Minato and Jiraiya vs Uchiha Bro's

[icha icha naruto]

hiruzen in his late stages was able to keep up with edo hashirama who fought madara and his speed ,strength and stamina are 3.
Hashirama fought MS madara , considered as the best of the uchiha.
So I think Minato and Jiraiya can win this with high difficulty at max.

 

[bricknology]

jiraiya has never heard of amaterasu and how will he counter genjutsu and susanoo same for minato. And people actually think minato could solo both. the definition of a fanboy

if you dont have extensive research on naruto dont post, jiraiya sealed amaterasu in his scroll that he carries on his back when they met in that lodge when sasuke was a kid, remember someone whose born wid gifts (uchiha bros) cant be compared to someone who makes moves minato

 

[MangekyouJ]

You guys do know Minato has to throw one of his kunais to teleport to it. How is he gonna do that before getting hit by a susanoo arrow? Also another method for FTG is to place markings on whereever you plan to teleport to and who's gonna give Minato the time to mark his seals all over the place? So FTG is out of the question. Minato is slaughtered by Sasuke or better yet, Jaraiya will try and save him and the arrow will peirce clean through both of em' and make it a bouble kill.

Jaraiya has a chance though. If he can summon the three great toads to occupy Itachi's and Sasuke's susanoo while he charges sage mode,he may be able to enter it. And (If the toads arent already dead or sealed) stall even more time to summon Ma andPa and initiate the toad song genjutsu.

You do realize the time it takes Sasuke to get into Susanoo, Minato would have scattered a great amount of kunai's right??

WTH am I READING..... Sasuke > Minato???? You just spoke volumes of fanboyism.....would you please stop suckin the Uchiha sac for just 2 seconds and think logically...Jiraiya won't have to save Minato at all....

Minato defeated Tobi....within minutes of the fight he had with him....Tobi was without a doubt stronger and faster than Sasuke and Minato DESTROYED him with a Rasengan.

Still pulling that Genjutsu crap outta your arse huh.....Or did you forget that Minato was the hokage....Jiraiya is a Sannin....Think they don't have knowledge to know NOT to look them in the eyes??

Where the hell do you all get "charging" for SM??? He doesn't have to charge nothing....Ma and Pa are the ones that stand still while he fights....

Ok I get it....you really can't tell fanboys sh!t.....:scorps:

 

[Minator93]

Maybe this:

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(As Jiraya says, "hope they enjoy being food to Iwagama")
Susanoo or not he was completly traped here. Susanoo can't protect from underground. So he could have traped by the stomach jutsu from underground.

Itachi seemed really confident here. When Jiraya says they can't catch Naruto, Itachi says: "why not?"

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And then Jiraya says it's because he will kill them both. He doesn't fear Itachi at all, even if he is with Kisame.

And he is already aware of his sharingan technics here:

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But he managed to nullify that. And he was looking at Itachi all the time without stress.

Instead of that, when Itachi has seen they've gotten trap, he said to Kisame to get out of there:

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But he failed to notice it in time because they walls was closing really fast, too fast for them like Kisame noticed it here:

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And that's why Itachi needs to use Amaterasu, either way, he would have get caught and could have finish in Iwagamas stomach.

And after that, Itachi needs to have some rest when Jiraya had even done nothing:

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And Jiraya even has a counter to Amaterasu as you can see here:

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So as you can see, Itachi already needed to rest when Jiraya hadn't even done nothing. As he said himself, Jiraya is powerful than them.

+rep :scorps:

 

[Fearmonger]

Even if he doesn't have time to set up his tags, with his reflexes superior than even from the Raikage, he will be able to dodge at the last moment like he did here:

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Raikage was almost touching his nose, but he was able to pass a kunai over him, and then he teleports 2times even before the Raikage had ended his run.
Like here too:

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"He must almost caught by Tobis chain here but in an instant he managed to teleport himself either way".

Like here too:

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Again at the last moment when Tobi almost touched him, he teleports himself.

No one has better reflexes than Minato.
Either way Minato is the best in the last moment in timings attacks. :scorps:

Hmm,I see. But this is where Sasuke's blaze release and susanoo rib cage come into play. If Minato manages to tag Sasuke (say on the chest) and comes in for a back attack Sasuke could use his susanoo ribcage to sheild him from the FTG kunai then uses blaze release: kagutsuchi to attack. Minato then throws a kunai at the last instant to dodge. He then quikly teleports in front of Sasuke and slashes him which kills him. But as he does this Sasuke just dissappears and the real Sasuke is right behind him and slashes Minato in half with his sword of kusanagi. This happened because Minato got caught in Sasuke's imperfect tsukuyomi which happened once Minato teleported in front of Sasuke to attack him. Sasuke used his tsukuyomi to make it appear as if Sasuke was still standing there and didnt dodge at all.

See,Minato's flaw is Sasuke's imperfect tsukuyomi. Minato never faught an MS user before and even if he did Sasuke's tsukuyomi is unique.

You do realize the time it takes Sasuke to get into Susanoo, Minato would have scattered a great amount of kunai's right??

WTH am I READING..... Sasuke > Minato???? You just spoke volumes of fanboyism.....would you please stop suckin the Uchiha sac for just 2 seconds and think logically...Jiraiya won't have to save Minato at all....

Minato defeated Tobi....within minutes of the fight he had with him....Tobi was without a doubt stronger and faster than Sasuke and Minato DESTROYED him with a Rasengan.

Still pulling that Genjutsu crap outta your arse huh.....Or did you forget that Minato was the hokage....Jiraiya is a Sannin....Think they don't have knowledge to know NOT to look them in the eyes??

Where the hell do you all get "charging" for SM??? He doesn't have to charge nothing....Ma and Pa are the ones that stand still while he fights....

Ok I get it....you really can't tell fanboys sh!t.....:scorps:

I apolagize if im coming off as a fanboy but what I put is what I know or estimate from prior knowledge. As stated by Blaze Release many times on naruto discussion,not looking at Sasuke's eyes will leave them open for Amaterasu or an attack from Susanoo. Also Tobi wasn't "DESTROYED" by the rasengan,he got injured then retreated because Kurama wasn't under his controll anymore. Also sage mode does need to charge,don't you remember when Jaraiya was riding around on top of Gamaken while he gathered nature chakra and Gamaken dealt with the three headed multiplying dog? The only reason I beleive Sasuke is more powerfull than Minato is because Naruto has far surpassed Minato and Sasuke is equal in power to Naruto so

Naruto=Sasuke + Naruto>>Minato= Sasuke >> Minato

Forgive me if I'm starting to beleive that your the fanboy here.

 

[MangekyouJ]

Hmm,I see. But this is where Sasuke's blaze release and susanoo rib cage come into play. If Minato manages to tag Sasuke (say on the chest) and comes in for a back attack Sasuke could use his susanoo ribcage to sheild him from the FTG kunai then uses blaze release: kagutsuchi to attack. Minato then throws a kunai at the last instant to dodge. He then quikly teleports in front of Sasuke and slashes him which kills him. But as he does this Sasuke just dissappears and the real Sasuke is right behind him and slashes Minato in half with his sword of kusanagi. This happened because Minato got caught in Sasuke's imperfect tsukuyomi which happened once Minato teleported in front of Sasuke to attack him. Sasuke used his tsukuyomi to make it appear as if Sasuke was still standing there and didnt dodge at all.

See,Minato's flaw is Sasuke's imperfect tsukuyomi. Minato never faught an MS user before and even if he did Sasuke's tsukuyomi is unique.



I apolagize if im coming off as a fanboy but what I put is what I know or estimate from prior knowledge. As stated by Blaze Release many times on naruto discussion,not looking at Sasuke's eyes will leave them open for Amaterasu or an attack from Susanoo. Also Tobi wasn't "DESTROYED" by the rasengan,he got injured then retreated because Kurama wasn't under his controll anymore. Also sage mode does need to charge,don't you remember when Jaraiya was riding around on top of Gamaken while he gathered nature chakra and Gamaken dealt with the three headed multiplying dog? The only reason I beleive Sasuke is more powerfull than Minato is because Naruto has far surpassed Minato and Sasuke is equal in power to Naruto so

Naruto=Sasuke + Naruto>>Minato= Sasuke >> Minato

Forgive me if I'm starting to beleive that your the fanboy here.

....Hehe.....let me put this in words not to insult you....but to let you know that some of you "prior knowledge" is as speculated at best. Blaze Release may have said not looking into the eyes....but the face is comprised of much more than just the eye....you can focus on the nose and still see easily that there's blood coming from a persons' eye...the telltale of Amaterasu.

Susanoo has only one telltale....that it can't or hasn't been used in/at high speeds. How will anyone know when Minato uses the FTG??? Even if Tobi knew that he'd been hit with the seal, there's no way that he'd know when Minato would use it... No one does. Minato is a LOT smarter than sasuke, maybe equal or a little bit smarter than Itachi.

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If this isn't being DESTROYED for someone who claimed to be smart...then what is???

Maybe if the OP was specific to what we know about Minato, but we currently don't know much at all....The Rasengan was still incompleted, but at the same time it was complete enough to be a Rank A jutsu...we don't know what his nature of chakra or any of his affinities....so for those who just assume that the Uchiha's would win....completely just disregarded why Kishi made him the great shinobi.....:scorps:

No I'm far from a fanboy, I don't take favorites to characters...only the facts...:scorps:

 

[Fearmonger]

....Hehe.....let me put this in words not to insult you....but to let you know that some of you "prior knowledge" is as speculated at best. Blaze Release may have said not looking into the eyes....but the face is comprised of much more than just the eye....you can focus on the nose and still see easily that there's blood coming from a persons' eye...the telltale of Amaterasu.

Susanoo has only one telltale....that it can't or hasn't been used in/at high speeds. How will anyone know when Minato uses the FTG??? Even if Tobi knew that he'd been hit with the seal, there's no way that he'd know when Minato would use it... No one does. Minato is a LOT smarter than sasuke, maybe equal or a little bit smarter than Itachi.

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If this isn't being DESTROYED for someone who claimed to be smart...then what is???

Maybe if the OP was specific to what we know about Minato, but we currently don't know much at all....The Rasengan was still incompleted, but at the same time it was complete enough to be a Rank A jutsu...we don't know what his nature of chakra or any of his affinities....so for those who just assume that the Uchiha's would win....completely just disregarded why Kishi made him the great shinobi.....:scorps:

No I'm far from a fanboy, I don't take favorites to characters...only the facts...:scorps:

Ha! That gif made me laugh!

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You got me on the Amaterasu blood give away but not all susanoo attacks are slow. Susanoo arrow for example. A man highly known for his amazing speed had to resort to kamui to avoid it and Sasuke's eyes weren't bleeding then. Also it doesn't make a sound until it's released from the bow and by then it's too late.

The reason I wouldn't count that rasengan as destruction is because Tobi was still able to get back up like nothing happened then take his time warping away like a baws.. Now something I would count as destruction is when Sasuke crushed Danzo to a puddle of blood with his susanoo. The only reason that fight continued was because of izanagi.

 

[gazmatic]

I cant believe this is even a debate. Let me state from the beginning. I am a HUGE Itachi fan... but I want to know how Itachi and sasuke can beat Minato and Jaraiya? HOW???

Minato>Jaraiya>Itachi>Sasuke
Jaraiya>Sasuke

Hiruzen>Harashima>Tobimaru>Minato>Tsunade

Jaraiya= Itachi + Kisame

Sasuke +/- Naruto

Jaraiya>Naruto Jaraiya<naruto depends on where you compare them in the manga. The first one is it the time of his death. the second after Naruto gain BM

Itachi himself stated that with Kisame they could only hopee to equal Jaraiya aka defeat him.

Kishi himself(the author of the series) stated that the third hokage is the strongest when he was in his prime. The 4th HAD great potential but never surpassed him. what I want to debate you Diehard Sasuke fans is if Sasuke>tsunade? Bear in mind from manga tsunade>Jaraiya.
Jariaya stated that he was close to death twice. 2 people almost killed him. Naruto + tsunade.

another question... Itachi>Pein?


Best case scenario for uchiha bros... Sasuke EMS + Itcachi EMS...can anyone really honestly say(no fanboyism) that Itachi and sasuke with such powerful eye techniques can withstand a test of endurance against JARAIYA??? SM? can anyone honest;y tell me that the battle would be over in less than two minutes? Jaraiya is fast. read the data books. i wont comment on minato speed. both have powerful seal techniques capable of sealing amaratsu... how is this battle winnable for uchi bros?

 

[gazmatic]

Amaturasu - Dodged by Minato, more than likely hits Jiraiya.

Tsukuyomi - Ma and Pa would be useless, because Jiraiya would have already of taken the affects of the genjutsu before they could react to it. Tsukuyomi only last a second in the real world, which is not enough time for Ma and Pa to snap him out.

Susano'o - I don't remember any of them having wind. Also Itachi can block the wind with the shield.

Taijutsu - Itachi's speed, skill and stealth are more than enough to keep up with either Minato or Jiraiya in taijutsu. Sasuke also has great speed and the chidori sword.

This is a really close match, but I think Itachi and Sasuke would win this with high difficulty or tie.

you obviously didnt read this....Re: Minato and Jiraiya vs Uchiha Bro's
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Originally Posted by Makoto Uchiha
what could jiraya possibly use against itachi
Maybe this:

(As Jiraya says, "hope they enjoy being food to Iwagama")
Susanoo or not he was completly traped here. Susanoo can't protect from underground. So he could have traped by the stomach jutsu from underground.

Itachi seemed really confident here. When Jiraya says they can't catch Naruto, Itachi says: "why not?"


And then Jiraya says it's because he will kill them both. He doesn't fear Itachi at all, even if he is with Kisame.

And he is already aware of his sharingan technics here:

But he managed to nullify that. And he was looking at Itachi all the time without stress.

Instead of that, when Itachi has seen they've gotten trap, he said to Kisame to get out of there:


But he failed to notice it in time because they walls was closing really fast, too fast for them like Kisame noticed it here:


And that's why Itachi needs to use Amaterasu, either way, he would have get caught and could have finish in Iwagamas stomach.

And after that, Itachi needs to have some rest when Jiraya had even done nothing:



And Jiraya even has a counter to Amaterasu as you can see here:



So as you can see, Itachi already needed to rest when Jiraya hadn't even done nothing. As he said himself, Jiraya is powerful than them.
Last edited by Bogard; 04-13-2012 at 05:04 PM..

originally posted by bogard

 

[gazmatic]

Hmm,I see. But this is where Sasuke's blaze release and susanoo rib cage come into play. If Minato manages to tag Sasuke (say on the chest) and comes in for a back attack Sasuke could use his susanoo ribcage to sheild him from the FTG kunai then uses blaze release: kagutsuchi to attack. Minato then throws a kunai at the last instant to dodge. He then quikly teleports in front of Sasuke and slashes him which kills him. But as he does this Sasuke just dissappears and the real Sasuke is right behind him and slashes Minato in half with his sword of kusanagi. This happened because Minato got caught in Sasuke's imperfect tsukuyomi which happened once Minato teleported in front of Sasuke to attack him. Sasuke used his tsukuyomi to make it appear as if Sasuke was still standing there and didnt dodge at all.

See,Minato's flaw is Sasuke's imperfect tsukuyomi. Minato never faught an MS user before and even if he did Sasuke's tsukuyomi is unique.



I apolagize if im coming off as a fanboy but what I put is what I know or estimate from prior knowledge. As stated by Blaze Release many times on naruto discussion,not looking at Sasuke's eyes will leave them open for Amaterasu or an attack from Susanoo. Also Tobi wasn't "DESTROYED" by the rasengan,he got injured then retreated because Kurama wasn't under his controll anymore. Also sage mode does need to charge,don't you remember when Jaraiya was riding around on top of Gamaken while he gathered nature chakra and Gamaken dealt with the three headed multiplying dog? The only reason I beleive Sasuke is more powerfull than Minato is because Naruto has far surpassed Minato and Sasuke is equal in power to Naruto so

Naruto=Sasuke + Naruto>>Minato= Sasuke >> Minato

Forgive me if I'm starting to beleive that your the fanboy here.

Really?????? obviously.....sorry. sorry. sorry. but u HAVE to be stupid. minato neverfought a MS user before... was he or was he not the hokage? how did he kno about madara? when he fought tobi where did all that info about madara come from? out of his bumhole! if he was hokage that means that he had access to a wealth of information as being the top ni66@ in the village. can u tell me dat even after becoming head honcho... no one would tell him anything? its not like the uchihas are from the land of wood and water or from the sugar country(totally made up to highlight the ridiculous nature of your post) can u say dat he was NEVER informed about MS users wher Madara, the supposedly strongest uchiha planned on takin out harashima? is tobi madara? dat is for u to answer. another question. is this true Minato>tobi? what do u say about this itachi>tobi? or Sasuke>tobi? what about Itachi + sasuke>tobi? correct me if I am wrong but isnt it... Minato>Tobi>itachi>sasuke? from the manag. no hyped up fanboyism nonsense.

 

[Fearmonger]

Really?????? obviously.....sorry. sorry. sorry. but u HAVE to be stupid. minato neverfought a MS user before... was he or was he not the hokage? how did he kno about madara? when he fought tobi where did all that info about madara come from? out of his bumhole! if he was hokage that means that he had access to a wealth of information as being the top ni66@ in the village. can u tell me dat even after becoming head honcho... no one would tell him anything? its not like the uchihas are from the land of wood and water or from the sugar country(totally made up to highlight the ridiculous nature of your post) can u say dat he was NEVER informed about MS users wher Madara, the supposedly strongest uchiha planned on takin out harashima? is tobi madara? dat is for u to answer. another question. is this true Minato>tobi? what do u say about this itachi>tobi? or Sasuke>tobi? what about Itachi + sasuke>tobi? correct me if I am wrong but isnt it... Minato>Tobi>itachi>sasuke? from the manag. no hyped up fanboyism nonsense.

Spare me the BS and just give me the manga page where he fights someone with MS.

 

[tomer3x3]

Minato and J-man high difficulty

 

[BloodSeed]

jiraiya can go sage mode easily since minato could just teleport him away go back with sage mode. and make swamp of the underworld and if their sinking is slow summon gumabunta for a food cart destroyer :rofl: