Minato and Tobirama cannot defeat Uchiha Sasuke.

[SupErAkaTsuKI]

Minato wins this.. Tobirama is debatable..

Minato teleported JubiDama as if its nothing. I doubt if Sasuke's Susanoo covered with enton would be a problem. Also, Minato's FTG can choose what or what not to teleport with him. the moment they reappear, Sasuke is as good as dead.

But still, both are top tier shinobi. It could go either way!

 

[Solo]

Solo, out of curiosity...

What is your top 10?

I don't believe in a Top 10.. at least not in Naruto because it's constantly changing.

 

[Retsu]

No, that leaves them at a stalemate. If Sasuke guess where Minato will jump too, then victory is in his hand.

Tobirama would have to tag someone or something to jump. Unlike Minato who can throw around Kunai.

Both Minato and Tobirama have sensory techs, they can easily use guerilla tactics and cause Sasuke to use up chakra and then retreat and put there finger on the ground to know his location and such, and Tobirama seems to be quite proficient with clones, he could easily tag a few and have them set up around vantage points for an easy way to attack and retreat. And once again I'm not saying who actually wins, I'm just saying Susan does not guarantee Sasuke victory

 

[Naijakid]

1. Tobirama has Edit Tensei: Infinite Exploding Talismans. The blast was easily the size of the Bijuudams balls...add in large numbers of Edos and then do it.


2. FTG can be used to simply gu inside of it.


3. Suiton does not naturally trump Suiton. If Tobirams isn't touching the Suiton than Sasuke is only going to power up the jutsu coming at him. Yamato has already explained this.


One technique does not guarantee victory, and to base ones entire argument on such a concept is a poor choice.



Actually this would be a theoretical win. Just because shinobi can walk on water doesn't mean the automatically exist on top of water. Look at the invading force against Darui's division...weren't automatically on water. If Sasuke is teleported to the bottom of a lake he'd likely drown. More less an ocean.

EDIT TENSEI; really?? That made me to laff

 

[Fecal Matter]

Any sensor with goos skill can sence that Tobirama is a topdog when It come's to sensng...Even Shee from Cloud sensed how exactly Sasuke usng his Enton......'

He's good but not on Obito's level heck Obito knew which eye the Amaterasu comes from thus making things easier.

Tobirama's Shinshun is only second to Minato (and probably Ay) ..no need to mention that Tobirama had Intel on Enton.....

No this is how it goes: Bm Naruto shunshin> Km Naruto shunshin >>>>>> V2 Ay shunshin>Km Naruto enhanced speed = V1 Ay shunshin > Base Minato shunshin >>> tobirama shunshin

anyone below V2 ay cannot escape the sharingans line of sight.FACT

He can sense all he wants but he ain't reacting to it.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

Well sure. If it's 1v1 against Sasuke then they both lose. But if it's 2v1 then Sasuke loses. I'm not hatin or having a fangasm, just spittin out facts.

 

[Retsu]

He's good but not on Obito's level heck Obito knew which eye the Amaterasu comes from thus making things easier.

No this is how it goes: Bm Naruto shunshin> Km Naruto shunshin >>>>>> V2 Ay shunshin>Km Naruto enhanced speed = V1 Ay shunshin > Base Minato shunshin >>> tobirama shunshin

anyone below V2 ay cannot escape the sharingans line of sight.FACT

He can sense all he wants but he ain't reacting to it.

Ftg + sensory skills all but guarantees Tobirama will never be touched by amaterasu, and Minato reacted to Ay at top speed, something which Sasuke could not, and if Ay had enough time to react to those flames Minato definitely can as well, both of them should be able to counter amaterasu

 

[Avinash012]

He's good but not on Obito's level heck Obito knew which eye the Amaterasu comes from thus making things easier.

No this is how it goes: Bm Naruto shunshin> Km Naruto shunshin >>>>>> V2 Ay shunshin>Km Naruto enhanced speed = V1 Ay shunshin > Base Minato shunshin >>> tobirama shunshin

anyone below V2 ay cannot escape the sharingans line of sight.FACT

He can sense all he wants but he ain't reacting to it.

As I have already told u Shi a low level sensor is able to sense Sasuke's attacks also Nagato is able to tell which attack is going to happen...Tobirama is dfntly on Nagato's level or probably better than Nagato.....'

There is no proof to say that Naruto's shunshin is better than Rikage ..learn the meaning of Shunshi...Rikage never used Shunshin against Naruto it is Naruto that used shunshin to defend himself from Rikage.....

Minato savng Naruto from Obito is the best shunshin feat.....

Naruto is dfntly faster than Rikage and Minato when it come's to base speed but that dosen't mean that he can use it better than they did....

 

[Fecal Matter]

Ftg + sensory skills all but guarantees Tobirama will never be touched by amaterasu,

What will he tag before he gets hit? the floor? get real his FTG won't save him unless he tagged another location.

and Minato reacted to Ay at top speed, something which Sasuke could not, and if Ay had enough time to react to those flames Minato definitely can as well

Where did i say Minato in my post? I'm talking about the overrated white haired man.

both of them should be able to counter amaterasu

Nope Tobirama's FTG won't change anything i've already proven how worthless it is unless he tags a different spot.

 

[Fecal Matter]

As I have already told u Shi a low level sensor is able to sense Sasuke's attacks also Nagato is able to tell which attack is going to happen...Tobirama is dfntly on Nagato's level or probably better than Nagato.....'

Agreed his sensing is probably on Nagato's level but it won't change the outcome.His shunshin isn't gonna evade amaterasu until proven otherwise.

There is no proof to say that Naruto's shunshin is better than Rikage ..learn the meaning of Shunshi...Rikage never used Shunshin against Naruto it is Naruto that used shunshin to defend himself from Rikage.....

Tells me to learn about shunshin yet you say Ay didn't use his shunshin.smh

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He came at him full speed now look how far away Naruto was from the wall then look a the distance in the next link.

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Naruto used his shunshin which completely outclassed ay's to the point where he did a full 180.

Minato savng Naruto from Obito is the best shunshin feat.....

Naruto is dfntly faster than Rikage and Minato when it come's to base speed but that dosen't mean that he can use it better than they did....

My post before = Naruto's shunshin is faster = Correct.Thanks for proving me right.Its funny how you have yet to counter how Tobirama dodges amaterasu and most of what you said has nothing to do with Tobirama himself.

 

[Retsu]

What will he tag before he gets hit? the floor? get real his FTG won't save him unless he tagged another location.

Where did i say Minato in my post? I'm talking about the overrated white haired man.

Nope Tobirama's FTG won't change anything i've already proven how worthless it is unless he tags a different spot.

Well he could tag a spot beforehand, especially since he's seen sasuke use it, but even without knowledge tobirama has been shown to be very keen when it comes to battle tactics, you act as if it's unthinkable that he could mark somewhere nearby beforehand, and he's also really good with shadow clones, he coul easily make a few and tag them to switch himself in and out of combat as neccesary. his ftg is just as viable as Minatos.

 

[Avinash012]

Agreed his sensing is probably on Nagato's level but it won't change the outcome.His shunshin isn't gonna evade amaterasu until proven otherwise.

Tells me to learn about shunshin yet you say Ay didn't use his shunshin.smh

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He came at him full speed now look how far away Naruto was from the wall then look a the distance in the next link.

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Naruto used his shunshin which completely outclassed ay's to the point where he did a full 180.

My post before = Naruto's shunshin is faster = Correct.Thanks for proving me right.Its funny how you have yet to counter how Tobirama dodges amaterasu and most of what you said has nothing to do with Tobirama himself.

U didn't get a thing what I have told u .....

Let me tel u an exaple Hanzo dodged Nagato's dragon by usng Shunshin but he can't actually run faster than that Dragon if the Dragon Pursue him...That is the dif b/w Rikage's attack and his Shinshun.....

Even Gaara's sand which is slower than Madara(see Episode no 322) is able to block Amaterasu ,what is the point of sayng Tobirama can't dodge it even after knwng that he is sensor and one of the fastest...

 

[Percy Jackson]

They both lack the feats to destroy a Susano'o.

People would say FTG the Susano'o away, GGs. FTG wouldn't teleport the Susano'o away. Sasuke would simply teleport with the entire Susano'o. Teleporting him to different spot isn't a win.

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show that Sasuke and Susano'o went with him. If it was just Sasuke that teleport his Susano'o would have still be there in spot Minato teleported him from.

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Therefore, Minato or Tobirama cannot beat Sasuke until they show an attack that could rip through Susano'o

Bonus: Tobirama is a water user and Sasuke is a Lightning user.

Surely they don't have a manga fact to prove they can destroy susano. But sasuke also have no manga prove that his susano can last VERY long.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Ok. Look at the scans that you showed.

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Sasuke didn't reappear with the susanoo. FTG is instant, so Sasuke couldn't have deactivated it willingly. This can only mean that FTG gets rid of susanoo somehow. It's possible that inter-dimensional-travel cuts of susanoo from its chakra source(the user.) Also, What's stopping Minato from throwing a kunai to the susanoo's shell and using FTG LV2 to teleport inside of it?

They have other methods as well. Tobirama can most likely destroy susanoo using edo bombs. Minato has that other jutsu that he has yet to show, which must be powerful if he planned to get past Obito's defenses. Both of these jutsus could potentially destroy susanoo.

 

[Percy Jackson]

U didn't get a thing what I have told u .....

Let me tel u an exaple Hanzo dodged Nagato's dragon by usng Shunshin but he can't actually run faster than that Dragon if the Dragon Pursue him...That is the dif b/w Rikage's attack and his Shinshun.....

Even Gaara's sand which is slower than Madara(see Episode no 322) is able to block Amaterasu ,what is the point of sayng Tobirama can't dodge it even after knwng that he is sensor and one of the fastest...

Yeah.. even Sasuke without using bodyflicker can still run while Amaterasu is on the move trying to catching up with him. Amaterasu is fast but not instance. Tobirama using bodyflicker to step aside can dodge Amaterasu. Minato can do it better

 

[ShiroShonen]

Susanoo does not guarantee victory for Sasuke and all they need to do is avoid it, which they both can easily do using ftg. Susan takes chakra to both use and maintain and all one had to do is let Sasuke tire himself out, not to mention the fact that both Minato and Tobirama both utilize shadows clones, which can easily set up an opening with ftg, not saying they can beat him, but it's not like Susan guarantees him victory, it could go either way

Susan? XD XD

 

[Mishima]

Yes, I agree with you. But if it was a 2v1 then unfortunately Sasuke losses.

 

[TobiramaSageMode]

Tobirama use to own a lighting blade.

 

[Smd]

duhhhhhhhh

 

[moyo]

izuna also had susanoo