#MeToo

[Ambivalence]

Number 4 can only be realized if every Metoo is bullshit. I'm pretty sure sexual harassment should also be included too.

Most are. The hashtag itself is very controversial. I'm gonna quote a woman here, but all it does is blur the boundaries between rape and the regrettably ever-broader definitions of sexual harassment. It doesn’t just trivialize serious offenses, it also inflames a cycle of hysteria in which the sexual harassment of women comes to be presented as a routine part of life.

Essentially, life for women is presented as a battleground where they are all only one pickup line, one whistle or one stare away from being assaulted. Give me a break. And that is what most of #MeToo's stories are comprised of, unsurprisingly to me.

Anyway, I'm moving on. Hardly a relevant ''movement'' anyway.

 

[Lightbringer]

Most are. The hashtag itself is very controversial. I'm gonna quote a woman here, but all it does is blur the boundaries between rape and the regrettably ever-broader definitions of sexual harassment. It doesn’t just trivialize serious offenses, it also inflames a cycle of hysteria in which the sexual harassment of women comes to be presented as a routine part of life.

Essentially, life for women is presented as a battleground where they are all only one pickup line, one whistle or one stare away from being assaulted. Give me a break. And that is what most of #MeToo's stories are comprised of, unsurprisingly to me.

Anyway, I'm moving on. Hardly a relevant ''movement'' anyway.

Most are? Is there a way you can prove this?

Ok, move on then. Let's just not comment on "irrelevant movements" anymore then, shall we?

 

[Ambivalence]

Most are? Is there a way you can prove this?

Is there a way you can prove most are about actual assault, as you originally implied?

 

[Lightbringer]

Is there a way you can prove most are about actual assault, as you originally implied?

So I take your deflection as a no then?

Also, you took me out of context. I asked if sexual assault falls under "petty crap" and then your reply insinuated that there were no sexual assault in #metoo stories, to which I gave you two prominent examples and you then didn't reply. Lol.

 

[Ambivalence]

So I take your deflection as a no then?

Also, you took me out of context. I asked if sexual assault falls under "petty crap" and then your reply insinuated that there were no sexual assault in #metoo stories, to which I gave you two prominent examples and you then didn't reply. Lol.

Deflection? It wasn't a deflection. You replied to me with: ''So sexual assault is petty crap then?'', which means you think or believe #MeToo is comprised of only stories and events that can actually be described as sexual assault. Then you ask me to prove they are not. You started this, you prove it.

I obviously don't mean actual assault is petty, don't try to twist my words like that.

Your two examples mean little since I can pull some random story that fits my case, like so:

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... and call it a day. Internet's full of ones like that one, by the way. That's why this is even more pointless, neither of us will actually browse and count of legitimate and non-legitimate complaints, so..

 

[Lightbringer]

Deflection? It wasn't a deflection. You replied to me with: ''So sexual assault is petty crap then?'', which means you think or believe #MeToo is comprised of only stories and events that can actually be described as sexual assault. Then you ask me to prove they are not. You started this, you prove it.

@Bold: Your words, not mine. I never said that #metoo was only sexual assault.

I asked if sexual assault was petty crap since you called the entirety of the #metoo movement "petty crap" which sexual assault is part of the movement's focus.

I obviously don't mean actual assault is petty, don't try to twist my words like that.

I asked you a simple question, so why didn't you just respond with that instead of trying to say that there were no sexual assault cases in #metoo?

If you're admitting that sexual assault isn't "petty crap" then you're recanting your statement about #metoo being about "petty crap."

Your two examples mean little since I can pull some random story that fits my case, like so:

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... and call it a day. Internet's full of ones like that one, by the way. That's why this is even more pointless, neither of us will actually browse and count of legitimate and non-legitimate complaints, so..

1. They weren't "random" cases. They were among the biggest in the #metoo.

2. Random or not, those two cases were examples that directly contradict your insinuation about #metoo not having stories of sexual assualt.

3. The author of that article was criticized, Aziz Ansari wasn't convicted nor faced any major backlash, and people have defended him within that movement because they realize that this was one of those inevitable instances of abusing the movement's goal. This one case doesn't support your statement about the majority of #metoo stories being bullshit.

 

[UnderTheRedHood]

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[HowDidIGetPrem]

Hmm... with what part should i start? I gave you an my answer in the rep... about everything else, i've seen people trying to be me, walk like me, imitating me ... every single one of them...until i started losing myself.... ****t up...

wat are u even saying..

 

[UnderTheRedHood]

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[Dreckerplayer]

I haven't seen a thread on this site about it, but it's a movement where anyone have ever been sexually harassed, assaulted, bothered, etc. just because they where being themselves or trying to get something fairly or just because they were being preyed on.

And example of this is a woman walking down the street, wearing your favorite outfit and a man comes up to her and gives her unwarranted attention because he feels that her outfit compelled him to do so. If you've been to anything like that you don't have to tell your story, you could just simply a #MeToo And know that there is a support system of survivors out here .

A bunch of self-obsessed people getting sexually assaulted. Two sides to one story.

The enabler and the enabled. When two opposites attract. Cause & Effect.

You have to take responsibility for your own safety in this world. You cannot over-expose yourself, especially when you're vulnerable.And you cannot TRUST a selfish person.They'll do whatever they physically want to do to people, as long as they can get away with it.

Make no excuses.

 

[Onii Chan]

If it's so obvious and it happens all the time, why does it keep going? I think the #MeToo movement is also partly about bringing to light actions and statements that some may not think is sexual assault/harassment, but actually is. By remaining silent about that, it creates a dangerous feedback loop of ignorance towards one's possibly toxic behavior.

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why does crime keep happening? really? .... are you actually serious? .... okay nah, goodbye im not debating with actual kids.

 

[Souji]

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why does crime keep happening? really? .... are you actually serious? .... okay nah, goodbye im not debating with actual kids.

I don't think you're understanding my point. Sexual harassment and assault, besides the obvious actions and behaviors, are less well-defined than other forms of crime (e.g. Murder).

For example, catcalling. What may seem like an innocent action done by men (or women) to others in a flirty or provocative manner may actually be considered offensive or uncomfortable to the recipient. What #MeToo is about is sharing the stories and feelings of such cases (in varying degrees of severity) to bring to light that something like unwelcome catcalling is a toxic behavior that shouldn't be something that's accepted or tolerable.

 

[Belserion]

#NotHeidisGirl

 

[Cornson]

For example, catcalling. What may seem like an innocent action done by men (or women) to others in a flirty or provocative manner may actually be considered offensive or uncomfortable to the recipient. What #MeToo is about is sharing the stories and feelings of such cases (in varying degrees of severity) to bring to light that something like unwelcome catcalling is a toxic behavior that shouldn't be something that's accepted or tolerable.

Actually metoo was about actual sexual predators who had gotten away with their deeds because they held or are in a postion of power, giving their victims a chance to actually tell their storries without getting banned of fired from hollywood.

It was never about catcalling. (it's just people that have gotten cat call started joining in on the conversation and started using the #)

 

[ArabianLuffy]

I haven't seen a thread on this site about it, but it's a movement where anyone have ever been sexually harassed, assaulted, bothered, etc. just because they where being themselves or trying to get something fairly or just because they were being preyed on.

And example of this is a woman walking down the street, wearing your favorite outfit and a man comes up to her and gives her unwarranted attention because he feels that her outfit compelled him to do so. If you've been to anything like that you don't have to tell your story, you could just simply a #MeToo And know that there is a support system of survivors out here .

I'm not sure I understand when you say "a woman walking down the street, wearing your favorite outfit". Is she wearing men clothing or women clothing? She may look OK in black jeans, black shirt and black jacket, but I sure wanna see her wearing sexy dress.

 

[FemmeFatale]

You guys are really closed minded, you don't for one second know how terrifying it is to be a woman , even something that make seem as small as cat calling, it's not always a compliment, it's fritening , we don't know what might happen after that, and no I just gave that as an example, I never said that what it was all about. And you wonder why discussions tend to turn to a man bashing thing, when you sprout bs like this

 

[Cornson]

You guys are really closed minded, you don't for one second know how terrifying it is to be a woman , even something that make seem as small as cat calling, it's not always a compliment, it's fritening , we don't know what might happen after that, and no I just gave that as an example, I never said that what it was all about. And you wonder why discussions tend to turn to a man bashing thing, when you sprout bs like this

and you have no idea how it is to be a guy, your complaining about being catcalled, im sure it must be such a heavy burden to be attractive and getting compliments from strangers.

I'm a 5,5 feet tall guy (as in not tall at all) a couple of years back i was assulted for no other reason that the 3 guys that did it though it would be funny to beat up a short guy, ohhhh how i envy people like you who's biggest problem is being told you look sexy, fine, attractive or some other compliment about my looks... (sure the words used might have been impolite, they might even have complimented your rear, ohh the horror...)

Getting catcalled is a first world problem, it other countries some women gets thown acid in their face if they even show a sliver a skin, gay people are getting thrown off rooftops to their death for the crime of being gay, and here you are compling about catcalling.

You might now know this, but men have it alot worse, men don't fear getting catcalled and what might come after, because stuff like that don't happen to us, we get mugged, assulted for fun or outright murdered.

Sometimes innocent men gets beat up for no other reason that a women claimed the dude was stalking her when all he was doing was walking to his own distination that just happended to be in the same direction the woman was walking and because she was paranoid and overreacted and started making a scene other random men will come leaping to defend the princess in distress (and im not pulling this out of my ass, there wore a post similar to this topic like a year or ago on this very forum where a other used talked about this...)

I'll grant you that we don't know it is to be a women, but you yourself have no clue how it is to be a man either. Did you ever even bother trying to view this from any other angle than your own? or did you just never even bother?

 

[Chikombo]

I heard someone saying it's feministic nonsense, that it can be women exxagarating but I think it's important and positive.

 

[Cornson]

I heard someone saying it's feministic nonsense, that it can be women exxagarating but I think it's important and positive.

no one should go true what some of these woman have had to deal with, period, what these abusers did was wrong and imo they should be punished for it.

one the flip side of that coin some of these stories in #metoo have been proven to be wrong, and that not okay either, taking advantage of other peoples misfortune to wrongfully frame a person for something they did do, that wrong to.

and then you have the 3'rd camp that are using the hashtag to try and claim that catcalling should be viewed in the same way as sexual assault, rape or misuse of power for sexual favors.

 

[ArabianLuffy]

You guys are really closed minded, you don't for one second know how terrifying it is to be a woman , even something that make seem as small as cat calling, it's not always a compliment, it's fritening , we don't know what might happen after that, and no I just gave that as an example, I never said that what it was all about. And you wonder why discussions tend to turn to a man bashing thing, when you sprout bs like this

Generalizing always tends to be a negative behavior and a bad move by the one who makes a statement. Well, in my case generalizing and judging people who bought Metal Gear Survive is OK, because it's shit and who own it is shit too. Whatever. Anyway, you said we don't know how terrifying it is to be a woman. All men don't know? OK. We men don't know how terrifying it is to be a woman. No man on Earth respect women. Not even a single one. All men are predators. Do you agree?