How is the guy who matched Hanzo fodder?Another joke thread Infant?...lol
Mifunes Fodder! Konohas Anbu will take care of Mifune lol
He matched a RUSTY plus weakend by Edo Tensei out of his PRIME Hanzo.... he got stomped by ALIVE Hanzo who was in his prime the first time they met.How is the guy who matched Hanzo fodder?
Hanzo himself matched SPoP!
Where are you getting these notions of certain characters being fodder? Is it because they're not popular?
Your definitions on stomping and matching seem off.He matched a RUSTY plus weakend by Edo Tensei out of his PRIME Hanzo.... he got stomped by ALIVE Hanzo who was in his prime the first time they met.
Hanzo didnt match 6POP...he got Stomped...
Mifunes only a samerai that only uses kenjutsu...hes not that powerful.
It was clearly stated that Hanzo was extremely weakened because of his mindset, and he never fought pain. Pain said Hanzo could have beaten him as he not fallen from grace and got so much weaker then his prime self, and he was revived at his lowest point and then slightly weaker.How is the guy who matched Hanzo fodder?
Hanzo himself matched SPoP!
Where are you getting these notions of certain characters being fodder? Is it because they're not popular?
Sorry man, could you just check up and give references for the underlined through the bold (i.e. show statements . . )It was clearly stated that Hanzo was extremely weakened because of his mindset, and he never fought pain. Pain said Hanzo could have beaten him as he not fallen from grace and got so much weaker then his prime self, and he was revived at his lowest point and then slightly weaker.
So Mifune in morning way is comparable to prime Hanzo who was able to actually cripple Nagato.
Sure!Sorry man, could you just check up and give references for the underlined through the bold (i.e. show statements . . )
On its own, the opening statement is extremely compelling.You who were ONCE so strong could be killed”
Basically stating he was once supper strong but now is no longer that strong.
He later says this (for some reason I can’t Insert the scan but I’m reading it and will quote verbatim for accuracy)
“Your conviction is lost, you no longer home yourself as a weapon. You no longer improve, you have lost your sharpness! And thus, your blade became sullied with blood, rusted, it lost its edge. A blunt sword does not last, and remember, people are like swords”
basically he compared the Hanzo he is facing to a rusted sword with no sharpness left, he is a shell of his former self. When Pain beat him he states “you don’t even know why you lost”
Hanzo realizes then that this is what Pain meant. He was rusty, he lost conviction and became a dull sword, weaker then his prime.
Prime Hanzo was able to cripple Nagato and Pain statement indicates that had Hanzo been in his prime he may have actually beaten Pain, but Mifune faced a severely weakened Hanzo, and so Mifune cannot be scaled to prime Hanzo.
It isn’t just about conviction too, Mifune also talks about how he has stopped improving, implying he has stopped training, which also made him rusty. Not fighting for prolonged periods of time can lead to worse stats. Hokage Naruto has been out of shape for a while, and part 1 Tsunade was so rusty she was only rivalling Kabuto. So he has rusted in conviction and training and thus stats as well.On its own, the opening statement is extremely compelling.
However, it is quickly explained as a matter of "conviction" and the blade is equated to the very person (which, especially in philosophical conversation, is about the heart and mind and not the body).
So since both battles came down to last ditch hits, I'm inclined to believe its a mentality issue, not a physical ability issue. What drives it home, for me, is that ability based finishes are almost always noted (like, when one is faster, stronger or smarter than another) so the fact that Mifune doesn't reference speed or skill makes it less likely to come down to stats.
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Oh,I'm not saying Mifune = Hanzo, just that he has the physical ability to play in the same ball park and force fights in his favour
Good foundation but slight overreaching.It isn’t just about conviction too, Mifune also talks about how he has stopped improving, implying he has stopped training, which also made him rusty. Not fighting for prolonged periods of time can lead to worse stats. Hokage Naruto has been out of shape for a while, and part 1 Tsunade was so rusty she was only rivalling Kabuto. So he has rusted in conviction and training and thus stats as well.
Hmm, can he pierce SM skin?Mifune wins. Because he prevents you from using hand seals with his kenjutsu techniques because of their speed. and is able to hold his own against Hanzo and Edo Hanzo. And Hanzo was better than the 3 sanin and conqured the rain and made nagato lose his ability to walk and cause yahiko to commit suicide. Also he doesn't fear Sasuke and is almost equal to a kage at the 5 kage summit. His speed is also shown to equal Sasuke
However Mifune also said he is a rusty sword, rusty means worsening, because if he was the same level as before he would still be a sharp sword.Good foundation but slight overreaching.
If he wasn't improving, that means he was still at his level. So if anything, Mifune is saying ue surpassed the known best level of Hanzo and Hanzo is losing becuse he stopped getting better.
Your point on inaction is much stronger. I concede to that.
Certainly.However Mifune also said he is a rusty sword, rusty means worsening, because if he was the same level as before he would still be a sharp sword.
Mifune is saying that because he stopped improving he became rusty and regressed in power, which is why he won.
So you just conceded to the fact that mifunes NOT on Prime Hanzos level.... which is what i was saying this whole time.Certainly.
The major point is that Mifune didn't know that before he challenged Hanzo, which means Mifune sees himself on the level of prime Hanzo. Not better, since he said he would lose to normal Hanzo, but good enough to stand a solid chance.
No, I conceded that Mifune would lose to Hanzo, not that they are not on the same level.So you just conceded to the fact that mifunes NOT on Prime Hanzos level.... which is what i was saying this whole time.
Why would Hinata challenge Pain?No, I conceded that Mifune would lose to Hanzo, not that they are not on the same level.
Simple logic: why would Mifune challenge someone above his level?