sindi1997
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Hello everyone !! I read recent thread replys and it seems most people still belive that obito can use Kamui with 3 tomoe Or that its actuaclly Madara Casting the Tsukyomi On the moon i m here to clarify that A bit For you guys 
So as you know kishi before reaviling Obito s identity was making us belive that obito could actually kamui with 3 tomoe which is not Real at all you see All the Normal sharingans have shown no other abillity than their actual base one which means All 3 tomoe Sharingans share the same features unlike mangekyou The entire purpuse of kishing doing that was to keep the obito identity unrevealed
Many people in the base seems to have miseed something obito didn't awaken his mangekyou In this scan
However that is not true obito's mangekyou was awakened at kannabi bridge and madara backs this Up
Read madaras words Its almost as if you were able to slip away from it Also the fact that obito s other half remained uncrushed supports this as well... Only in mangekyou uchihas obtain their special power in their normal 1 tomoe , 2 tomoe , 3 tomoe they share the same sharingan Properties
Now That Obito is Done i m gona Address some People who think sasuke doesn't posses tsukyomi and i find that to be Untrue... Kishi has Made us realize that unlike any other genjutsu tsukyomi appears a bit different in the manga
First take a look at the very first tsukyomi we saw in the manga
Tsukyomi is respresented In a different Way from all the other genjutsu yet kishi Still hasen't changed his style here we se sasuke activating mangekyou and Actually using tsukyomi (even if it was weaker than itachis It was still tsukyomi .. Itachi had time to train His tsukyomi Unlike Sasuke)
As you can see Its the same genjutsu mark and to show you that Kishi still uses the same genjutsu mark On tsukyomi this was showen in the chapters of brothers vs Kabuto .. Notice Sasuke s body its the same mark and itachi even said he used tsukyomi and notice sasuke s genjutsu which was not tsukyomi but an other sharingan genjutsu
Now why didn't sasuke use tsukyomi well First of all he hasn't trained it and as we all know an untrained tsukyomi not that great results as we saw at the bee case also tsukyomi drains a ton of chakra (Itachi said this) unlike itachi sasuke wasn't an edo that means he had To preserve his chakra Also an other theory about this might be the fact that since sasuke hasn't trained his tsukyomi it isn't its most powerful genjutsu in his arsenal yet idkn which one of the reasons is but i m sure its one of them
And Now For the last part of this thread Its actuaclly 10 tails casting the genjtusu on the moon Not Madara (many people misconcept this) The truth is this is the biggiest reason i m making this thread people belive that Its Madara using the 10 tails s chakra to cast the infinite tsukyomi but the truth Is its the other way around Its Madara Controling the 10 Tails and Using its actual visual Powers and chakra to cast the infinite tsukyomi and here Let me explain Why !!
First of all as we all Know obito was also Able to cast infinite tsukyomi he actually admited this and as we all know obito doesn't posses tsukyomi .. I m not sure about Madara because Hell Kishi changes his mind about this manga however he wants too (that sasuanoo No eyes) However on theory since Madara has susanno he should also posses amaterasu and tsukyomi However as i said that Kishii ass pull of susanoo No eyes made me dought this however at obito s case its proven That he has one of the rare eyes who posses both the same abillty 2 people have been showned at the manga that posses Only 1 abillity on their eyes And it was Complete HAX shisui which Possesed in both of his eyes kotoamatuskami And obito which In both of his eyes possesed Kamui (1 being short range but faster teleportation the other being long rage but slower one ) as you can see obito doesn't posses tsukyomi but he can cast it ? how ? the answer is simple The 10 tails we know he has a sharingan and a rinnengan ... And that means that the actuall rinnengan can evolve even further madara confirmed this as well In one of the recent chapters... 10 tails possees the final Eye and i belive that its that eye that Actually Posses tsukyomi as well as the other Jutsus of Mangekyou... after all Obito said he d cast tsukyomi without actuaclly possesing it as i said he would actuaclly use the 10 tails s eye to reflect on the moon and cast tsukyomi Throught 10 tails ... SO that s the end of my thread Sry for the very long post Thnx for reading
So as you know kishi before reaviling Obito s identity was making us belive that obito could actually kamui with 3 tomoe which is not Real at all you see All the Normal sharingans have shown no other abillity than their actual base one which means All 3 tomoe Sharingans share the same features unlike mangekyou The entire purpuse of kishing doing that was to keep the obito identity unrevealed
Many people in the base seems to have miseed something obito didn't awaken his mangekyou In this scan
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However that is not true obito's mangekyou was awakened at kannabi bridge and madara backs this Up
You must be registered for see images
Read madaras words Its almost as if you were able to slip away from it Also the fact that obito s other half remained uncrushed supports this as well... Only in mangekyou uchihas obtain their special power in their normal 1 tomoe , 2 tomoe , 3 tomoe they share the same sharingan Properties
Now That Obito is Done i m gona Address some People who think sasuke doesn't posses tsukyomi and i find that to be Untrue... Kishi has Made us realize that unlike any other genjutsu tsukyomi appears a bit different in the manga
First take a look at the very first tsukyomi we saw in the manga
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Tsukyomi is respresented In a different Way from all the other genjutsu yet kishi Still hasen't changed his style here we se sasuke activating mangekyou and Actually using tsukyomi (even if it was weaker than itachis It was still tsukyomi .. Itachi had time to train His tsukyomi Unlike Sasuke)
You must be registered for see images
As you can see Its the same genjutsu mark and to show you that Kishi still uses the same genjutsu mark On tsukyomi this was showen in the chapters of brothers vs Kabuto .. Notice Sasuke s body its the same mark and itachi even said he used tsukyomi and notice sasuke s genjutsu which was not tsukyomi but an other sharingan genjutsu
You must be registered for see images
Now why didn't sasuke use tsukyomi well First of all he hasn't trained it and as we all know an untrained tsukyomi not that great results as we saw at the bee case also tsukyomi drains a ton of chakra (Itachi said this) unlike itachi sasuke wasn't an edo that means he had To preserve his chakra Also an other theory about this might be the fact that since sasuke hasn't trained his tsukyomi it isn't its most powerful genjutsu in his arsenal yet idkn which one of the reasons is but i m sure its one of them
And Now For the last part of this thread Its actuaclly 10 tails casting the genjtusu on the moon Not Madara (many people misconcept this) The truth is this is the biggiest reason i m making this thread people belive that Its Madara using the 10 tails s chakra to cast the infinite tsukyomi but the truth Is its the other way around Its Madara Controling the 10 Tails and Using its actual visual Powers and chakra to cast the infinite tsukyomi and here Let me explain Why !!
First of all as we all Know obito was also Able to cast infinite tsukyomi he actually admited this and as we all know obito doesn't posses tsukyomi .. I m not sure about Madara because Hell Kishi changes his mind about this manga however he wants too (that sasuanoo No eyes) However on theory since Madara has susanno he should also posses amaterasu and tsukyomi However as i said that Kishii ass pull of susanoo No eyes made me dought this however at obito s case its proven That he has one of the rare eyes who posses both the same abillty 2 people have been showned at the manga that posses Only 1 abillity on their eyes And it was Complete HAX
shisui which Possesed in both of his eyes kotoamatuskami And obito which In both of his eyes possesed Kamui (1 being short range but faster teleportation the other being long rage but slower one ) as you can see obito doesn't posses tsukyomi but he can cast it ? how ? the answer is simple The 10 tails we know he has a sharingan and a rinnengan ... And that means that the actuall rinnengan can evolve even further madara confirmed this as well In one of the recent chapters... 10 tails possees the final Eye and i belive that its that eye that Actually Posses tsukyomi as well as the other Jutsus of Mangekyou... after all Obito said he d cast tsukyomi without actuaclly possesing it as i said he would actuaclly use the 10 tails s eye to reflect on the moon and cast tsukyomi Throught 10 tails ... SO that s the end of my thread Sry for the very long post Thnx for reading 
