Minato didn't create the Reaper Death Seal?

[Kages]

HHow can u argue with the manga??? You can't because if it wasn't for the manga you wouldn't even be on here you wouldn't have anything to discuss and NB would have never been created but u can argue with the manga...really

People argue with the manga all the time. They say Hashirama> Hiruzen, something the manga showed isn't true. They say Madara> Hashirama, manga says its not true. It's why we discuss on here. It's why we're on Narutobase

 

[Kages]

...Are you purposely trying to be oblivious?

The title of the chapter is Minato's Shiki Fuujin. Now why would the author make the title that, and make one of his revered characters make the statement that said jutsu belong to the same character mentioned in the title, whilst we've seen no one else use it, if the jutsu wasn't his?

When Minato uses the Shiki Fuujin on Kyuubi, Hiruzen doesn't see him using the jutsu, he sees the demon itself. Hiruzen automatically assumes that it is Minato using the jutsu and not anyone else, what does that tell you? Why didn't he assume it was Kushina? Because it is not her jutsu, it is Minato's.

Then I followed up with an example. Prior to Sasuke using the Chidori, we never knew for certainty that Kakashi invented Chidori. Hiruzen makes the statement, that that was Kakashi's jutsu, and at that point we accepted that Kakashi was the creator of said jutsu. It is no different than Minato's case.

You ask for proof and yet, you have no proof supporting your thesis that it isn't Minato's jutsu... I really don't understand people's piss poor logic here.

Please show me in the manga where it states Minato created it. Saying it's their jutsu is a different thing, as I have stated for the third time that many people say it's Kakashi's Kamui, yet Obito learned it earlier. When it's says that he created it, then I will believe you. You're the one who has no proof, as we can't make assumptions with Naruto.

 

[Kazemaru]

i always thought that the seal was another one that was taught to minato by the uzumaki clan. o.o

 

[theRPGdude]

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It never was Minato's jutsu to begin with.

Hidden Eddy was feared for there sealing jutsu. And it could have been Naruto's mom that fought Minato this jutsu. Since the village has been dead for a while. Only Naruto's mom have the capabilities and mnowledge of the clan and jutsu.

Not only did she taught Minato. But she heirs to that clan. And the Eddy and the Senju were close. Could be a forbidden scroll sealed by Hashirama. Now that I think it is a scroll.

 

[YellowFang]

Since we haven't heard about RDS before Minato's first usage of it and to the indications that Minato was a great creator not only learner somehow leads us to believe he might have developed it after learning many seals from Kushina and understanding the basic concept behind it....Afterall, he was a once in a generation ninja.
What less you expect from him???

Even Rasengan and FTG are both on a whole new level techniques that no ordinary person can even imagine creating them...

 

[Chef Boy RD]

Please show me in the manga where it states Minato created it. Saying it's their jutsu is a different thing, as I have stated for the third time that many people say it's Kakashi's Kamui, yet Obito learned it earlier. When it's says that he created it, then I will believe you. You're the one who has no proof, as we can't make assumptions with Naruto.

You call that proof? Wow....

Many people like who? Show me a manga chapter titled, "Kakashi's Kamui" and then show me a page where someone with a knowledge base of Kamui equivalent to that of Kakashi's stating it is Kakashi's jutsu. You can't, but on the other hand:

We have a chapter entitled, "Minato's Shiki Fuujin", and we have a character with an equivalent knowledge base (or insignificantly lesser) of the fuuinjutsu, stating that it is Yondaime's jutsu.

 

[Da Best Ever]

My point is u can't argue with the publication because what ever u believe your always wrong unless your the writer but obviously your not the writer because a writer could make more sense and show proof and your name isn't Kishi who clearly makes it obvious to us what he writes if not he would have edited down the line making it clear that the jutsu belong to someone else but he hasn't so why again are we discussing this? ?? Oh but I agree with u Hiruzen is > hashirama and ems madara < hashirama but madara wasn't fully developed somehow he unlocks the rinnegan at an old age and it he had it while fighting hashirama he would have easily whooped him

 

[YellowFang]

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It never was Minato's jutsu to begin with.

Hidden Eddy was feared for there sealing jutsu. And it could have been Naruto's mom that fought Minato this jutsu. Since the village has been dead for a while. Only Naruto's mom have the capabilities and mnowledge of the clan and jutsu.

Not only did she taught Minato. But she heirs to that clan. And the Eddy and the Senju were close. Could be a forbidden scroll sealed by Hashirama. Now that I think it is a scroll.

Not RDS... Other seals that Minato performed on Kyuubi...

 

[theRPGdude]

Not RDS... Other seals that Minato performed on Kyuubi...

And what are those seals?

 

[Zato]

I highly doubt he could create a jutsu like that. That jutsu was most likely the Uzumaki's or some other unknown outside source. I mean he really found out how to control a death reaper? That seems like something the 2nd Hokage would have created since he himself figured out how to bring the dead back into the living world.

 

[Kages]

What I'm trying to say is all the proof there is for you is the title. That's it. How do you know it wasn't translated correctly. And no one has ever said Minato created the technique. The title says Minato's Shiki Fujin. That's all. O.O Wowww... Please show me again where it was said that it was created by Minato. Its obviously Minato's jutsu, because he can use it. Rasengan is obviously Naruto's jutsu , as he uses it. Your jutsu is the one that you can use. Nothing more, nothing less. As I am saying again, you can't make assumptions in Naruto, so unless Kishi clears that up, I won't believe it. Manga says he can use it and it's his jutsu, not he created it. Btw I don't have anything against Minato, I am just trying to prove a point. WTH

 

[Kages]

I highly doubt he could create a jutsu like that. That jutsu was most likely the Uzumaki's or some other unknown outside source. I mean he really found out how to control a death reaper? That seems like something the 2nd Hokage would have created since he himself figured out how to bring the dead back into the living world.

Thank you.

 

[theRPGdude]

My point is u can't argue with the publication because what ever u believe your always wrong unless your the writer but obviously your not the writer because a writer could make more sense and show proof and your name isn't Kishi who clearly makes it obvious to us what he writes if not he would have edited down the line making it clear that the jutsu belong to someone else but he hasn't so why again are we discussing this? ?? Oh but I agree with u Hiruzen is > hashirama and ems madara < hashirama but madara wasn't fully developed somehow he unlocks the rinnegan at an old age and it he had it while fighting hashirama he would have easily whooped him

Are you the writer?

Kishimoto leaves his story to be interpreted by fans. Some may have different viewpoints and some the same.

 

[Kages]

Are you the writer?

Kishimoto leaves his story to be interpreted by fans. Some may have different viewpoints and some the same.

Exactly. Anyway, I'm out. I've stated my reasons. Some people agreed, some people disagreed. I don't really care at the end because it's my opinion and everyone should believe what they believe.

 

[lol99]

Manga doesnt say that kushina taught him RDS, she taught him the seal on naruto's belly along with all the other seals
Minato has been said to have uncommon talent and the ability to invent many jutsus

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I agree with you. I don't think he created it and it doesn't seem like he did because everyone knew details about it. If the jutsu were his own creation then i doubt anyone other than he would have known as much as everyone else did.

lol even someone like orochimaru didn't knew shit about it

furthermore look at what kakashi says

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[Naruto Ninetails]

well yeah i think that it is uzumaki clans......

 

[Guildmage]

Probably it is not his creation, because hiruzen was apologizing to both hokages for using that technique during oro vs hiruzen fight.
Possibly pointing out that both first and second hokage knew that technique.
And the eras from first to 4th hokage are pretty far away

 

[YellowFlash1]

I actually disagree... When Naruto used it rasengan, most people said "It's the Forth's Rasengan". They acknowledged it as the fourths jutsu, Nauto merely mastered it.

Sasuke as well, when he did chidori on Raikage... He stated it as "Kakashi of the sharingan's Chidori".

This is a picture of the 3rd claiming it, to be the jutsu of the man who saved the village, Implying "Minato". I don't understand why you want to take that away from him.

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Regardless, i believe he did make it. He created FTG, Rasengan, which are incredible techniques... It wouldn't be far off to imply that is he cable of making such a jutsu as "Death Reaper Seal".

 

[~Sovereign~]

minato created reaper death seal, 3rd hokage said it DEAL WITH IT

minato created rasengan too, naruto just completed it like oro/kabuto completed 2nd hokage's edo tensai

minato also created ftg/space time barrier

almost EVERY jutsu minato showed in the manga was his own jutsu

 

[Kurama999]

I don't think the 4th Hokage created the Reaper Death Seal. Most people do but not me. Most people get that impression because Hiruzen said "this is the 4th's jutsu!" but I don't believe so because he could've said that just because he used it. If Kakashi says "It's Naruto's Rasengan!", does that mean he created it? No, it just sounds better and confuses some people. Or Madara's Susanoo or anything like that. But what do you think? and if you have proof I would love to see it

Who said "Reaper Death Seal" was created by Minato...
Maybe ask his wife, Kushina, which Uzumaki clan were famous in seals.
Rasengan................................