Minato is a very underrated character

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His Sage Mode wasn't perfect, he said so himself he couldn't use it in battle, he didn't even use it against Obito. What's worse is the toads never mentioned him when Naruto achieved a higher level of SM than Jiraiya which suggest it was also an asspull power up made by Kishi.

Finally, using Sage Mode is nowhere near the same as containing the most powerful bijuu, Kurama's chakra volume is thousands of times more than what Minato can produce with NE.

Furthermore, Kushina said the Jinchuuriki for the 9tails were chosen for their special chakra, as a non-Uzumaki Minato doesn't meet the requirements to be he 9 tails host.

He was physically overwhelmed from having a bijuu inside him, there's no way he would be able to use KCM with a living body.
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True, Kishi made it look like Naruto's talent with biju chakra came from Minato when in reality it came from Kushina. It would've been more believable if she was able to use KCM instead of him.

I wanted him to use more original techs like FTG and sealing jutsu or some of Jiraiya's abilities, the DBZ style look didn't suit him at all.
Minato has originality. FTG is specialty. Along with that he knows sealing jutsus and is very versatile. He is also exceptionally talented with chakra manipulation and conversion.
The only unoriginal thing he did was use BM.

Everyone current character in NV is using a move someone else already has except Naruto/Sasuke.
 

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Minato has originality. FTG is specialty. Along with that he knows sealing jutsus and is very versatile. He is also exceptionally talented with chakra manipulation and conversion.
The only unoriginal thing he did was use BM.

Everyone current character in NV is using a move someone else already has except Naruto/Sasuke.
Minato is far from versatile... But he's strong.
 

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stop wanking. alive minato isn't even sage mode naruto lvl
Alive Minato still sucks with SM, in fact he will suck more than when he was an Edo because he will have physical restrictions with a living body. If his SM was so powerful he would've used it against Obito yet he didn't :coffee:
 

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You can't seriously think that over wanked FTG can get pass sage senses do you?
No I just believe Minato>SM Naruto. And yes I'm pretty sure he can get past Naruto. He is way better than Tobirama and this is not Juubi Jin Madara.

Minato probably has a move that attacks you in all direction before you can blink. He was gonna use it on Obito. I put my money on Minato. He too knows senjutsu and its weaknesses.
 

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No I just believe Minato>SM Naruto. And yes I'm pretty sure he can get past Naruto. He is way better than Tobirama and this is not Juubi Jin Madara.

Minato probably has a move that attacks you in all direction before you can blink. He was gonna use it on Obito. I put my money on Minato. He too knows senjutsu and its weaknesses.
dude, naruto's reaction timing in KCM was able to react to Ay, his sage mode can clearly handle and counter minato the moment he exits out of that S/T the same way maddy dealt with tobirama and minato, and naruto dealt with ameno.
 

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dude, naruto's reaction timing in KCM was able to react to Ay, his sage mode can clearly handle and counter minato the moment he exits out of that S/T the same way maddy dealt with tobirama and minato, and naruto dealt with ameno.
It honestly could go either way. This is minato not Tobirama. Minato has variations and steps with his FTG. Plus he knows all about Sage Mode and its strengths and weaknesses.

Naruto has never faced FTG and this is not KCM so his speed wont even be better than Minato who.

Like I said earlier my moneys on Minato. He has plenty more FTG techniques also using many shuriken. SM Naruto didnt surpass Minato.
 

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He knows plenty elemental releases and knows plenty uzumaki sealings techs, as well as being very fast and genius level smart. What else does he need for you to see him as versatile?
If you're going by the databook, then everyone has plenty elemental releases... Which makes everyone versatile..
 

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It honestly could go either way. This is minato not Tobirama. Minato has variations and steps with his FTG. Plus he knows all about Sage Mode and its strengths and weaknesses.

Naruto has never faced FTG and this is not KCM so his speed wont even be better than Minato who.

Like I said earlier my moneys on Minato. He has plenty more FTG techniques also using many shuriken. SM Naruto didnt surpass Minato.
You keep saying he knows the ins and outs of sagemode and yet he got negged by it by madara. Besides why should we take his knowledge of it seriously when his lame ass couldn't even master it? Yes speedwise it's kcm>sm. But reactionwise it's sm>kcm. However his kcm was able to react to Ay. If he could react to that in that form he should have no problem reacting to it with SM against minato. For unlike Ay whose physically faster (requires physical speed to counter i.e kcm) minato after he exits out of FTG would be in his normal speed and that is how sm naruto will counter him. All nardo has to do is patiently wait. The weakness to FTG is minato himself.
 

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If you're going by the databook, then everyone has plenty elemental releases... Which makes everyone versatile..
Yes I am. And thats only a portion of why he say he's versatile. Minato invented Rasengan, can warp a tailed beast bomb through a portal or in a flash. He managed to land a hit on Obito and release his complete control over Kuruma in one move, even going as far as having a powerful seal to trap the kyuubi. He mastered Senjutsu(didnt go with his style). And he still had more moves up his sleeves that we didnt get to see including his elemental jutsus.

Him knowing elemental releases just adds to it.
 

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You keep saying he knows the ins and outs of sagemode and yet he got negged by it by madara. Besides why should we take his knowledge of it seriously when his lame ass couldn't even master it? Yes speedwise it's kcm>sm. But reactionwise it's sm>kcm. However his kcm was able to react to Ay. If he could react to that in that form he should have no problem reacting to it with SM against minato. For unlike Ay whose physically faster (requires physical speed to counter i.e kcm) minato after he exits out of FTG would be in his normal speed and that is how sm naruto will counter him. All nardo has to do is patiently wait. The weakness to FTG is minato himself.
Minato mastered Sage Mode past Jiraiyah and before Naruto. He has no frog traits and is in perfect Sage Mode form. He is just not at Narutos level with it in regards to molding and handling Senjutsu. However he knows all about it himself so he'd know how, when and where to attack given he is genius. Anyone would get negged by Juubi Jin Madara. Madara negged everybody.

Minato's reaction time is better than Naruto's and may even rival the senjutsu of Narutos SM. Minato is so fast and good with FTG that it looks like he is in multiple places at once when he wipes out a platoon.

If its coming down to sensing yes Naruto can sense Minato. However I dont see him on Minato's level to be able to really touch or compete with him.
 
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