minato outran the other hokage with shunshin, then proceeded to use FTG to reach the island or what have you. Tobirama's statement means nothing as he never followed minato all the way, so he has no clue as to how he traveled.

lol bad responce, cuz you can't prove other wise.

Occam's razor favors me in this point, so yes i did prove otherwise. It makes less sense for minato to have traveled the entire distance using shunshin alone without even the slightest possibility of FTG, therefore it is wrong Lol.

the first picture is failed cuz you are saying he had a kunai at battle field already okay where actually and at what point he decided to go throw and jump you have no idea. no one noticed him if he was already there it's still impressive and he came to the battle field long ago but really where

No im not, read my f*cking responses. I said what's stopping him from pre marking a part of the terrain once he already reached there? (like a rock or tree) He can then proceed to the island & FTG back in no time. You denying this makes it ridiculously obvious that you're being ignorant, because you cant even accept a possibility of FTG being used.

Also, he could've marked something behind the army, that way nobody would've seen him, then as he returns he throws his kunai in front of naruto.

& finally, stop saying that minato was at the battlefield for a long time because you cant even prove it, if he used shunshin then he was miles ahead of the hokage, able to reach the island, back, chill for a bit & then reach naruto before they can drop in. Yeah....makes sooo much sense to me /sarcasm..

the kunai in front of naruto was freshly thrown after the s/t barrier on TBB

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if he was already at the battle field at least where is the kunai will be shown already

Okay.....1 that kunai could've been thrown from a great height, you dont know if it was freshly thrown.

2, wtf? answer my question, why wouldnt minato mark the battlefield to cut his travelling time in half?

it's funny that throw and jump is being taught by a hater cuz it was made fun of in the past by haters and i understand this SMH. but really lol
your explanation is more hard to shwallow, not that it's impossible but you can't prove it either

Im not necessarily saying that he used throw jump, im saying that he used FTG even if only once (to get back from the island) or multiple times (to surround the juubi, to get to the island, or to reach the battlefield faster, etc...). Im just throwing out a scenario because even that makes more sense than moving over the distance that he did before the hokage can even hit their target with shunshin..

why it is so hard to shwallow that the man called yellow flash can have the best shunshin. in the manga he was praised for it mutiple times, if you remember kushina rescue from kuubi's palm attack he jumped to kushina then shunshin to a far up tree it was impressive feat
and no one has shown in the manga such shunshin feat.

I never said that he didnt have some of the best shunshin in the manga. But the example you just told me is nothing compared to the "island & back before the hokage could arrive" feat. Just because he has amazing shunshin doesnt mean that he can travel around the world within an hour (obvious exaggeration is obvious :|)

Also, show me where he's being praised specifically for his shinshin, I know that obito praised him for being fast but that feat could've been accomplished by any skilled ninja, obito being one of them. & thats only one time, i dont see multiple praises of his foot speed, & definitely no praise as the fastest shunshin user.

and yaa hokage were late more than a minute.

It didnt take minato a minute to reach that island & back with mere shunshin, that makes FTG completely irrelevant then. If he can cover that distance in less than a minute then what's the effing need to even teleport?

@ bold this going in my sig :snick:
do even understand the basic of a jutsu, without moulding chakra none of the jutsu can performed

I dare you to make it your sig, I have a scan of minato using FTG without using any signs to mould chakra. So whether he moulds chakra or not, he can still do it within mere milliseconds anyways so its irrelevant to the preparation of his jutsu. He can use FTG as fast as he can use shunshin XD

you do realize the safe distance could be higher than 30 kms

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if you think throw and jump think of this possibility to do the math genuinly and give me more legit sasfe distance. you know i was going for 10 times first.
seems the above TBB was not prepared for anhilation puepose
but seeing the no. of hater i had to reduce the distance.

"you do realize the safe distance could be higher than 30 kms " What does that even mean?? Whats a safe distance?

You need to clarify because this entire paragraph makes no sense to what I was talking about...Explain to me why you think FTG is less efficient & slower than shunshin.

another thing is if he had to throw the kunai it should be fast enough(kunai speed) each and every time which still is an undeniably impressive feat

Okay its impressive, but its expected of someone with s/t.

when the fuqk did you get the impression of debating you came up with nothing but denial right away.
if you had explanation just give it why do you think you are special that i'd care otherwise.
just read your own statements before saying anything to me.

I dont have to read my own statements, I gave my input & you brushed it off without even acknowledging my explanation. If you dont want to debate then dont respond, its f*cking simple.

and your logic is very good, and yup that's exactly my point
A normal fodder (like rin) would say "wow he's fast!" if they saw FTG for the first time, somebody already familiar with the technique will just say "you're still the fastest" or something along those lines. If one is aware of minato's FTG why would they not include it in minato's overall speed? It was the jutsu he was noted for..

Okay.......idk why you quoted me word for word....

you can't prove your points either and you simply stupid if you think minato don't need to mould his chakra to ftg, that's just ridiculous.

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So the point here is that minato can mould chakra as fast as he can for basic shunshin, its instant & is just as effective, I obviously didnt mean that FTG costs no chakra & youre ignorant for only thinking that. I was referring towards his need to use any handsigns in order to mould the chakra for it. So by this scan you can clearly see that he doesnt *_*

and why did he leave sauke and juugo behind

uhhhhhh.......because he didnt have a marking at the battlefield.......he needed to get there first & when he saw the juubi he took priority over sealing it.....

it's not surprising nor is impossible i didn't put that case simply cuz i'd have made fun of, and specially would be targeted for that and it might be you specially . don't think i didn't think of that
and you are still ignoring the kunai throwing speed and the real safe distance.

Please explain to me this "safe distance".

He can use shunshin while throwing his kunai...Its not like he's standing still waiting for them to hit their furthest point, lmfao. He's moving along & throwing kunai, why is that so hard to believe? Please answer the goddamn question instead of avoiding it like the rest..

funny cuz i came up with your diagram and you came up with denial.

Im not denying anything, im stating facts & proving that its more possible for FTG to have been used than not. You are denying this possibility.

i thought of more scenarios than you .

Well apparently you dont take the variables into consideration, you take the facts & assume it means what you want it to mean.

and it's me who compromise in this argument but you still stick to your ignorance (ithout proof and anything logical)

Nice one You compromised? LOL I came into this argument saying that he used FTG alone. You say that he used shunshin alone. I finally said that he may have used shunshin but he more than likely used FTG as well. However instead of dropping this argument & agreeing like a mature member, you blindly stick to your ignorance & say that there is no chance in hell that FTG was used. You have done the complete opposite of compromise this entire argument & if you cant see it then you must be more ignorant than I thought.

i'm not denying the small possibilities

Yes you are, you deny that FTG was used even once, that's a small possibility. I would've ended this if you didnt deny the small possibilities.

it's you who is at denial you deny hiruzen words, you deny tobirama's words.

Fail, you deny hiruzen's words (you think that hiruzen is only commenting on a portion of minato's speed, rather than all of it). & I gave up denying tobi's words, its not my fault if you cant prove that they used shunshin the whole way. Tobirama's statement is merely commenting on minato's shunshin speed, not his entire method of travel.

come up illogical explanation would think ftg don't need chakra moulding, won't consider the real safe distance.
and i'm the at denial

Showed you that FTG doesnt need proper chakra moulding, explain this "real safe distance" & ill probably prove it wrong too

people who are weak at physics and maths and logic

Physics, & english are my specialties, lmfao. I can barely comprehend your typing half the time, idk if its slang but its not helpful & if you want people to take you seriously & not as a hypocrite then you should tidy up that mess. Dont go criticizing & insulting people's logic when yours has something to be desired...

 

[NarutoKage2]

Good thread. Thanked for effort.

 

[takiyacrowz]

lawl your examples all deny the possibility of hiraishin being used even if only once, your biased examples remain biased Lol.



So what if tobi is an s/t user? We dont know how it works so we dont even know if its useful for long distance travel.

& if minato did do the throw, jump combo then how would that be useful in a vs thread? he's throwing the kunai so any skilled ninja with info would know whats going on, & its not like he can throw the kunai at the speed of light...



What?? you make absolutely no sense XD minato's FTG is instant, its automatically faster than any shunshin ever used. Why waste chakra? because he's an edo & can afford to U_U. & FTG isnt complicated, get your facts straight.

It seems as though you want to prove your point so badly that youre being blinded by the obvious. Minato's FTG is obviously faster than normal shunshin. You need to provide a reason as to why it would be more effective to use shunshin .



Holy sh*t, you sir have some outrageous logic XD, tobirama & the hokage came at the exact same time, this is a fact. Also, you lack any sort of mental capacity if you think that tobirama mentioning shunshin means that they used shunshin the whole way. Tobi could've easily meant that minato outran the other hokage with shunshin, then proceeded to use FTG to reach the island or what have you. Tobirama's statement means nothing as he never followed minato all the way, so he has no clue as to how he traveled.



Occam's razor favors me in this point, so yes i did prove otherwise. It makes less sense for minato to have traveled the entire distance using shunshin alone without even the slightest possibility of FTG, therefore it is wrong Lol.



No im not, read my f*cking responses. I said what's stopping him from pre marking a part of the terrain once he already reached there? (like a rock or tree) He can then proceed to the island & FTG back in no time. You denying this makes it ridiculously obvious that you're being ignorant, because you cant even accept a possibility of FTG being used.

Also, he could've marked something behind the army, that way nobody would've seen him, then as he returns he throws his kunai in front of naruto.

& finally, stop saying that minato was at the battlefield for a long time because you cant even prove it, if he used shunshin then he was miles ahead of the hokage, able to reach the island, back, chill for a bit & then reach naruto before they can drop in. Yeah....makes sooo much sense to me /sarcasm..



Okay.....1 that kunai could've been thrown from a great height, you dont know if it was freshly thrown.

2, wtf? answer my question, why wouldnt minato mark the battlefield to cut his travelling time in half?



Im not necessarily saying that he used throw jump, im saying that he used FTG even if only once (to get back from the island) or multiple times (to surround the juubi, to get to the island, or to reach the battlefield faster, etc...). Im just throwing out a scenario because even that makes more sense than moving over the distance that he did before the hokage can even hit their target with shunshin..



I never said that he didnt have some of the best shunshin in the manga. But the example you just told me is nothing compared to the "island & back before the hokage could arrive" feat. Just because he has amazing shunshin doesnt mean that he can travel around the world within an hour (obvious exaggeration is obvious :|)

Also, show me where he's being praised specifically for his shinshin, I know that obito praised him for being fast but that feat could've been accomplished by any skilled ninja, obito being one of them. & thats only one time, i dont see multiple praises of his foot speed, & definitely no praise as the fastest shunshin user.


It didnt take minato a minute to reach that island & back with mere shunshin, that makes FTG completely irrelevant then. If he can cover that distance in less than a minute then what's the effing need to even teleport?

I dare you to make it your sig, I have a scan of minato using FTG without using any signs to mould chakra. So whether he moulds chakra or not, he can still do it within mere milliseconds anyways so its irrelevant to the preparation of his jutsu. He can use FTG as fast as he can use shunshin XD


"you do realize the safe distance could be higher than 30 kms " What does that even mean?? Whats a safe distance?

You need to clarify because this entire paragraph makes no sense to what I was talking about...Explain to me why you think FTG is less efficient & slower than shunshin.

Okay its impressive, but its expected of someone with s/t.


I dont have to read my own statements, I gave my input & you brushed it off without even acknowledging my explanation. If you dont want to debate then dont respond, its f*cking simple.

Okay.......idk why you quoted me word for word....

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So the point here is that minato can mould chakra as fast as he can for basic shunshin, its instant & is just as effective, I obviously didnt mean that FTG costs no chakra & youre ignorant for only thinking that. I was referring towards his need to use any handsigns in order to mould the chakra for it. So by this scan you can clearly see that he doesnt *_*

uhhhhhh.......because he didnt have a marking at the battlefield.......he needed to get there first & when he saw the juubi he took priority over sealing it.....

Please explain to me this "safe distance".

He can use shunshin while throwing his kunai...Its not like he's standing still waiting for them to hit their furthest point, lmfao. He's moving along & throwing kunai, why is that so hard to believe? Please answer the goddamn question instead of avoiding it like the rest..

Im not denying anything, im stating facts & proving that its more possible for FTG to have been used than not. You are denying this possibility.

Well apparently you dont take the variables into consideration, you take the facts & assume it means what you want it to mean.

Nice one You compromised? LOL I came into this argument saying that he used FTG alone. You say that he used shunshin alone. I finally said that he may have used shunshin but he more than likely used FTG as well. However instead of dropping this argument & agreeing like a mature member, you blindly stick to your ignorance & say that there is no chance in hell that FTG was used. You have done the complete opposite of compromise this entire argument & if you cant see it then you must be more ignorant than I thought.

Yes you are, you deny that FTG was used even once, that's a small possibility. I would've ended this if you didnt deny the small possibilities.

Fail, you deny hiruzen's words (you think that hiruzen is only commenting on a portion of minato's speed, rather than all of it). & I gave up denying tobi's words, its not my fault if you cant prove that they used shunshin the whole way. Tobirama's statement is merely commenting on minato's shunshin speed, not his entire method of travel.

Showed you that FTG doesnt need proper chakra moulding, explain this "real safe distance" & ill probably prove it wrong too .

sighh you say you are good at physics , you call me biased funny coming out of your mouth. since you didn't come up with any logiacl explanation. and continuously pulling leg that's what you are doing.

may be i'm wasting my time but i'll try to make you understand one last time. and after i'll simply consider you a hater and never mind your posts


any way since you haven't come up with any explanation looks like i have to do all the hard work

i'll explain with the diagrams

rather i'll make another thread.

and it's really laughable if you think ftg don't need to moulding of chakra
each and evry fuking jutsu needs moulding of chakra. go read naruto from the start

for ftg you even need to make hand seal

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the techniques which need no hand seal such as rasengan
even those need chakra moulding

without chakra moulding not a single jutsu can be performed that's the basic knowledge of ninjutsu.

you sure read another manga.

now since we haven't seen minato using S/T barrier on TBB would you say
he didn't use S/T barrier on TBB, it's common sense he used same technique as kuubi.

so you need to know they won't so you the handseals each and every fukkin time. just like chidori it requires handseals but you don't see the user using handseal each and every fuking time.

you call me hypocrete and biased while it's you here clearly
because i don't see how my calculations are wrong

and if you have a better explanation why don't you come up with one
it's funny i'm comming with ideas you are at denial at every time
and you are calling me at denial.

where is your idea. don't say throw and jump, i already had that idea before i made the thread. you fail to explain your idea, and you are doing nothing
but denial you say people will not take me seriously that's laughable cuz why should i care . NB is not all of my world.

yaa but you sure made yourself a joke for me.

not only you are denying ideas you are also denying hiruzen's and tobirama's words.

and yaa it's you who started the insult. so don't fukking expect other's respect.



any way i'll do this last fukking time

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consider this triangle
let :
A = point of eyesight or deviation point
B = location of Juubi
C = location of kunai

A---C is the throw and jump distance. he has to throw and jump here no. of times he had to throw the kunai's and the speed with which each
kunai are thrown must be taken into consideration.

now if a-b is << b-c than ftg back at a is good choice. however if a-b = or > b-c then it's not a logical choice

since you insist on being fair then let's be fair about the size to and also the reaction time
also no. of times one has to throw and jump

i actually believed the TBB to be at least 10 times larger then the small one

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so i say destruction range = 100 KM = 10 times previous TBB

hence radius + extra few miles = safe distance = 50 + 5 = 55 km = rough idea


further maximum reaction time (point to be noted maximum) =

1 start of the TBB

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2 throw of the TBB

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= 2:30 minutes that's right i read the between pages slowly in 2 minutes .


why this time is maximum => say minato was in the battle field earlier than the TBB start he would go for
ftg back to the kage and and teleport them at the field to form the barrier right away

so if you are thinking he was already near the battle field. he must have less than 2.5 minutes of reaction time.

now lets have a look at throw and jump scenario say he can throw 500 m (the record for longest throw in real is 155m for a golf ball)
but since he is a ninja still any ways ..... so he performed FTG what should you call it v110 to go there and place a kunai.
then he ftg back lol

but the speed of his kunai is still breath taking 366 m/sec speed of sound 340.29 m/s that's his kunai throwing speed and yaa i'm using ftg for back so no more complaining. i'm being fair here

and whatever he uses kunai or shunshin his overall speed is still far beyond any comprehention

if you want me to add this on minato's abilities i'll be gald to use V110 in a vs thread

further a thing you should know even wikia aproves that minato can teleport things at multiple destination

which i should have added in my thread but i didn't because of haters

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i've seen you giving logic that shinra tensei will destroy the kunai that shows how dumb you are

wtf? answer my question, why wouldnt minato mark the battlefield to cut his travelling time in half?

YOU didn't even understand that it was fail because of him not being already in the battle field but you would thought i'm neglecting the possibility of not marking lol

you don't even understand what actually you are answering

Nice one You compromised? LOL I came into this argument saying that he used FTG alone. You say that he used shunshin alone. I finally said that he may have used shunshin but he more than likely used FTG as well. However instead of dropping this argument & agreeing like a mature member, you blindly stick to your ignorance & say that there is no chance in hell that FTG was used. You have done the complete opposite of compromise this entire argument & if you cant see it then you must be more ignorant than I thought.

read the fukking posts you idiot i never denyed the possibilities of ftg as much as you are claimimng. i said since shunshin could have been faster than speed of kunai itself, yes shunshin is a jutsu not just foot speed and in this manga no one has better shushin feat than minato

1 saving newborn naruto from obito
2 saving kushina from kurama's hand

these 2 feats are the best shunshin feat in the manga, 2nd i'm sticking to what tobirama said ur shunshin is better than mine they came using shunshin
sasuke and company were late you can't fukkin proof otherwise.

Fail, you deny hiruzen's words (you think that hiruzen is only commenting on a portion of minato's speed, rather than all of it). & I gave up denying tobi's words, its not my fault if you cant prove that they used shunshin the whole way. Tobirama's statement is merely commenting on minato's shunshin speed, not his entire method of travel.

these words as they are back to you -
Fail, you deny hiruzen's words (you think that hiruzen is only commenting on a portion of minato's ftg and not speed). & I gave up sticking to tobi's words, its not my fault if you cant prove that they used S/T in the way. Tobirama's statement is merely commenting on minato's shunshin speed,

He can use shunshin while throwing his kunai...Its not like he's standing still waiting for them to hit their furthest point, lmfao. He's moving along & throwing kunai, why is that so hard to believe? Please answer the goddamn question instead of avoiding it like the rest..

so decide here first which one is faster shunshin or the thrown kunai.

Physics, & english are my specialties, lmfao. I can barely comprehend your typing half the time, idk if its slang but its not helpful & . Dont go criticizing & insulting people's logic when yours has something to be desired...

english is my 5th language so may be i'm not good at it but i'm not that bad

if you want people to take you seriously & not as a hypocrite then you should tidy up that mess

ooh i'm scared, sarcasm

dunno about the people but i've seen you enough time against minato fans so i'll take you as a hatter for sure in NB.

must remind you i went for insulting cuz you started it and then u continued.

even if i was regecting throw and jump (i already gave you reason biggest reason haters)
i've calculated things more presicely now see that and end this useless talk.

 

[Mellanoma]

Genjutsu > minato very low difficulty. Why you keep reviving this thread?

 

[takiyacrowz]

Genjutsu > minato very low difficulty. Why you keep reviving this thread?

thanks for posting that's all i have to say

 

[Mellanoma]

thanks for posting that's all i have to say

lol no problem. The fanboyism is definitely high for minato considering this thread has 4 stars lol

 

[takiyacrowz]

lol no problem. The fanboyism is definitely high for minato considering this thread has 4 stars lol

i was expecting 5 but looks like some haters played there part :devil:

 

[AlphaScythian]

i was expecting 5 but looks like some haters played there part :devil:

Now that u remind me lol. Feel honored thou, i rarely ever do that

 

[BenjerminGaye]

i was expecting 5 but looks like some haters played there part :devil:

stop replying to drapshin. he will go on for days believing that his way is the only way. He'll deny the manga itself and imply that he knows what the characters are thinking even when there's no thought bubble there. when he's finally tired he'll neg rep u.

 

[takiyacrowz]

Now that u remind me lol. Feel honored thou, i rarely ever do that

no prob never cared for it, feel free.

stop replying to drapshin. he will go on for days believing that his way is the only way. He'll deny the manga itself and imply that he knows what the characters are thinking even when there's no thought bubble there. when he's finally tired he'll neg rep u.

thanks for the advice

 

[Untung]

Me =D specifically Itachi and perhaps Sasuke too. Not including the obvious ones like Madara and Obito.

Can you tell me who is hokage from uchiha clan????
As i remmember you all uchiha fan always say uchiha is 2nd stronges clan in NV but did we ever know who is from uchiha clan become kage????? Sarutobi is fodder clan, namikaze is fodder clan. But look the have kage from their clan........
But how is uchiha??????............???????