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who do you think would take this?
 

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Who do you think will win between Rogers and Sakazuki? That's the real question. Because I'm almost convinced that you believe Akainu is unbeatable.
 

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Who do you think will win between Rogers and Sakazuki? That's the real question. Because I'm almost convinced that you believe Akainu is unbeatable.

no akainu can be beat? but imo only by yonko tier characters. like I wouldn't say that sakazuki could beat big mom for sure, but if someone else thiks he can, or cant, it would be cool to know why they think so, instead of just what I think
 

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Big mom imo yonkos are portrayed stronger than admerials
 

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no akainu can be beat? but imo only by yonko tier characters. like I wouldn't say that sakazuki could beat big mom for sure, but if someone else thiks he can, or cant, it would be cool to know why they think so, instead of just what I think

And yet I'm sure you're one of the members that said Whitebeard cannot be beaten by Sakazuki. Like there are other pirates out there during the golden era that may be able to compete (not beat) a yonkou character. Mihawk is a prime example of that.
So I wanna know seriously who you believe can beat Sakazuki, because there's a list of people who can but you would have a hard time excepting it because Akainu is your favorite.
 

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And yet I'm sure you're one of the members that said Whitebeard cannot be beaten by Sakazuki. Like there are other pirates out there during the golden era that may be able to compete (not beat) a yonkou character. Mihawk is a prime example of that.
So I wanna know seriously who you believe can beat Sakazuki, because there's a list of people who can but you would have a hard time excepting it because Akainu is your favorite.

I'm sure I could beat you in any debate of any characters that aren't atleast stronger than mihawk. no, I'm positive I can.
 

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Big mom imo yonkos are portrayed stronger than admerials
when were they portrayed stronger? I thought akainu vs wb was a good portrayal, same with blackbear after being named a yonko running from akakinu was a good portrayal.
 

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when were they portrayed stronger? I thought akainu vs wb was a good portrayal, same with blackbear after being named a yonko running from akakinu was a good portrayal.

When the whitebeard alliance was ****ed vs the admirals and the warlords but shanks immediately stopped everything including a blood thirsty akainu
 

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When the whitebeard alliance was ****ed vs the admirals and the warlords but shanks immediately stopped everything including a blood thirsty akainu
if not for the wg akainu would've continued fighting, he coudnt due to political reasons, a yonko just lost, throwing off the power balance that the wg has to maintain, so another yonko, or admiral going down would again put the world in even more turmoil. hell that right there shows they are more equal than not. yes the yonkos are stronger overall especially with their crews, but one on one? akainu vs any yonko would be very close. kuzan vs any yonko would be very close.
 

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sengoku and wb were rivals. garp and roger were rivals, but yeah yonkos are portrayed stronger.
 

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Roger = whitebeard = garp son goku wasn't one their level and none of the other marines are close to what the hero harp was portrayed to be
 

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Roger = whitebeard = garp son goku wasn't one their level and none of the other marines are close to what the hero harp was portrayed to be

how do you know? youre not oda, stop acting like you were. the hero garp was portrayed to be rogers rival who was stalemated by whitebeard. so with what akainu did to sick whitebeard at marineford, and now hes gotten stronger, itd be smarter to assume hes closer to young garp than hes not. use your head
 

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when were they portrayed stronger? I thought akainu vs wb was a good portrayal, same with blackbear after being named a yonko running from akakinu was a good portrayal.

Akainu/WB wasn't a good example though since that was a Yonkou with a foot in the grave, sure he was still strong but it's not a good example of a yonkou level fighter and that's BB's character to run away. If it took the 3 Admirals and a trick shot to take out a dying younkou past his prime than it's likely that in a match between any 1 Yonkou captain and 1 Admiral the Yonkou would win a long hard fight.
 

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Akainu/WB wasn't a good example though since that was a Yonkou with a foot in the grave, sure he was still strong but it's not a good example of a yonkou level fighter and that's BB's character to run away. If it took the 3 Admirals and a trick shot to take out a dying younkou past his prime than it's likely that in a match between any 1 Yonkou captain and 1 Admiral the Yonkou would win a long hard fight.

whitebeard cheap shotted akainu as well. but hell I just wanted to know big mom vs mf akainu. current akainu would stomp but I think big mom might beat mf akainu

and I agree, the typical yonko would beat the typical admiral. but I literally think kuzan, sakazuki, and borsalino are gonna be the 3 strongest marines they've probably ever had, the current generation of pirates/marines/etc is the strongest they've ever had and I think akainu, kuzan, and borsalino have just reached their prime.
 
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whitebeard cheap shotted akainu as well. but hell I just wanted to know big mom vs mf akainu. current akainu would stomp but I think big mom might beat mf akainu

and I agree, the typical yonko would beat the typical admiral. but I literally think kuzan, sakazuki, and borsalino are gonna be the 3 strongest marines they've probably ever had, the current generation of pirates/marines/etc is the strongest they've ever had and I think akainu, kuzan, and borsalino have just reached their prime.

Current Akainu stomps?Lol what kind of cretin are you?
 

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I'm confident Big Mom would defeat MF Akainu.

BM's durability is insane. By portrayal she is more durable and has more stamina than WB, and Whitebeard was able to withstand what Akainu considered a finishing blow (Anime) or half his face blown off (Manga). Whitebeard was also sick and was able to subdue Akainu with one blow.

BM tanked a with not as much as a scratch. Which already puts her durability above Akainu. She has demonstrated some of the same destructive capabilities with her powers so far that whitebeard showed to destroy Marineford (Excluding the Tsunami feat). And as far as we know she could animate some of the Lava that akainu leaves behind from an attack and use it as an absolute counter for Akainu.

Also taking into account that she has flight and powerful long range attacks, I would see charlotte taking this more times than MF Akainu.

I honestly think Whitebeard was the only Yonko who might have stalemated with MF akainu, while the other yonko would have defeated him. Lets not forget that Akainu barely beat Aokiji. They were evenly matched all the way to the end, which is why the fight lasted as long as it did.
 
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I'm sure I could beat you in any debate of any characters that aren't atleast stronger than mihawk. no, I'm positive I can.

You couldn't even if your life depended on it. I already dragged you across the dirt in the last wank thread debate so don't get cocky here. Answer my question too.
 

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whitebeard cheap shotted akainu as well. but hell I just wanted to know big mom vs mf akainu. current akainu would stomp but I think big mom might beat mf akainu

and I agree, the typical yonko would beat the typical admiral. but I literally think kuzan, sakazuki, and borsalino are gonna be the 3 strongest marines they've probably ever had, the current generation of pirates/marines/etc is the strongest they've ever had and I think akainu, kuzan, and borsalino have just reached their prime.

Curious thought about Akainu, I don't know if he would have gotten stronger since MF I feel like he should have been in his prime at MF though future showings will be bigger than at MF but idk if that's more so due to scaling or actual improvement. As for BM idk, until Oda shows someone bypassing BM's armor without the picture I feel like he made a weird hurdle in her battles. As far as we can conclude from the manga Akainu shouldn't actually be able to hurt her but that seems like bullshit to me.

What about Green Bull, Doffy commented to Fuji that he and Green Bull were monsters(I think, someone said it may not have been Doffy now that I think more about it)
 

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Curious thought about Akainu, I don't know if he would have gotten stronger since MF I feel like he should have been in his prime at MF though future showings will be bigger than at MF but idk if that's more so due to scaling or actual improvement. As for BM idk, until Oda shows someone bypassing BM's armor without the picture I feel like he made a weird hurdle in her battles. As far as we can conclude from the manga Akainu shouldn't actually be able to hurt her but that seems like bullshit to me.

What about Green Bull, Doffy commented to Fuji that he and Green Bull were monsters(I think, someone said it may not have been Doffy now that I think more about it)

It was
 
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