minato cant dodge amaterasu

[FizzyDrink]

Your logic would only work IF V2 A's attack speed was = to amaterasu's speed...
But it ISN'T... Amaterasu is clearly faster..
A needed his v2 and a SHUNSHIN to dodge amaterasu.. he was storing up chakra in his body to do it... I linked the scans of shee and karin noticing it...

Actually, Amaterasu is only as fast as the eye can focus. Doesn't that make sense? It appears on whatever surface the eye can focus on, so it is dependent upon that factor. If V2 is faster than even a sharingan can focus on, then Minato, who managed to see V2, process the threat, and then evade it all at a speed clearly faster than a sharingan (or at least Sasuke's), then he should be able to do the same for Amaterasu, because Minato can process a threat more quickly than a Sharingan can fully focus (or at least Sasuke's, because that's the only example we really have).

 

[ReapTermin]

NO IT IS NOT... NOT one scan in the manga said that...
Shee said the complete OPPOSITE.. that Minato's reflexes are comparable to that of BASE raikage... I've posted the scan, Ispeak has posted the VIZ scan, how many more scans do you need?

:sy: Read the first box to the right. Read... carefully!!

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[Owarij]

You fail to realize that they use the scanlations when they come out, then they use the official Viz translation once it comes out.

Oh, and Shee actually said that when Raikage was V2.

No he didn't

 

[Owarij]

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Read the next line my friend


BUT NOW THAT HE'S COVERED IN THE SHROUD...

when he did his comparison, he compared base raikage...then used but to show something different

 

[iSpeak]

Owarij, it is pointless. These people are having a hard enough time reading and understanding 2 simple panels. I just don't know what more to say... He even thinks Raikage was in V2 when C said that... what Manga has this guy been reading? Actually, who taught him how to even read?

 

[Owarij]

Owarij, it is pointless. These people are having a hard enough time reading and understanding 2 simple panels. I just don't know what more to say... He even thinks Raikage was in V2 when C said that... what Manga has this guy been reading? Actually, who taught him how to even read?

I don't understand how it's so hard to read that 1 little page and understand :shrug:

 

[ReapTermin]

Owarij, it is pointless. These people are having a hard enough time reading and understanding 2 simple panels. I just don't know what more to say... He even thinks Raikage was in V2 when C said that... what Manga has this guy been reading? Actually, who taught him how to even read?

I don't understand how it's so hard to read that 1 little page and understand :shrug:

It is how it is. You two have your opinion and I have mine.

 

[Owarij]

It is how it is. You two have your opinion and I have mine.

but your opinion goes against what is stated in the manga.... of every translation, even the OFFICIAL VIZ one..

 

[silmarill]

I always thought Minato speed was faster then raikage and if look at this panel it just proves me right

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Kakashi thought the person moving there was his sensei or he was clearly comparing the speed of that with Minato's
And dont say he compared it with Minato's ftg , cause there is no speed with ftg , u just appear somewhere , no he saw Naruto's movement speed and was in awe and thinking to himself it was his sensei

 

[Owarij]

I always thought Minato speed was faster then raikage and if look at this panel it just proves me right

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Kakashi thought the person moving there was his sensei or he was clearly comparing the speed of that with Minato's
And dont say he compared it with Minato's ftg , cause there is no speed with ftg , u just appear somewhere , no he saw Naruto's movement speed and was in awe and thinking to himself it was his sensei

IT'S not about speed.. that's HALF of the picture.. go back a few pages, and read ispeaks posts, or mines

 

[home]

Never stated

yes it was, by A himself he said now that your father is dead i am the fastest man in the world

 

[ReapTermin]

but your opinion goes against what is stated in the manga.... of every translation, even the OFFICIAL VIZ one..

We can use whatever info is given in the Manga to our advantage. You and iSpeak have what Shee said and I have what the Manga has said about Minato many times. You say Minato can't dodge it and I say he can. No more arguments...

 

[Owarij]

yes it was, by A himself he said now that your father is dead i am the fastest man in the world

what? I'm not disagreeing on minato's speed..
i'm commenting on Minato's REFLEXES, which is below that of v2 raikage..

We can use whatever info is given in the Manga to our advantage. You and iSpeak have what Shee said and I have what the Manga has said about Minato many times. You say Minato can't dodge it and I say he can. No more arguments...

But the only thing stated in the manga about minatos reflexes is from shee....
Minato is undoubtedly the fastest in the world..

But twice, he came inches from avoiding v2 punch...
Which means he has just enough reflexes to avoid v2 punch before it hit him..

Raikage in V2 has just enough reflexes to dodge amaterasu......
v2PUNCH SPEED < Amaterasu...That's obvious...

How can minato dodge amaterasu , if he only has enough to dodge v2 raikage?

 

[silmarill]

well im not really sure of the difference between reflexes and speed in Naruto manga
But what about this

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Tobi his hand is a cm away from touching him and warpign Minato in his dimension but still his "reflexes" are enough to turn around and put a knife in his head faster then tobi can move his hand 1 cm

 

[ReapTermin]

what? I'm not disagreeing on minato's speed..
i'm commenting on Minato's REFLEXES, which is below that of v2 raikage..


But the only thing stated in the manga about minatos reflexes is from shee....
Minato is undoubtedly the fastest in the world..

But twice, he came inches from avoiding v2 punch...
Which means he has just enough reflexes to avoid v2 punch before it hit him..

Raikage in V2 has just enough reflexes to dodge amaterasu......
v2PUNCH SPEED < Amaterasu...That's obvious...

How can minato dodge amaterasu , if he only has enough to dodge v2 raikage?

What Shee said can be misinterpreted. He could have said that Minato's reflexes are on par with Raikage Base. He could have said that Raikage V2 reflexes are greater than Minato's because of V2. He could have said that Minato's reflexes are on par to Raikage V2, but since he's covered in Lighting Chakra, the Sharingan would not be able to read his movements because it disturbs the way the Sharingan reads his movements.

And do you go by what the broad Manga says... or by what a single characters says? If you go by what a single character says... how can Shee really know that? He's not the Raikage, nor is he Minato.

 

[FizzyDrink]

what? I'm not disagreeing on minato's speed..
i'm commenting on Minato's REFLEXES, which is below that of v2 raikage..


But the only thing stated in the manga about minatos reflexes is from shee....
Minato is undoubtedly the fastest in the world..

But twice, he came inches from avoiding v2 punch...
Which means he has just enough reflexes to avoid v2 punch before it hit him..

Raikage in V2 has just enough reflexes to dodge amaterasu......
v2PUNCH SPEED < Amaterasu...That's obvious...

How can minato dodge amaterasu , if he only has enough to dodge v2 raikage?

Could you please look at your response to my response to your response? I gave you a reason to believe that V2 is faster than Amaterasu.

 

[ReapTermin]

What Shee said can be misinterpreted. He could have said that Minato's reflexes are on par with Raikage Base. He could have said that Raikage V2 reflexes are greater than Minato's because of V2. He could have said that Minato's reflexes are on par to Raikage V2, but since he's covered in Lighting Chakra, the Sharingan would not be able to read his movements because it disturbs the way the Sharingan reads his movements.

And do you go by what the broad Manga says... or by what a single characters says? If you go by what a single character says... how can Shee really know that? He's not the Raikage, nor is he Minato.

@Owarij: I need a response to this. I want to know if you do or don't understand why the Manga is misinterpreted a lot.

 

[Owarij]

What Shee said can be misinterpreted. He could have said that Minato's reflexes are on par with Raikage Base. He could have said that Raikage V2 reflexes are greater than Minato's because of V2. He could have said that Minato's reflexes are on par to Raikage V2, but since he's covered in Lighting Chakra, the Sharingan would not be able to read his movements because it disturbs the way the Sharingan reads his movements.

And do you go by what the broad Manga says... or by what a single characters says? If you go by what a single character says... how can Shee really know that? He's not the Raikage, nor is he Minato.

Do you have any reason to doubt shee? Did he not have information on Itachi's capabilities with amaterasu? etc? would he just randomly blurt out nonsense to himself? Basic english skills would show shee is comparing minato to base A , then talking about how when raikage further enhances his speed and reflexes, sharingan can't keep up

 

[ReapTermin]

Do you have any reason to doubt shee? Did he not have information on Itachi's capabilities with amaterasu? etc? would he just randomly blurt out nonsense to himself? Basic english skills would show shee is comparing minato to base A , then talking about how when raikage further enhances his speed and reflexes, sharingan can't keep up

This is the same thing as when Dan said that only Hashirama can defeat Madara. Dan didn't know about Madara having the Rinnegan, nor does Shee know about Minato. And you know that Shee did not specifically said anything about Raikage V2 or Raikage Base. Things are almost always misinterpreted... and you know that.

I doubt Shee the same way as I doubt Dan.

 

[UzumakiNaruto20]

I disagree wholeheartedly with this thread. Based on what Nagato said Amaterasu can be sensed through a change in air pressure, which is way more time than Minato needs to counter the attack.