Minato + Hashirama VS Edo Madara

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Minato is strong, I admit, but comparing him to Madara would amount to overestimating him.

Madara is currently on par with the 5 kages.

He lost to Hashirama so that he could gain access to the abilities of the senju clan:


Madara is the main antagonist of the series, not Hashirama.
OMG man you are an idoit...thats TOBI not madara....Tobi is not madara.....tobi is alive then...madara is in a coffin....tobi fights narutos while madara figthing five kages....two different people....wow >.>
 

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Minato is strong, I admit, but comparing him to Madara would amount to overestimating him.

Madara is currently on par with the 5 kages.

He lost to Hashirama so that he could gain access to the abilities of the senju clan:


Madara is the main antagonist of the series, not Hashirama.
you do know that your listening to a liar pretending to be another person right? lol. until proven other wise minato is just as strong. or kishi wouldnt say things like minato has unmatchable strength. or minato was the strongest ninja the leaf has ever produced(hiruzens words). or i never thought he would be surpassed(raikage words). or hes a once in a generation genius(jiraiya's words). the proof is in the manga. minato can hold his own against the strongest shinobis. im not saying he stronger the the real madara. but he can hold his own and wouldnt get wrecked easily.
 

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Minato is strong, I admit, but comparing him to Madara would amount to overestimating him.

Madara is currently on par with the 5 kages.

He lost to Hashirama so that he could gain access to the abilities of the senju clan:


Madara is the main antagonist of the series, not Hashirama.


tobi is the main antagonist here not madara. are you reading the manga called naruto that was created by kishimoto? or are you reading the manga that was created by the kid with the "L" signature in this site?
 

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you do know that your listening to a liar pretending to be another person right? lol. until proven other wise minato is just as strong. or kishi wouldnt say things like minato has unmatchable strength. or minato was the strongest ninja the leaf has ever produced(hiruzens words). or i never thought he would be surpassed(raikage words). or hes a once in a generation genius(jiraiya's words). the proof is in the manga. minato can hold his own against the strongest shinobis. im not saying he stronger the the real madara. but he can hold his own and wouldnt get wrecked easily.
Kishi didn't say that all that, Hiruzen, Jiraiya and A said it from their own perspective.

Madara's name was enough to start the fourth shinobi world war and I don't think Minato has reached that level yet.

Minato can hold his own against many strong shinobi, and he is also very strong.However, he'd lose to Madara after putting up a good fight.

Tobi is definitely Madara (partly, if not wholly).How else does he know everything about Madara, and his past?We also know for a fact that Madara didn't die in that fight.He died sometime later, after he awakened the rinnegan.

The toads say that Sage mode Naruto has surpassed Minato, what do you say to that?

(Please read this page and the next one).
 

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Kishi didn't say that all that, Hiruzen, Jiraiya and A said it from their own perspective.

Madara's name was enough to start the fourth shinobi world war and I don't think Minato has reached that level yet.

Minato can hold his own against many strong shinobi, and he is also very strong.However, he'd lose to Madara after putting up a good fight.

Tobi is definitely Madara (partly, if not wholly).How else does he know everything about Madara, and his past?We also know for a fact that Madara didn't die in that fight.He died sometime later, after he awakened the rinnegan.

The toads say that Sage mode Naruto has surpassed Minato, what do you say to that?

(Please read this page and the next one).

OKAY KISHI DIDNOT SAY IT LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL :p
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read and go through that chapter called departure 238 "everyone set off for more power even akatsuki
 
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OKAY KISHI DIDNOT SAY IT LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL :p
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You haven't answered my question about Sage Mode Naruto surpassing Minato.

Besides, we all know that Madara has surpassed sage mode naruto.
Minato is cool and everything, but please don't try to say that nobody other than Naruto can surpass him.

Minato has already been surpassed by Nagato, Itachi, KM Naruto, EMS Sasuke and of course, his fanboys.xd
 

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Kishi didn't say that all that, Hiruzen, Jiraiya and A said it from their own perspective.

Madara's name was enough to start the fourth shinobi world war and I don't think Minato has reached that level yet.

Minato can hold his own against many strong shinobi, and he is also very strong.However, he'd lose to Madara after putting up a good fight.

Tobi is definitely Madara (partly, if not wholly).How else does he know everything about Madara, and his past?We also know for a fact that Madara didn't die in that fight.He died sometime later, after he awakened the rinnegan.

The toads say that Sage mode Naruto has surpassed Minato, what do you say to that?

(Please read this page and the next one).

Tobi is madaras younger brother he supposedely killed and took his eyes thats why he said to konan that he wants nagatos eyes that rightfully belong to him....and how does he knwo all about madara because hes his brother and madara told him his plan and then took his eyes...how does he look like madara because they are uchihas they all look the same...and naruto is badass and can waste most people now and minato also could but just not as much as naruto can.
 

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Tobi is madaras younger brother he supposedely killed and took his eyes thats why he said to konan that he wants nagatos eyes that rightfully belong to him....and how does he knwo all about madara because hes his brother and madara told him his plan and then took his eyes...how does he look like madara because they are uchihas they all look the same...and naruto is badass and can waste most people now and minato also could but just not as much as naruto can.
So, You're trying to say that Tobi is Izuna, just like some people say that Tobi is Obito.

Of course, all this is possible, but it can't be proven conclusively for now.

If you want to say that Minato can defeat Edo Madara, please refute all the arguments that I've posted.

I'll log off for now, as I have to study for my University Exams.
I'll be back after a few hours to see what people have to say.
So, until then, good day.:)
 

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You haven't answered my question about Sage Mode Naruto surpassing Minato.

Besides, we all know that Madara has surpassed sage mode naruto.
Minato is cool and everything, but please don't try to say that nobody other than Naruto can surpass him.

Minato has already been surpassed by Nagato, Itachi, KM Naruto, EMS Sasuke and of course, his fanboys.xd
i gave you a scan on kishis perspective and you ignored it??? while it was PA's perspective you believe it? even it was clearly stated that "it LOOKS like,it LOOKS like it LOOKS like he surpassed the once before him" you believe that frog but you dont believe A, KAKASHI JIRAIYA and even kishi himself? actually your the fanboy that hates on minato because he got most of the hype from kishi and not your fave character. flee on sight from minato, while you should attack madara if you see him lol
 
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So, You're trying to say that Tobi is Izuna, just like some people say that Tobi is Obito.

Of course, all this is possible, but it can't be proven conclusively for now.

If you want to say that Minato can defeat Edo Madara, please refute all the arguments that I've posted.

I'll log off for now, as I have to study for my University Exams.
I'll be back after a few hours to see what people have to say.
So, until then, good day.:)
The is my opinion on who i think it is with the help of zetsu he lost his eyes and zetsu lent him his eyes to go look for new ones just efroe he died....o yea and you say theres no proof to naruto surpassing Minato..then explain how it has been more then 200 episodes since kakashi said that and naruto has learnt a ton of new things...you my sir need to do some more reearch because your ideas are idoitic...
and i didnt say minato can beat madara i said minato and 1st hokage can beat madara together.
 

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You haven't answered my question about Sage Mode Naruto surpassing Minato.

Besides, we all know that Madara has surpassed sage mode naruto.
Minato is cool and everything, but please don't try to say that nobody other than Naruto can surpass him.

Minato has already been surpassed by Nagato, Itachi, KM Naruto, EMS Sasuke and of course, his fanboys.xd
after having a KM which is stronger than SM what yamato said to bee??? here stick it in your ass
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OKAY KISHI DIDNOT SAY IT LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL :p
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read and go through that chapter called departure 238 "everyone set off for more power even akatsuki
Minato is better than KM Naruto when it comes to controlling speed.That's what Yamato means when he says that Naruto isn't at Yondaime's level.Even a four year old child will be able to understand that.

In the scan which shows Minato smiling, Kishi says that Minato has "Unrivalled" strength.Do you really believe that Minato is the strongest and that his strength cannot be rivalled even by so6p?

Are you saying that Minato can't be defeated by Nagato, Itachi, Madara, EMS Sasuke, KM Naruto, so6p, Hashirama and Rinnegan Tobi just because Kishi said that his strength is "unrivalled"?

If so, you are a hopeless Minato fanboy, and a troll.
If you can't contradict any of the things that that I mentioned in post #54, It means that you have no explanation on how Minato + Hashirama can defeat Edo Madara.In other words, It means that you've admitted defeat.
 

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Minato is better than KM Naruto when it comes to controlling speed.That's what Yamato means when he says that Naruto isn't at Yondaime's level.Even a four year old child will be able to understand that.

In the scan which shows Minato smiling, Kishi says that Minato has "Unrivalled" strength.Do you really believe that Minato is the strongest and that his strength cannot be rivalled even by so6p?

Are you saying that Minato can't be defeated by Nagato, Itachi, Madara, EMS Sasuke, KM Naruto, so6p, Hashirama and Rinnegan Tobi just because Kishi said that his strength is "unrivalled"?

If so, you are a hopeless Minato fanboy, and a troll.
If you can't contradict any of the things that that I mentioned in post #54, It means that you have no explanation on how Minato + Hashirama can defeat Edo Madara.In other words, It means that you've admitted defeat.


okay keep on denying what kishi wrote it makes you look more stupid than any idiots out here :flaw: i wont reply until you proven yourself worthy enough to have an argument with me
 
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Minato is better than KM Naruto when it comes to controlling speed.That's what Yamato means when he says that Naruto isn't at Yondaime's level.Even a four year old child will be able to understand that.

In the scan which shows Minato smiling, Kishi says that Minato has "Unrivalled" strength.Do you really believe that Minato is the strongest and that his strength cannot be rivalled even by so6p?

Are you saying that Minato can't be defeated by Nagato, Itachi, Madara, EMS Sasuke, KM Naruto, so6p, Hashirama and Rinnegan Tobi just because Kishi said that his strength is "unrivalled"?

If so, you are a hopeless Minato fanboy, and a troll.
If you can't contradict any of the things that that I mentioned in post #54, It means that you have no explanation on how Minato + Hashirama can defeat Edo Madara.In other words, It means that you've admitted defeat.
Dude have you been paying attention to what we've been saying...clearly not...and don't put words in our mouth...you seriously having something wrong in your head...learn to read what others type not just make up s*** and think your gloriuos just because you think your right when your not.
 

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Dude have you been paying attention to what we've been saying...clearly not...and don't put words in our mouth...you seriously having something wrong in your head...learn to read what others type not just make up s*** and think your gloriuos just because you think your right when your not.
Why are you getting all worked up?

I didn't tell all that to you, it was aimed at BloodSeed.He seems to think that Minato can defeat so6p, just because Kishi said that his strength is unrivalled.Read his last post...lol.

If I'm not mistaken, you are saying that Minato and Hashirama can defeat Edo Madara.What are your reasons?

Please don't flame.Let us discuss using logic and not blind fanboyism.
And if you don't want to, don't bother to post,lol.
 
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