Minato cannot beat Adult Obito

[DHOH]

Ok so? I still stand by what I said before about FTG being faster than obito's reflexes.



I'm saying he only used it for Jins and the gedo. lel

Again, you're saying he can't use rinnengan abilities?

 

[VongolaX]

Yes and? FTG warps the user to mark, Obito has zero feats bar juubito of dodging the slash of this proximity or are you saying he can?



What am I ignoring then? Rinnegan obito without jins does what?

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Fast enough to out speed yes? Therefore faster..

DMS Kamui isn't even been brought up by me, as I am strictly talking about 1 MS kamui of adult Obito...

Faster? No

"Why?" He didn't warp him as soon as he touched him.

Meaning that he could of warped him even faster.

1 ms is being preached here, DMS is an understanding of how to use both eyes.

 

[V h o]

Again, you're saying he can't use rinnengan abilities?

No, the eye is clearly there.

You're moving up the list of dumbest members here.

I already explained that FTG does not make you inherently faster, nor does it increase reflexes. You've circled back to the previously debunked debate. U_U

You must be confused as I have already said what FTG does, which involves nothing on increased reflexes, yet you continue to bring up something no one has said. Like seriously?

Obito can not dodge FTG slash bar being juubito, which is what I've been saying. :|

 

[DHOH]

No, the eye is clearly there.



You must be confused as I have already said what FTG does, which involves nothing on increased reflexes, yet you continue to bring up something no one has said. Like seriously?

Obito can not dodge FTG slash bar being juubito, which is what I've been saying. :|

Ok I'm done.. You're acting to much like a blond at the moment.

 

[VongolaX]

Again, you're saying he can't use rinnengan abilities?

We already saw him use it on JJ Madara, so there is no need to argue with him on that.

 

[Great Master Minato]

People Need To Understand FTG > Any Variants Of Kamui In Term Of Speed & Minato's Reflexes/Reaction Time > Any Form Of Obito Except Juubi Jin...So He Ain't Beat Minato With Kamui...

 

[-immortal-]

he cannot lol GG DMS obitits

 

[The Necromancer]

No, the eye is clearly there.



You must be confused as I have already said what FTG does, which involves nothing on increased reflexes, yet you continue to bring up something no one has said. Like seriously?

Obito can not dodge FTG slash bar being juubito, which is what I've been saying. :|

HE CAN, BECAUSE HIS REFLEXES HAVE BEEN BETTER FOR YEARS.

Jesus. How many times do I have to say the same thing before you actually read it?

 

[ShiroT]

so because obito with rikudo chakra pierced madara, obito without it can? wow

 

[V h o]

HE CAN, BECAUSE HIS REFLEXES HAVE BEEN BETTER FOR YEARS.

Jesus. How many times do I have to say the same thing before you actually read it?

Because Obito after being Juubito is the same as war arc Obito :|

 

[5Gazer]

Minato>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>obito no other form of obito can beat minato beside JJ obito

 

[5Gazer]

Theirs no way in hell obito reflexes better then minato you gotta be really biase to think that

 

[VongolaX]

People Need To Understand FTG > Any Variants Of Kamui In Term Of Speed & Minato's Reflexes/Reaction Time > Any Form Of Obito Except Juubi Jin...So He Ain't Beat Minato With Kamui...

Lol 100% false, they're the same if anything.

Obito is faster than a juubi jinchuuriki, even Madara can attest to that.

Obito with kamui is faster but as a juubi jinchuuriki. he is stronger.

 

[Itachi Solo King]

Minato beats MS and Rinnegan obito .

 

[Bogard]

Jesus. Minato stated himself SM is not an ability he can use in battle. You're out of legs to stand on.

Yet he could use it instantly against Madara Jin

 

[The Necromancer]

Because Obito after being Juubito is the same as war arc Obito :|

No one is saying that whatsoever. Obito in base form with 1 MS has effortlessly dodged attacks comparable, and faster than Minato's striking speed, which is not instantaneous, like FTG.

To reiterate, FTG transport speed =/= minato's striking speed.
Let me put it another way, no matter how fast Minato can teleport to a location, his reflexes and striking speed are all that needs to be dodged. Do you finally get it?

If striking were instantaneous while using FTG, Madara would have been hit easily, but because Minato's reflexes and striking speed were not enough, Madara countered it despite the instantaneous travel.

Yet he could use it instantly against Madara Jin

Yes, it is an inconsistency. I think he knows his own limits, and that's why it was never used in life or in another battle. He was clearly out of options and desperate.

Despite using it for all of 5 seconds, he was still swatted away, while (admittedly a rikudou chakra enhanced) 1 MS Obito was able to dodge that same striking speed. Take away the SM and the Rikudou chakra, and the speeds would be decreased in the same amount, still leaving MS Obito's Kamuiing speed as faster than Minato's reflexes. (And that's giving Minato the edge, as SM directly increases one's reaction time, while Rikudou chakra does not.)

 

[VongolaX]

so because obito with rikudo chakra pierced madara, obito without it can? wow

With rikudou rods he can...

 

[Great Master Minato]

Obito's Reflexes/Reaction Time > Minato's Is Sig-Worthy Lol

 

[ShiroT]

No one is saying that whatsoever. Obito in base form with 1 MS has effortlessly dodged attacks comparable, and faster than Minato's striking speed, which is not instantaneous, like FTG.

To reiterate, FTG transport speed =/= minato's striking speed.
Let me put it another way, no matter how fast Minato can teleport to a location, his reflexes and striking speed are all that needs to be dodged. Do you finally get it?

If striking were instantaneous while using FTG, Madara would have been hit easily, but because Minato's reflexes and striking speed were not enough, Madara countered it despite the instantaneous travel.



Yes, it is an inconsistency. I think he knows his own limits, and that's why it was never used in life or in another battle. He was clearly out of options and desperate.

Despite using it for all of 5 seconds, he was still swatted away, while (admittedly a rikudou chakra enhanced) 1 MS Obito was able to dodge that same striking speed. Take away the SM and the Rikudou chakra, and the speeds would be decreased in the same amount, still leaving MS Obito's Kamuiing speed as faster than Minato's reflexes. (And that's giving Minato the edge, as SM directly increases one's reaction time, while Rikudou chakra does not.)

how would minato dodge something mid attack while going up against a stronger foe? so because obito WITH rikudo chakra reacted to an attack while standing still, it proves that regular obito has better reflexes then minato who was mid attack and fighting someone without being beefed u by sages energy. . .

the stuff people come up with

 

[Bogard]

Yes, it is an inconsistency. I think he knows his own limits, and that's why it was never used in life or in another battle. He was clearly out of options and desperate.

There was nothing inconsistent in it. If he could instantly enter SM(in less than a second) and use it in battle against Jubi Jin Madara, that means he can use it against Obito. Minato only mentioned the fact it takes him too much time to knead the chakra(talking in terms of quantity). He didn't say however that he can't knead small amount in time to make use of it in battle. It's in the long run that Minato wasn't finding SM appropriate. Not that he couldn't make use of it for short bursts if need arise. And even then, when he has the possibility to summon Pa and Ma, that problem can quickly be resolved

Despite using it for all of 5 seconds, he was still swatted away, while (admittedly a rikudou chakra enhanced) 1 MS Obito was able to dodge that same striking speed. Take away the SM and the Rikudou chakra, and the speeds would be decreased in the same amount, still leaving MS Obito's Kamuiing speed as faster than Minato's reflexes. (And that's giving Minato the edge, as SM directly increases one's reaction time, while Rikudou chakra does not.)

1MS Obito with Rikudo chakra increasing his precognition, speed, and reaction. Not to mention, he could have easily turn intangible beforehand. It's not like Madara can force Obito to become tangible