I can't understand why some of you guys can take some statements from the mangas literally, go to great lengths to interprete others then go on and downplay people who did the same and came up with different conclusions. It has been 6 pages of "My interpretation is better than yours". A debate is supposed to be productive. Just saying.
[Discussion] Mihawk is>Shanks right?
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SAmIDeXtEr
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Shanks blocked wb's swing, a feat no one else has been shown to accomplish
Shanks blocks akainu's punch effortlessly with that same hand
Losing an arm doesn't make u entirely useless
With enough discipline, that arm could become 10times more powerful than both arms together (well in animation, probably not real life)
Either that or shanks been busy fapping lol
Shanks blocks akainu's punch effortlessly with that same hand
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Losing an arm doesn't make u entirely useless
With enough discipline, that arm could become 10times more powerful than both arms together (well in animation, probably not real life)
Either that or shanks been busy fapping lol
KingHashirama
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But then you ignored Mihawk not interested in Shanks, due to him having only 1-arm..
And are you implying that Shanks thought he could beat the Marines and the warlords by himself? Cause i'm sure hes not that idiotic.
The whole Mihawk "I'm not fighting an one armed man" sounds more like a stab towards an old friend to me.
You must be joking if Mihawk actually thinks Shanks isn't a worthy sparring partner any more, while he was willing to fight with pre-skip fodder Zoro.
You must be joking if Mihawk actually thinks Shanks isn't a worthy sparring partner any more, while he was willing to fight with pre-skip fodder Zoro.
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Aokiji stops it[
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]Akainu stops it[
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]Kizaru holds down his Bisento, preventing a swing[
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]Yes especially if it would mean that Mihawk might have a shot at winning now.
And they're more friends than rivals, of course they would still be sparring. After all Shanks is still one of the 4 strongest people alive, why would Mihawk be so cocky to think that he's not worth fighting him anymore. Mihawk fought a shit load of people who Shanks would crush with his little finger. So the whole point of not fighting because of the power difference is crap.
KingHashirama
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"sparring".. YES YES, because in a middle of a freaking battle you Spar. Shanks asked if he wanted to fight.. not spar. Mihawk said he had no interest in a man with 1-arm.. Considering hes the WSS, and their duels were of swordsmanship in the past, kind of implies he won them.
It can simply be he doesn't want to kill Shanks. But oh no, that can't be it, because that'd imply Mihawk > Shanks right?
No you mong, don't pull the image out of context.
This was a friendly meeting where Mihawk came to show Luffy's wanted poster and Shanks invited him for a drink. There was no intent to fight at all. So yes it's not a 'freaking battle' it would be sparring.
And as I already said since it's a meeting between two old friends the whole line about not dueling with a one armed man feels more like a cheeky stab at Shanks. And on the previous pages I already said that Mihawk's swordsmanship is probably better, but I also said that doesn't matter that he would win the fight.
Mihawk only showed so far he is top tier in the war of the best, however he has't shown anything that puts him on a whole other level than an admiral or let alone whitebeard. He was impressive but never gave off the impression that he would be unbeatable if any one would challenge him. Vista and Jozu both held their own against him. Pretty sure Shanks the yonkou with hype since chapter 1 is more than some handicapped pirate with a sword.
Now go make some more assumptions naive little troll
KingHashirama
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Shanks has no hype since freaking chapter 1, wtf. His hype literally started when Garp mentioned him as a Yonko. Making up more bullshit.
He is the strongest swordsman in the world, thats enough to put him on Admiral/Yonko level. If you need something else to be spoon-fed to you, then don't reply to me.
And If you gonna reply to me, act like a ****ing adult, instead of a little childish troll on the internet, who gets offended over freaking anime opinions. When he doesn't even know what a ****ing spar is.
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Dude just piss off, You're the obvious troll.
You make nothing but assumptions, you don't have any facts to back it up. And when I call you out on it you act like this. And try to get away with your lame ass comments by making it personal and trying to discredit me. It just won't work.
Also look at your post, very mature, great example.
Hype starts when you're the role model of a shonen protagonist. Don't tell me that Shanks before Water 7 where Garp came along didn't have any hype. But chances are good you weren't around to read the manga back than while I was.
I said he was on admiral level maybe try to read before you start to rage when people shit on your baseless argumentation. So you can stick that spoon somewhere else.
The fact that you're back paddling really hard and focusing on the word spar proves me right that the way how you called it 'the middle of a freaking battle' was pulling shit out of context. And the word spar according to the dictionary is:
Which sounds exactly like two friends would do, and not trying to slit each others throats 'in the middle of a freaking battle'.
Change your username, you're no king, you're the fool of this forum. your job is to entertain the king.
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KingHashirama
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- replies to me
- tells me to piss off
- calls me a troll for sharing my opinion on a forum that is there for sharing opinions
Such a smart guy you are.
I'm not the one claiming Mihawk is more of Shank's friend, than a rival.. when their duels are famous around the world. And when the very first thing Shanks asks is if Mihawk came for a fight. Talk about assumption.
Yea it is very mature. Because you wanted to talk shit to somebody, and now that somebody talked shit back to you. Since you don't have a mature mind to have a civil discussion.
" he has't shown anything that puts him on a whole other level than an admiral or let alone whitebeard." Whitebeard is admiral level, yet you claimed "let alone Whitebeard" in a way that he isn't on Whitebeard's level. Unless you are one of those idiotic Yonko fanboys, who think Yonko are on another level compared to the admirals.
"hype starts when you're the role model of a shonen protagonist".. sadly it doesn't start then. Being a role model has nothing to do with strength. As Shanks was not a Yonko at that time, and his strength was not at the caliber that it is at right now. But of course, you have proof that Shanks was Yonko level at that time correct?
Go learn what back paddling is. And "focusing on the word spar".. yea, since your entire premise in trying to disprove the statement made by Mihawk relies on the notion that why would Shanks not be good enough for Mihawk to spar against.
You must have a very special friendship with your friends.. because sure in hell my friends don't tell me "I'm not in the mood, so you came here for a fight"?
And yea asking if somebody is there for a fight, is asking them to spar.. you are so bright. Freaking Phd man. Well done.
awww look at you trying to insult people still, and just showing how you aren't mature enough for a freaking a discussion. And especially considering I'm not the only one you insult on this forum.
A fool , who knows what hes talking about, is much better than King who is drowned in his ego. So i'll be the fool of this forum, no problem. Its not hurting me so I could careless. Just like you can continue to act like an idiot with another stupid reply of immaturity. Continue.....
But, I do want to apologize for not having the ability to ****-ride the Yonko, and in this case shanks. Because I am fool among fool, for not being able to ride Shanks man. I'm so sorry. But it probably won't happen ever.
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Have you considered the reason he doesn't fight is Honour? If you get beaten by a guy with two arms, and he then looses an arm, it's not going to bring you any honour if you then beat him with one arm.
KingHashirama
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I have considered that, but the issue is:
He lost to a swordsman, but is still the strongest swordsman? that wouldn't make any sense. Then that translates into Zoro's actual goal being Shanks. Since Shanks beat Mihawk in a duel, no? The only way Mihawk can be the strongest swordsman is, if hes superior to Shanks in his duels.
You said nothing again. Everything your entire little theory is made of is hanging of the smallest of threads on how you would interpret Shanks' words.
So let me close off with this:
Would a rival just drop by to show Luffy's wanted poster or is that something a friend would do ?
Would rivals joke at each other after not seeing each other for a while or is that something a friend would do ?
Would a rival sit down and drink a beer or is that something friends would do ?
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Just drop the whole 'Shanks was serious about the fight' thing. Mihawk just made fun about his arm. Of course he would duel Shanks if Shanks got serious.
And then the thing that proves that you have a serious eye condition, still trying to claim that Shanks would lose based on that he is carrying a sword trying to judge him as a swordsman and therefore lose based on a title.
It's said at least 4 times in this thread that Shanks most likely has more tricks up his sleeve than being a one armed swordsman.
Also calling me a yonkou fanboy while you're trying to claim a shichibukai without serious feats is stronger than 1 of the 4 strongest pirates in the world is superior, what says that about you.
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KingHashirama
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1. Same reason a rival , is willing to take care of the kid of somebody he has hunted throughout the world. Same reason a rival, drinks Sake with someone. Despite the wound given by that person burns even at their old age.
2. Mihawk doesn't have a serious feat? , this is literally countered by the fact he is the world's strongest swordsman.. that in it self is a feat of personal strength.
3. They had duel/s.. in which Shanks uses his sword. His main style is swordsmanship. The thing he used to counter Akainu's punch wasn't a hand, but a sword. Where as somebody like Garp, would've countered it with a punch.
4. Yonko are the 4 most powerful pirates, because they have numerous territories and huge fleets. Doesn't translate into them being the 4 strongest in 1 vs 1, when it comes to Pirates. Mihawk has no interest in Territories (the man doesn't even have a pirate crew), hence he didn't become a Yonko.
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stubborn prick. I like how you tried to copy what I did only less successful.
It's obvious they're not rivals you can keep pulling bullcrap arguments out of your ass and comparing it to other scenario's but those moments were situations where their hand was played. Mihawk came out of free will to drink a cup of tea with his friend and have a conversation about Luffy. That's something a friend would do.
And I get that you want him to be a rival so bad because otherwise your stupid little theory isn't worth shit anymore because that would mean Shanks and Mihawk never fought to the death and you can't pull any conclusions from that because that would be considered SPARRING. Just like Shanks proposed to do in the panel you posted and Mihawk jokingly declined.
Whitebeard was the world's strongest man, what an impressive monniker right. Oh boy I bet nobody could even close to harm a guy with a title like that. But wait, all it took was a few well aimed shots from the admirals. But how can that be Worlds strongest does that not mean immortal and better than everybody else ? Well I guess not. Seems like the title isn't worth that much under different circumstances. But a feat from Mihawk would be nice, I think the biggest thing we've seen was cutting the tsunami. Much wow very impressive. Everything else got blocked and dodged by Jozu, Vista, Luffy and Buggy. Wasn't that overwhelming at all in the war.
They had duels, and you ASSUME Shanks only used his sword. You ASSUME his main style is swordsmanship and you ASSUME that based one the one time he uses his sword to block Akainu. But can you imagine that in the world of One Piece with devil fruits and abilities and haki that the guy from chapter 1 and one of the 4 strongest pirates on the seas would be 'just' a swordfighter ? Just picture his fighting style in your head and how weird that would like when you're forced to fight with one hand. So since we're assuming here. Let's assume that Shanks can do some more than swing a sword around. If that would be true then that title of his says nothing about the outcome of the fights. And since neither you nor I have prove about the outcome of the fights you shouldn't jump to conclusions.
Bottom line is that Mihawk has never shown anything that puts him up to yonkou level. Never ever. So unless your next post is a page that blows my mind and shows Mihawk doing something that put him up to Shanls' level. I will take this as my win and say that while Mihawk might be the best swordsman, that doesn't make him the better fighter.
I won't be coming back to this thread again.
