[VS] Mei vs Minato

[grizzlyshree]

who would win? the water goddess? or Yellow flash?

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[Oblivionx]

Minato low to mid diff

 

[Nattana]

who would win? the water goddess? or Yellow flash?

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You cannot restrict something he doesn't have.

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Minato high diff or Mei high diff. It can go either way.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Depends on Mei's intel, the location and the starting distance.

 

[KidGamer65]

Mei loses mid diff if this isn't in a an enclosed space.

 

[Unorthodox]

Gamabunta solos

 

[amarusboobs]

Minato wins low diff. Also when did that fodderkage become a goddess? She still hot doe :|

 

[Nattana]

Lol at those who believe Minato can beat her low or mid diff.

 

[KidGamer65]

lol @ those who think Mei even has a chance of winning in a neutral area.

 

[deidara senpai]

This is complete stomp once he throws the Kunai around its over lol

 

[Nattana]

lol @ those who think Mei even has a chance of winning in a neutral area.

His kunais won't even get a chance to come near her. They'd get melted or deflected with suitons. She can also jump back.

 

[KidGamer65]

His kunais won't even get a chance to come near her. They'd get melted or deflected with suitons. She can also jump back.

He doesn't need to toss his Kunai straight at her first of all, not when he can simply

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. Mei can't get them all. Not to mention he can throw Kunai all around her with the use of Shadow Clones, she can't get all of the Kunai so in the end she gets slammed with a Rasengan on her back or a Kunai slits her throat.

No move she has can even hit him due to Hiraishin.

Scratch mid difficulty, in an open area he takes her low difficulty.

 

[Nattana]

He doesn't need to toss his Kunai straight at her first of all, not when he can simply

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. Mei can't get them all. Not to mention he can throw Kunai all around her with the use of Shadow Clones, she can't get all of the Kunai so in the end she gets slammed with a Rasengan on her back or a Kunai slits her throat.

No move she has can even hit him due to Hiraishin.

Scratch mid difficulty, in an open area he takes her low difficulty.

Lava spreaded around her makes all the kunai useless. They melt before even touching the ground.
He has no counter to Hiding in the mist jutsu.
Even if he manages to strike her with Rasengan, he melts as well due to Corrosive Mist. You can say that he teleports away immediately but one needs to maintain the shape manipulation of Rasengan for it to have any impact. If you don't maintain it - it's shti.

 

[KidGamer65]

Lava spreaded around her makes all the kunai useless. They melt before even touching the ground.
He has no counter to Hiding in the mist jutsu.
Even if he manages to strike her with Rasengan, he melts as well due to Corrosive Mist. You can say that he teleports away immediately but one needs to maintain the shape manipulation of Rasengan for it to have any impact. If you don't maintain it - it's shit.

Lava spread around her is simply lava on the ground after she fires it, Minato doesn't need to throw Kunai at the ground in order for him to be able to blitz her via Hiraishin. Mei isn't getting every Kunai coming at her in a 360 degree assault before they hit her, not with the speed of her lava.

Um, once Minato throws the Kunai around her its over, she has to actually expel the mist first cause she isn't reacting to Minato's assault once he teleports to her and attacks via Rasengan.

Or he could teleport right above her with a Kunai and use Food Cart Destroyer.

You mean the Hiding in Mist Jutsu that also impairs her as well? Zabuza was able to keep track of opponents in the mist, Mei has shown no such skill, if she makes the mist too thick she gets blinded as well. When she used the mist in the manga Madara had no problems at all fighting in it. What is she going to do in the mist anyway? Any attack she uses can be teleported away from as he was able to react to Ay when he was mere centimeters from his face.

Not to mention in an open area, the Hiding in Mist Jutsu or the Corrosive Mist aren't as effective as Minato can simply leave the Area the mist covers.

 

[Nattana]

Lava spread around her is simply lava on the ground after she fires it, Minato doesn't need to throw Kunai at the ground in order for him to be able to blitz her via Hiraishin. Mei isn't getting every Kunai coming at her in a 360 degree assault before they hit her, not with the speed of her lava.

Um, once Minato throws the Kunai around her its over, she has to actually expel the mist first cause she isn't reacting to Minato's assault once he teleports to her and attacks via Rasengan.

Or he could teleport right above her with a Kunai and use Food Cart Destroyer.

You mean the Hiding in Mist Jutsu that also impairs her as well? Zabuza was able to keep track of opponents in the mist, Mei has shown no such skill, if she makes the mist too thick she gets blinded as well. When she used the mist in the manga Madara had no problems at all fighting in it. What is she going to do in the mist anyway? Any attack she uses can be teleported away from as he was able to react to Ay when he was mere centimeters from his face.

Not to mention in an open area, the Hiding in Mist Jutsu or the Corrosive Mist aren't as effective as Minato can simply leave the Area the mist covers.

U're making it sound as if Minato does all those things in 0.0001s and Mei stands doing nothing. Her aoe attacks are the perfect counter for all the kunai spread around her. Mei also showed some serious speed feats, for example speed-blitzing Zetsu (one of the best sensors) without him even noticing.

Both mist jutsu are as effective as the user wants them to be. She'd need to imbue it with a little bit more chakra to make it's area of effect wider.
I can agree with you that we've seen no proof that Mei can see perfectly in her mist, but one does not use techniques that he can't take any advantage of. Mei has tons of experience with her Hiding in the mist jutsu, Minato doesn't. Simple implication proves that she can see (even if not perfectly) through the mist much better than Minato.

I wanna see Minato teleporting away her Concentrated corrosive mist spit. It's almost instant, takes no hand signs and doesn't give away her chakra usage at all. As far as I know Minato can't teleport air lol.

 

[KidGamer65]

U're making it sound as if Minato does all those things in 0.0001s and Mei stants doing nothing. Her aoe attacks are the perfect counter for all the kunai spread around her. Mei also showed some serious speed feats, for example speed-blitzing Zetsu (one of the best sensors) without him even noticing.

Um, not really. Throwing a bunch of Kunai doesn't take long and teleportation is instant. You are suggesting that Mei is going to repel Kunai coming at her from all directions with her slow moves like Lava, which is completely ridiculous.

lol? Serious speed feat? Zetsu isn't even fast and he is not one of the best sensors, where did that even come from. Mei has no remarkable speed feats at all.

Mei is never getting off anything past her first attack before she gets a Rasengan to the neck.

Both mist jutsu are as effective as the user wants them to be. She'd need to imbue it with a little bit more chakra to make it's area of effect wider.

Zabuza's covered the whole battlefield cause he used the water they were standing on, Mei doesn't have such a luxury in a neutral location. Imbuing it with more chakra makes it thicker and could increase the AoE some but it won't cover the whole battlefield. Not when we have already seen it

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I can agree with you that we've seen no proof that Mei can see perfectly in her mist, but one does not use techniques that he can't take any advantage of. Mei has tons of experience with her Hiding in the mist jutsu, Minato doesn't. Simple implication proves that she can see (even if not perfectly) through the mist much better than Minato.

Nope. Nothing implies that. You believe that she can do that just because she can use it, how would you even know she has tons of experience with it when she's used in battle once during this whole manga? That's just a baseless assumption. Your experience with the mist doesn't magically allow to see right through it.

Mei used that technique in that instance because it helped to catch Madara off guard in Susanoo, but it didn't completely blind him as the scan above shows. Mu and Madara saw Onoki and Ay coming.

I wanna see Minato teleporting away her Concentrated corrosive mist spit. It's almost instant, takes no hand signs and doesn't give away her chakra usage at all. As far as I know Minato can't teleport air lol.

Open area says hi. Mei's mist doesn't cover the whole battlefield, he can easily teleport out of range. Instant>Almost Instant. Not to mention only the firing of it is fast, it still has to reach Minato. Who has no reason at all to fight in the mist.

 

[Nattana]

Um, not really. Throwing a bunch of Kunai doesn't take long and teleportation is instant. You are suggesting that Mei is going to repel Kunai coming at her from all directions with her slow moves like Lava, which is completely ridiculous.

lol? Serious speed feat? Zetsu isn't even fast and he is not one of the best sensors, where did that even come from. Mei has no remarkable speed feats at all.

Mei is never getting off anything past her first attack before she gets a Rasengan to the neck.



Zabuza's covered the whole battlefield cause he used the water they were standing on, Mei doesn't have such a luxury in a neutral location. Imbuing it with more chakra makes it thicker and could increase the AoE some but it won't cover the whole battlefield. Not when we have already seen it

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Nope. Nothing implies that. You believe that she can do that just because she can use it, how would you even know she has tons of experience with it when she's used in battle once during this whole manga? That's just a baseless assumption. Your experience with the mist doesn't magically allow to see right through it.

Mei used that technique in that instance because it helped to catch Madara off guard in Susanoo, but it didn't completely blind him as the scan above shows. Mu and Madara saw Onoki and Ay coming.



Open area says hi. Mei's mist doesn't cover the whole battlefield, he can easily teleport out of range. Instant>Almost Instant. Not to mention only the firing of it is fast, it still has to reach Minato. Who has no reason at all to fight in the mist.

She can use her suiton to reflect kunais. Suiton are much faster than lava.
Speed-blitzing a sensor (I won't discuss with you if Zetsu is one of the best sensors or not in this thread) from quite a far distance WITHOUT him even noticing is quite a speed feat.
She used her Hiding in the mist jutsu only once because it's the way manga works. But she had to use it many times before, especially while learning and practising it.
Muu and Madara could see through the mist because as you said - it couldn't be THAT thick because it'd blind her allies as well. Moreover Muu is one helluva sensor and Madara has his Sharingan.
Lastly, I wasn't talking about the Corrosive mist but about her CONCENTRATED corrosive mist SPIT. It doesn't need to reach him since it's a short+mid range technique. She wouldn't use it against him from 100m. It's used almost instantly and it's destructive power is much greater than the normal, spread mist.

 

[Bogard]

Lol @off-panel feats from Mei supposedly speed-blitzing the supposed fastest and greatest sensor in narutoverse from an unknown position at the time, which is even basically her only feat in terms of her obviously supposed godlike taijutsu out of nowhere, her accute sensing in the mist, even greater than Zabuza's. Same Mei with an entire squad behind her was obviously also capable to defeat said strongest and greatest sensor during one day long. Wow, Mei is really a godlike kunoichi. She can even speed blitz Rikudobito

 

[KidGamer65]

She can use her suiton to reflect kunais. Suiton are much faster than lava.
Speed-blitzing a sensor (I won't discuss with you if Zetsu is one of the best sensors or not in this thread) from quite a far distance WITHOUT him even noticing is quite a speed feat.
She used her Hiding in the mist jutsu only once because it's the way manga works. But she had to use it many times before, especially while learning and practising it.
Muu and Madara could see through the mist because as you said - it couldn't be THAT thick because it'd blind her allies as well. Moreover Muu is one helluva sensor and Madara has his Sharingan.
Lastly, I wasn't talking about the Corrosive mist but about her CONCENTRATED corrosive mist SPIT. It doesn't need to reach him since it's a short+mid range technique. It's used almost instantly and it's destructive power is much greater than the normal, spread mist.

Suiton comes out of her mouth. Unless she has to multiple mouths all around her body, she isn't going to be able to get all of them coming at her from all directions.

Regardless of her speed feat, it doesn't put her anywhere near Minato's level of speed, at all nor will it help in this battle. Not when Zetsu isn't even a fast character.

You are assuming that she knows it so she must have mastered it and can travel through it unimpaired or not as impaired as Minato. Baseless claim. Kakashi knows Sharingan Genjutsu, does that mean he regularly practices it and its apart of his regular fighting style? Nope.

Mu being able to see them coming doesn't compliment his sensing abilities, cause he saw them coming with his own two eyes, nothing will stop Minato from doing the same. Sharingan sees chakra, the mist is full of chakra. It's actually harder to see in the mist with Sharingan due to how it works. Nonetheless Mu saw them coming with regular eyes, sensing doesn't increase his vision.


lol? It doesn't need to reach him? If she spits it out at him it obviously has to reach him in order for it to melt him. Its not going to hurt him if it doesn't touch him, that principle stands for almost every technique. That won't happen due to FTG. None of her attacks will ever land a hit on her.

Also, post a scan of Mei blitzing Zetsu and one of her concentrated corrosive mist spit. I don't remember this so I need to see if its actually what you say it is.

 

[Zexion~]

Lol Minato Stomps