Yup. Exactly.
Susano'o, unlike most other jutsus, is never "finished" being created. Meaning it's always attached to the user's chakra network in some fashion.
No it's not. That's like saying you can put the user in genjutsu because one clone was caught in genjutsu. You are running out of straws here....
That's not fanfic, its common sense and deductive thinking. Did he not create a clone, and warp it, without being warped himself? He has selective warping feats. Susanoo though connected, is a separate barrier from the user, which is why they can be taken out of it.
So speculation. Got it.
The usual.
So what I said wasn't fact's? got it.
Chakra signature, not network, I'm going off your assumptions remember? So now Susanoo has a chakra network?
If it was, we wouldn't be talking, now would we?
Chakra network/signature whatever the terms are confusing. You said Minato had selective warping feats but thats only because he warped individuals who had different chakras all together. Susanoo is not comparable to a different individual person or a clone.
Susanoo is the users chakra manifested around them and connected to the level Sasuke "can feel his cells ache while using it".
Thus you replied "Minato can warp his clone so he can warp Susanoo"even though the clones warp itself. And no it's not the same in the context you're trying to apply it here.
Then you don't even realize how different a clone is from susanoo and steadily ignore it. Shadow clones have a seperate network of thier own and can actually be an exception to the rule.
Anyways your out of straws here man.
Minato teleports things based off chakra and signature, not network, that's my point
okay and the user and susanoo have the same chakra and signature. Honestly this is getting redundant and you're not bring up any new points here. Minatards can believe what they want tbh.
Don't try and spin this, you are the one who said Minato can't selectively teleport persons/jutsu's of the same chakra signature, I brought up an instance where he did, you just don't accept it, simple as that.
Lel whatever bro. Acting like shadow clones can't teleport itself tho right? We all know Minato can't do this shet so step into a vs thread with this and get your ass ripped for fanfic.
I never said shadowclones can't teleport themselves, I said they are of the same chakra signature, since they are also independent in mind and chakra network, its the same logic. Vs thread? Pointless. Haha you mad bro? I thought we were discussing? you can't be raging and shit when people differ with you.
You're just not making any sense now is all. so theres no point in continuing to argue when you kepp bringing up defeated points.
You failed at defeating anything, your only argument was that the clone teleported itself, and it has a seperate network, which really didn't touch anything I was conveying.
1. Can a user be taken out of his susanoo? Yes, check.
2. Did Minato not create a clone based off his own chakra signature, and warp it without being teleported along with it? Yes, check.
3. Did Minato not teleport Sasuke outside his susanoo in the scan? Yes.
Yet here we are.
Yes, that is common sense.Ahh I see what I've failed to also explain to you regarding the shadow clone bit. the fine mechanics of Hirashin is that the persons chakra has to be in direct contact with the target they want to teleport.
This would make sense if the clones were of an entirley different chakra make up, they're not. Same signature, seperate network. There is a reason why users can remember info and intel through clones once they poof.If the clones have a seperate chakra network that would mean the ability would work with the clones in respect to the same rule.
Its proof, you won't accept it.So in any instance of Minato teleporting a clone that's not proof he can seperate a user from susanoo....That's grasping straws.
Through chakra network? Of course not, through signature? Yes. Which is the whole point.Clones are not connected directly to the user
So does Minato teleport based off network or signature?otherwise Naruto's SM gathering clones would not need to be dispelled to gain the chakra, the Senjutsu chakra would travel immediately to both the original and every clone the original has made. But it doesn't.
Therefore there is an instance.Therefore, the rule does not apply. Therefore there is no instance of a 3rd party being teleported away from their own chakra. Therefore, you need a new argument.