Minato cannot beat Adult Obito

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The Necromancer

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Obito had no chance to begin with when alive Minato probably had comparable reflexes to Jubi Jin Obito

Please. You are aware Sasuke's 3T precog gave him the ability to dodge Ay's strike as well, right?

BM Naruto is leagues above the KCM Naruto that got around Ay, and Obito's reflexes were shown to be leagues above even that.

It's like you don't read the same manga.
 

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Minato beat a 14 year old kid..
He's already marked? Obito's actions is what killed minato, so he's alr dead..

Stop with the the BS. It would be a normal match. MS and rinnengan Obito would crush minato.
Since when does age mean anything? How old are Naruto and Sasuke right now and look at the opponents they've faced and overcome. Why don't you stop with the bs, only desperate people play the age card. It means absolutely nothing in this manga, kishi had made that perfectly clear.

Minato chose to die, he didn't have to, read the manga.

Obitos fighting style hasn't changed, his kamui is his only protection against minato, and it's countered.

In a normal match, minato wouldn't be under pressure of having to save his wife, village and son. In a normal match he wouldn't be in a rush to finish the fight quickly to go stop the nine tails. In a normal match, the intel would be even and not one sided in Obitos favour. In a normal match, minato would actually have the time to finish Obito for good and use his other techniques. Please stfu.
 

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FTG is faster but not even close to being better. Kamui is by far the best Jutsu in the manga.

FTG still beats 1 MS kamui by it being faster, so....
 

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Is that why he lost his arm to jyuubi Jin Obito?
He still reacted and partially dodged it, only losing his arm while being a edo weakened body, so alive Minato with a better body could have dodge it faster
 

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You realise Obito absorbed 6 Paths chakra from Madara Jin increasing his precognition sensing, speed and reaction feats right? You also realise that intangibility can be casted regardless of the speed of the opponent beforehand right?

Rikudou chakra doesn't give you precognition, sharingan can simply predict movements.

He's intangibility is just simply faster because it is instant.


Also nope, adult or not, the intangibility speed doesn't increase with age considering the Sharingan didn't change in form and casting speed while growing. If Obito's intangibility failed 16years prior, it would fail again

Obito's never been beaten in intangibility though...

Kamui speed has never been tested on ftg, the first time minato ftg Obito he didn't even use kamui yet.

Minato just beat him at reaction speed, when he got older that all changed.
 

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What you got wrong is that 1st, Edo Minato is weaker than Alive Minato. 2nd you say SM Minato like it was suppose to mean anything, Senjutsu enhances the body, Edo's are dead so their bodies can't be enhanced. Why do you think Madara didn't want to become the Juubi Jin as an Edo Tensei? Edo's can be Jinchuuriki as Minato is proof of that but they can't enhance their dead bodies unless they use chakra to enhance their physical capabilities like Tsunade's/Sakura's super strength, Raikage's Lightning Armor, or chakra in the feet to increase your speed.

Pa toad told Naruto Senjutsu awakens the body in a number of ways and we see Naruto's durability greatly enhanced as he fell from the mountain onto a bed of spikes and felt nothing. Also why Edo Madara's body is considered special, it was enhanced in the process of being created. All SM did was give Minato more chakra in the form of Senjutsu (his chakra+natural energy) and he had his chakra absorbed before that so he wouldn't have more chakra than he had arriving at the battle field.

Summary: Alive Minato>Edo SM Minato. Alive Minato>Obito who was trained by Madara, have a better S/T jutsu as stated by Minato, have Hashirama's DNA to boost stamina and power up jutsus, and have intel which all puts Minato at a disadvantage. Obito's only hope to beat Minato is to use Kamui, he knows this, anything else gets dodged or reflected back at himself.
 

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He still reacted and partially dodged it, only losing his arm while being a edo weakened body, so alive Minato with a better body could have dodge it faster

He practically had a Hashirama's body, so he's bidy isn't better than that.
 

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He practically had a Hashirama's body, so he's bidy isn't better than that.
Tobirama said Orochimaru's edos weren't at full power(they were close to it though)
 

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Since when does age mean anything? How old are Naruto and Sasuke right now and look at the opponents they've faced and overcome. Why don't you stop with the bs, only desperate people play the age card. It means absolutely nothing in this manga, kishi had made that perfectly clear.

Minato chose to die, he didn't have to, read the manga.

Obitos fighting style hasn't changed, his kamui is his only protection against minato, and it's countered.

In a normal match, minato wouldn't be under pressure of having to save his wife, village and son. In a normal match he wouldn't be in a rush to finish the fight quickly to go stop the nine tails. In a normal match, the intel would be even and not one sided in Obitos favour. In a normal match, minato would actually have the time to finish Obito for good and use his other techniques. Please stfu.

You know what's the second most hax juts behind Kamui? Rinnengan and Obito has both, minato only wins to his fans.
 

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FTG still beats 1 MS kamui by it being faster, so....

That's not even true...Lol

Obito only use kamui on minato once, which minato narrowly escaped.

He said next time he'll warp him as soon as he touched him.

Besides that kamui was never used on him again
 

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Tobirama said Orochimaru's edos weren't at full power(they were close to it though)

Close enough is not a problem when he has a better body than the one he had.. It was still strong enough for Hashirama to break free from EDO.
 

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That's not even true...Lol

Obito only use kamui on minato once, which minato narrowly escaped.

He said next time he'll warp him as soon as he touched him.

Besides that kamui was never used on him again

Yup. Plot made obito gloat instead of win, like he easily could have in that moment.
 

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Close enough is not a problem when he has a better body than the one he had.. It was still strong enough for Hashirama to break free from EDO.
Ginue when changing bodies with Goku obtained a better body but his power was nowhere near the original Goku. Worse than that, it was not even near his own original power. Understand?
 

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That's not even true...Lol

Obito only use kamui on minato once, which minato narrowly escaped.

He said next time he'll warp him as soon as he touched him.

Besides that kamui was never used on him again

Narrowly escaped =faster

lel are you seriously going to say Kamui is faster than FTG when not even DMS?
 

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Ginue when changing bodies with Goku obtained a better body but his power was nowhere near the original Goku. Worse than that, it was not even near his own original power. Understand?

This is not dbz
 

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This is not dbz
I know but i gave that example to show you how not being in your body can sometimes not give you access to your full strength and especially when in this case Orochimaru's jutsu was only close to perfect
 

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Narrowly escaped =faster

lel are you seriously going to say Kamui is faster than FTG when not even DMS?

Again faster to not mean better.
 
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