Mei vs Zabuza

[ShaneEyyy]

Lol you must be blind or something, more people are on Darui's side and everyone know Darui would rape Zabuza. It's just common sense. I don't see Zabuza standing a chance against Edos G and K He's a fodder from the mist and he couldn't even act on his own but instead as a mercenary that shows how weak he is

Most people know Darui is stronger than Zabuza, only few retards think otherwise
Also you should learn how to debate, everyone here think you're pathetic hahahah

Actually, majority of the people who think Darui would win are newer members, members who are not well acknowledged with debating.

Oh and the poll says otherwisexD

This is why I think you're an idiot, you keep bringing up how Zabuza can't beat G and S brothers when I never said he could. Oh and everybody knows Darui cant beat them if he was alone, everybody already said that in the thread.

You call me pathetic however I have proof of what people think, the poll had Zabuza beating Darui and people said Darui would lose on that Darui, G and S thread.

Also, if everyone thought I was pathetic i wouldnt have gotten any rep, like you

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Well you know im not lying i said it was unjustifiable from the beginning (not even worth negging back)

Again, I'm going to bring up how you thought Zabuza could turn into a puddle of water, you didn't know you were wrong at firsta nd this is the same exact situation. Trust me.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Again, I'm going to bring up how you thought Zabuza could turn into a puddle of water, you didn't know you were wrong at firsta nd this is the same exact situation. Trust me.

You have to refer to smthing off topic to this thread cause you can't counter my current points, difference is I corrected my faults your still being a retarded fanboy its not just me who says it, I don't have time to waste on you I won't be posting on here and wasting my time on fodder

 

[Icelerate]

Mei can spread a large torrent of lava around her thereby creating a molten moat to protect herself if Zabuza tries to use silent killing.

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It would most likely be a water clone since Zabuza is good at using bunshin feints.

I know how Zabuza could try neutralizing the Ph but it would take time and not be immediate. If he tries coming close to Mei, the chances are, Mei's mist's acidity will overpower Zabuza's.

Mei's water jutsus are much bigger and powerful than Zabuza's. Also she can execute those techniques faster than him. This shows her hand seal speed, stamina and overall ninjutsu prowess is far above Zabuza's.

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Also lava release should be able to heat up the mist and the mist particles should be melted away.

Anyway I give this to Mei mid difficulty but Zabuza is strong enough to put up a decent fight. Despite supporting Mei, I haven't seen a single post in this thread that gives a good reason as to why Mei wins. Despite me thinking Zabuza loses, the OP has posted better reasons on why Zabuza wins compared to the other people in this thread who are backing Mei without giving good reasons.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

You have to refer to smthing off topic to this thread cause you can't counter my current points, difference is I corrected my faults your still being a retarded fanboy its not just me who says it, I don't have time to waste on you I won't be posting on here and wasting my time on fodder

Ok so now you're calling me in general a fodder? youre a ***

Mei can spread a large torrent of lava around her thereby creating a molten moat to protect herself if Zabuza tries to use silent killing.

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It would most likely be a water clone since Zabuza is good at using bunshin feints.

I know how Zabuza could try neutralizing the Ph but it would take time and not be immediate. If he tries coming close to Mei, the chances are, Mei's mist's acidity will overpower Zabuza's.

Mei's water jutsus are much bigger and powerful than Zabuza's. Also she can execute those techniques faster than him. This shows her hand seal speed, stamina and overall ninjutsu prowess is far above Zabuza's.

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Also lava release should be able to heat up the mist and the mist particles should be melted away.

Anyway I give this to Mei mid difficulty but Zabuza is strong enough to put up a decent fight. Despite supporting Mei, I haven't seen a single post in this thread that gives a good reason as to why Mei wins. Despite me thinking Zabuza loses, the OP has posted better reasons on why Zabuza wins compared to the other people in this thread who are backing Mei without giving good reasons.

You changed my mind, Mei wins but I would say mid-high diff due to the fact that she would have to go through great measures to get rid of the mist. If her lava release can heat up the mist to make it disperse, then she is going to have to use a hell lot of it to do so.

Then when the mist disperses, she's not going to use her acidic mist again because Zabuza would put up his own mist and increase the pH of it then deshavuu she uses Lava Release again. So after it disperses, all Zabuza has left is Suiton which Mei can reduce the power of it with her Lava Release or even match it and turn it into steam

Are you sure that moat would prevent Zabuza's Silent Killing?

And to the bolded part of your message, yea thats why I believed Zabuza would win bc no one was proving me wrong

 

[Edo Odin]

Spoiler

Mei can spread a large torrent of lava around her thereby creating a molten moat to protect herself if Zabuza tries to use silent killing.

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It would most likely be a water clone since Zabuza is good at using bunshin feints.

I know how Zabuza could try neutralizing the Ph but it would take time and not be immediate. If he tries coming close to Mei, the chances are, Mei's mist's acidity will overpower Zabuza's.

Mei's water jutsus are much bigger and powerful than Zabuza's. Also she can execute those techniques faster than him. This shows her hand seal speed, stamina and overall ninjutsu prowess is far above Zabuza's.

You must be registered for see images

Also lava release should be able to heat up the mist and the mist particles should be melted away.

Anyway I give this to Mei mid difficulty but Zabuza is strong enough to put up a decent fight. Despite supporting Mei, I haven't seen a single post in this thread that gives a good reason as to why Mei wins. Despite me thinking Zabuza loses, the OP has posted better reasons on why Zabuza wins compared to the other people in this thread who are backing Mei without giving good reasons.

Dammit, beat me to it xd

Anyways, well said :y

You changed my mind, Mei wins but I would say mid-high diff due to the fact that she would have to go through great measures to get rid of the mist. If her lava release can heat up the mist to make it disperse, then she is going to have to use a hell lot of it to do so.

Then when the mist disperses, she's not going to use her acidic mist again because Zabuza would put up his own mist and increase the pH of it then deshavuu she uses Lava Release again. So after it disperses, all Zabuza has left is Suiton which Mei can reduce the power of it with her Lava Release or even match it and turn it into steam

Are you sure that moat would prevent Zabuza's Silent Killing?

At least you are man enough to admit it when you're wrong :y There are honestly too many people that should try that out sometimes xd

 

[Megan Terumi]

Serious answer, if Zabuza's regular mist decreases the pH of Mei's acid mist, she could just adjust the pH accordingly to counter it, no? It's very highly implied that she can change the pH of her mist to accommodate her surroundings, as in the Kage Summit. Furthermore, while Zabuza may be skilled at Silent Killing, we cannot count out Mei's ability to be able to at least detect him in the Hidden Mist Jutsu, given her own usage of the jutsu and the fact that she was able to help in a team attack against Madara with it. Without a water source, Mei is the more masterful shinobi when it comes to Suiton techniques, and has Lava Release like others have mentioned.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Dammit, beat me to it xd

Anyways, well said :y

At least you are man enough to admit it when you're wrong :y There are honestly too many people that should try that out sometimes xd

It only takes 1 person to provide a logical response that counters mine to change my mind. I am no fanboy.

Serious answer, if Zabuza's regular mist decreases the pH of Mei's acid mist, she could just adjust the pH accordingly to counter it, no? It's very highly implied that she can change the pH of her mist to accommodate her surroundings, as in the Kage Summit. Furthermore, while Zabuza may be skilled at Silent Killing, we cannot count out Mei's ability to be able to at least detect him in the Hidden Mist Jutsu, given her own usage of the jutsu and the fact that she was able to help in a team attack against Madara with it. Without a water source, Mei is the more masterful shinobi when it comes to Suiton techniques, and has Lava Release like others have mentioned.

With the pH level talk, I was saying that when she would try to adjust the pH of it accordingly, Zabuza may be able to fight back and increase the pH of it against her will to make it nonlethal.

Mei only used her Mist against Madara as a last resort of defense to counter his Sharingan to save them. That being said, it isnt implied she can detect who's in her mist because we only say her use the Hidden Mist Jutsu in a dreadful situation.

We still can't assume Zabuza doesn't have the ability to summon water of his own in an area without a pre existing water source because Suiton users such as Darui and Kakashi were able too and Zabuza is a more skilled Suiton user than them both. Zabuza being able to perform A-rank Suiton such as Giant Vortex Jutsu should imply he can expel water from his mouth such as the Water Wall Jutsu which is only a B rank move to use for his jutsu.

 

[Edo Odin]

It only takes 1 person to provide a logical response that counters mine to change my mind. I am no fanboy.

Actually, there's no shame at all in being a fanboy, as long as you stay logical. I'm a huge fanboy, not afraid to admit that xd

 

[Megan Terumi]

With the pH level talk, I was saying that when she would try to adjust the pH of it accordingly, Zabuza may be able to fight back and increase the pH of it against her will to make it nonlethal.

Mei only used her Mist against Madara as a last resort of defense to counter his Sharingan to save them. That being said, it isnt implied she can detect who's in her mist because we only say her use the Hidden Mist Jutsu in a dreadful situation.

We still can't assume Zabuza doesn't have the ability to summon water of his own in an area without a pre existing water source because Suiton users such as Darui and Kakashi were able too and Zabuza is a more skilled Suiton user than them both. Zabuza being able to perform A-rank Suiton such as Giant Vortex Jutsu should imply he can expel water from his mouth such as the Water Wall Jutsu which is only a B rank move to use for his jutsu.

In that case, it would just be a mist fight. There is no guarantee that Zabuza will immediately know about the mist's effects, either, and in the time it takes him to cast more hidden mist, Mei can find him or set up a defense around herself by spewing lava.

If I can recall, she used hidden mist near the beginning of the fight. If she can use her mist effectively in a team, then she should be able to use it for herself. Mei's acid is already something that can only be used in a solo situation, so she is probably accustomed to fighting alone.

Even so, we have only seen Zabuza use suiton (besides hidden mist) in a watery area, and if the both of them were to use Suiton, I'd wager that Mei could overpower him.

 

[kyubbi sagemode]

Mei easily

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Actually, there's no shame at all in being a fanboy, as long as you stay logical. I'm a huge fanboy, not afraid to admit that xd

Would you say that I stay logical?

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Mei easily

Mei mid-high diff

In that case, it would just be a mist fight. There is no guarantee that Zabuza will immediately know about the mist's effects, either, and in the time it takes him to cast more hidden mist, Mei can find him or set up a defense around herself by spewing lava.

If I can recall, she used hidden mist near the beginning of the fight. If she can use her mist effectively in a team, then she should be able to use it for herself. Mei's acid is already something that can only be used in a solo situation, so she is probably accustomed to fighting alone.

Even so, we have only seen Zabuza use suiton (besides hidden mist) in a watery area, and if the both of them were to use Suiton, I'd wager that Mei could overpower him.

Yea she can put a defense around her with her lava, that's why she wins.

The bottom line is, we know that Mei only used the Hidden Mist Jutsu once and it was against Madara to defend from his Sharingan. She hasnt shown Silent Killing or any other sensing abilities to locate her target. If we assume she does, then we assume Zabuza can summon his own water as well.

Mei has shown Water Dragon and Water Pillar Jutsu, Zabuza has shown Water Dragon, Water Clone, Water Prison, and Giant Vortex Jutsu so there Water Dragons cancel out each other, Giant Vortex Jutsu is stronger than Water Pillar, then Zabuza also has Water Clone and Water Prison. His Suiton>Her Suiton

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Here is why I think Mei will not have a problem with Silent Killing.

She is the Kage of the Water village, where she has knowledge on this style. And she can use regular mist too:

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This leaves the question, what is the benefit of knowing this tech if you can't do nothing about the Mist herself? She has to know Silent Killing too.

I was wrong in another thread (Kakuzu and Hidan vs Mei, Zabuza, and Haku) when someone mention that she could possible do it and I said no.

I think she can use Silent Kill and counter too.

 

[Masked man]

Mei low difficulty.

 

[Boston Rob]

Look, Mei was able to hold herself against EDO Madara. She was able to trap and almost kill Sasuke. She defeated Zetsu.
And Zabuza was fodderized by part1 Kakashi.

Mei > Part1 Kakashi > Zabuza

Yeah she was able stand against Madara when the kages watched hers a** the whole time, good point

 

[Edo Odin]

Would you say that I stay logical?

From what I've seen from you, I think you do :y

 

[Icelerate]

You say Temari>Zabuza, but you believe Zabuza can beat Mei when Temari isn't even on Kage level? Mei would melt Zabuza with Boil Release and she has water techs greater than Zabuza.

Temari is a completely different fighter compared to Mei. She is in fact Zabuza's worst match up and has stronger ninjutsu than him as well as the ability to avoid CQC or silent killing. It should be obvious who wins.

Ok so now you're calling me in general a fodder? youre a ***



You changed my mind, Mei wins but I would say mid-high diff due to the fact that she would have to go through great measures to get rid of the mist. If her lava release can heat up the mist to make it disperse, then she is going to have to use a hell lot of it to do so.

Then when the mist disperses, she's not going to use her acidic mist again because Zabuza would put up his own mist and increase the pH of it then deshavuu she uses Lava Release again. So after it disperses, all Zabuza has left is Suiton which Mei can reduce the power of it with her Lava Release or even match it and turn it into steam

Are you sure that moat would prevent Zabuza's Silent Killing?

And to the bolded part of your message, yea thats why I believed Zabuza would win bc no one was proving me wrong

Good you changed your mind. I guess I agree with what you said. I don't think lava can evaporate all the mist but whatever is near Mei will get evaporated so it will allow Mei to have more visibility. I like how there are still people who even when they get proven wrong, accept their defeat.

Mei easily

Says the guy who thinks Darui has even a small chance against Mei.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Mei easily

Temari is a completely different fighter compared to Mei. She is in fact Zabuza's worst match up and has stronger ninjutsu than him as well as the ability to avoid CQC or silent killing. It should be obvious who wins.

Good you changed your mind. I guess I agree with what you said. I don't think lava can evaporate all the mist but whatever is near Mei will get evaporated so it will allow Mei to have more visibility. I like how there are still people who even when they get proven wrong, accept their defeat.

Says the guy who thinks Darui has even a small chance against Mei.

He also said Darui beats Zabuza.....I really don't like that guy.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Yeah she was able stand against Madara when the kages watched hers a** the whole time, good point

Haha ik right? All of them had horrible points

From what I've seen from you, I think you do :y

Thanks bro, three people on this thread act like I'm a retard.