Marco The Phoenix Vs Kizaru(Borsalino)
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Kizaru wins Medium-difficulty.
IF the fight was extended, kizaru would have won. Kizaru was completely unharmed, the fact is that admirals can tank more than the whitebeard commanders. Aokiji got a bloody nose from getting full tackled by jozu, who has the strongest physical feats by far. But yeah, kizaru was unharmed but marco was using his healing ability. Marco's healing isn't unlimited so given time it seems likely that kizaru would be able to outlast marco's healing. At that point he can just shoot him with lazers and marco won't be able to heal and if he does, at that point it will be minor healing that won't even get close to healing at the level it should be healed.
IF the fight was extended, kizaru would have won. Kizaru was completely unharmed, the fact is that admirals can tank more than the whitebeard commanders. Aokiji got a bloody nose from getting full tackled by jozu, who has the strongest physical feats by far. But yeah, kizaru was unharmed but marco was using his healing ability. Marco's healing isn't unlimited so given time it seems likely that kizaru would be able to outlast marco's healing. At that point he can just shoot him with lazers and marco won't be able to heal and if he does, at that point it will be minor healing that won't even get close to healing at the level it should be healed.
Totsuka No Tsurugi
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I just wanted to say that these blue flames are not hot and they do not burn or spread like normal fire; instead, they are what allows him to heal, though there is a limit to the regeneration.
I think Marco will win. Marco was the oldest commander in the WB pirates having as much experience as that of Kizaru, he already showed his amazing strength in the war of the best but was defeated there because of him being distracted constantly for one and other reasons. I also think Kizaru being a bit weaker than the other two Admirals and he would've lost the fight if it was for only Marco vs Kizaru, even the other Admirals would have had a difficult time fighting Marco though Akainu would've murdered him.
If Marco goes all out with his Mythical Zoan which is more rarer to the Logia , it outclasses Kizaru.
And the healing ability of Marco when ever he is in Phoenix Form aids him in the battle to a large extent. Also the control of Marco over the his DF advantages him, partially transforming any of his part of body into Phoenix Flame. Kizaru light power cannot do much damage to him though the fight would be long and hard for both as Kizaru being the most powerful asset of Marines strength but Marco would emerge victorious.
If Marco goes all out with his Mythical Zoan which is more rarer to the Logia , it outclasses Kizaru.
And the healing ability of Marco when ever he is in Phoenix Form aids him in the battle to a large extent. Also the control of Marco over the his DF advantages him, partially transforming any of his part of body into Phoenix Flame. Kizaru light power cannot do much damage to him though the fight would be long and hard for both as Kizaru being the most powerful asset of Marines strength but Marco would emerge victorious.
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Totsuka No Tsurugi
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not really since marco abvility is like logia and that's mean the regeneration is not limited
Boa Hancock
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Totsuka No Tsurugi
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that weird vice admiral help kizaru and cuffed marco with kairoseki, even i can kill kizaru if he get cuffed with kairoseki
Marco needs to expend energy in order to regenerate, just like Logia users need to expend energy in order to attack.
When Marco gets really tired, he probably wouldn't have strength to regenerate, and that could be his weak point.
Even if someone had Marco's fruit, if he is weak, he wouldn't last very long with regeneration.
If Marco could regenerate all the time, he could easily have pwned everyone in the war.
FlashySmosRinnegan
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Marco would win.
Marco's healing ability, Haki, Close Combat skills would give him the advantage in close range.
If it's Long Range, we saw his closing speed.
Marco was stated by the Gorosei that he's strong enough or one of the few that can bring down Blackbeard.
Adding a little logic and some imagination, Teach can most likely defeat Sakazuki, Kuzan and Borsalino in a 1 on 1... agree?
If Marco is capable of bringing down someone of that caliber(Teach), it's probably best to say he can defeat those 3 in a 1 on 1... agree?
Now subtracting my little logic and imagination, I can conclude that because of Marco's Haki, Flames and superior Close Range Speed/Skills he is capable of defeating Borsalino.
*Remember when he had full concentration/focus in his 1 on 1 fights, he was able to wreck Borsalino, Kuzan and to a certain extent Sakazuki.
Marco's healing ability, Haki, Close Combat skills would give him the advantage in close range.
If it's Long Range, we saw his closing speed.
Marco was stated by the Gorosei that he's strong enough or one of the few that can bring down Blackbeard.
Adding a little logic and some imagination, Teach can most likely defeat Sakazuki, Kuzan and Borsalino in a 1 on 1... agree?
If Marco is capable of bringing down someone of that caliber(Teach), it's probably best to say he can defeat those 3 in a 1 on 1... agree?
Now subtracting my little logic and imagination, I can conclude that because of Marco's Haki, Flames and superior Close Range Speed/Skills he is capable of defeating Borsalino.
*Remember when he had full concentration/focus in his 1 on 1 fights, he was able to wreck Borsalino, Kuzan and to a certain extent Sakazuki.
Boa Hancock
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I wasn't talking about that. Look at their DFs, Kizaru obviously has an advantage. Unless Marco shows something more, he is only limited to physical Haki attacks.
I can't believe the serious Admiral underestimation here. There is a reason why Blackbeard or any of the Yonkou haven't stormed G5 when Akainu was recuperating from his big fight with Aokiji.
Oda in an SBS.
Kizaru without a doubt ,we already saw marco clearly had a dis advantage in the war .You can't compare an admiral with a commander 
Admirals > shihibukai > 14 commanders of WB exception being Ace though .
We all saw how Oars and kozu was easily tackled by daflamingo .
Marco is agile ,He has healing abilities and can use haki but with all that he could not make quite a show in the war. Even a wise admiral was able to put a sea stone cuff on marco.I rewatched the fight between Kizaru and marco.It looked marco was giving everything in the fight while kizaru looked as if he was only playing with marco .
Regarding the comment about the elder saying marco and team or shanks and his team will be the only ones to take out teach .K guys he did not include the maries here why ?
When he said marco and his pirates (they are referring to the Wb pirates ,since WB is dead ,Marco being the second in command should take care of them ) .More over shanks and marco already had an encounter with BB .With that context they said meaning the remaing WB pirates under Marco or shanks team would be able to take care of BB .Think about it ,why did he not add the marines or the remaining to yonkos in the list ?
Admirals > shihibukai > 14 commanders of WB exception being Ace though .
We all saw how Oars and kozu was easily tackled by daflamingo .
Marco is agile ,He has healing abilities and can use haki but with all that he could not make quite a show in the war. Even a wise admiral was able to put a sea stone cuff on marco.I rewatched the fight between Kizaru and marco.It looked marco was giving everything in the fight while kizaru looked as if he was only playing with marco .
Regarding the comment about the elder saying marco and team or shanks and his team will be the only ones to take out teach .K guys he did not include the maries here why ?
When he said marco and his pirates (they are referring to the Wb pirates ,since WB is dead ,Marco being the second in command should take care of them ) .More over shanks and marco already had an encounter with BB .With that context they said meaning the remaing WB pirates under Marco or shanks team would be able to take care of BB .Think about it ,why did he not add the marines or the remaining to yonkos in the list ?
Dragonfly X
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Kizaru with moderate difficulty. He was playing around with Marco while Marco was struggling and going all out.
FlashySmosRinnegan
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Well said. What reminds me,if Marco was really that strong and could overpower Kizaru,why didn´t he do so a long time ago? He could lure him away and fight him one on one and defeat him,right? No. He´s unable ti use haki to such an extent that he would completely knock Kizaru out and healing himself if not managed to dodge wouldn´t work for a longer period.