Mangekyou Sharingan........Black Hole no Jutsu!

[Legendary Broly]

Madara gave Nagato his own Rinnegan, the eyes he awakened after losing to Hashirama. He knew the secrets on the Uchiha tablet, and fought Hashirama solely to gain his DNA and awaken those eyes.

okay so yes i agree madara used hashi cells to unlock rinnegan , madara gave nagato his rinnegan , but this doesnt explain why you think tobi's madara ! unless your saying tobi's a madara clone he cloned before he unlocked rinnegan so the tobi clone would only have ems ? but then again tobi also has senju dna so why wouldn't he have his own rinnegan ?? , thats why i think he only has ms because if he has ems , he has all the apparent requirements to obtain rinnegan, the senju dna , the powerful chakra i.e but because he doesn't have ems he cant get his own rinnegan because you can only get rinnegan if you have ems you cant just skip from ms to rinnegan
i believe tobi's technique is his own and not shared with madara

 

[The God of Wind]

okay so yes i agree madara used hashi cells to unlock rinnegan , madara gave nagato his rinnegan , but this doesnt explain why you think tobi's madara ! unless your saying tobi's a madara clone he cloned before he unlocked rinnegan so the tobi clone would only have ems ? but then again tobi also has senju dna so why wouldn't he have his own rinnegan ?? , thats why i think he only has ms because if he has ems , he has all the apparent requirements to obtain rinnegan, the senju dna , the powerful chakra i.e but because he doesn't have ems he cant get his own rinnegan

I hate to say it, but that my friend is the loop hole in Kishi's story
BUT! I think it might have something to do with this:

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And this:

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[Kurama2012]

He sucked in Fuu without touching him. If it is clear to you that it is an eye jutsu, cuz evidently he is sucking them into his eye and transporting them elsewhere, then it would have to be an MS Ninjutsu, just like Amaterasu and Kamui.[/QUOTE]

then why did he touch torune when it was more dangerous to touch him

 

[The God of Wind]

then why did he touch torune when it was more dangerous to touch him

The answer is in the time it took him to suck them up individually. He percieved Torune as a bigger threat and did not want to waste any time. So I think by touching his victims he sucks them in faster.

 

[Legendary Broly]

I hate to say it, but that my friend is the loop hole in Kishi's story
BUT! I think it might have something to do with this:

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And this:

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i must admit it is a very big loop hole , i'm so confused as to what he means by 'take out the rinnegan' ,
what i see from this is he means take back the rinnegan from nagato, and also i dont understand why tobi has so many sharingans in his lab , this could mean he does lose his light because he doesnt have ems so he needs to continue to replace his eyes ?? maybe thats how he ties in with obito, the current sharingan hes using is his thats why it shares similar abilities with kakashi's ?? (still don't think hes obito btw )

i was thinking though again about your theory , about madara having the black hole no jutsu ( i'll call it for now) that could explain how he escaped in the hashi fight , he could of sucked himself away to that dimension ?

 

[The God of Wind]

i was thinking though again about your theory , about madara having the black hole no jutsu ( i'll call it for now) that could explain how he escaped in the hashi fight , he could of sucked himself away to that dimension ?

Nope, he died. He made sure Hashirama believed that he did, and in all actuality he did DIE! He unlocked his Rinnegan through Hashirama's cells, it was the real Rinnegan with its true and full powers, on a completely different scale than what Nagato could do with it, an Uzumaki with an implanted Rinnegan cannot utilise it to its full potential. But Madara could, HE WAS TRULY OUTSIDE LIFE AND DEATH! And that is how I believe he still lives even though he does not!

 

[Legendary Broly]

Nope, he died. He made sure Hashirama believed that he did, and in all actuality he did DIE! He unlocked his Rinnegan through Hashirama's cells, it was the real Rinnegan with its true and full powers, on a completely different scale than what Nagato could do with it, an Uzumaki with an implanted Rinnegan cannot utilise it to its full potential. But Madara could, HE WAS TRULY OUTSIDE LIFE AND DEATH! And that is how I believe he still lives even though he does not!

LOL thats so confusing and hard to get my head around , but i get you now the power of the rinnegan caused madara to not die , but die, a weaker version was created of him which means no ems , a few of his powers etc. okay i think i finally understand what you meant
and now that i know its not a bad idea
I'm still not entirely convinced tobi is madara , sorry buddy , but you have defiantly opened my mind up to the possibility that i had ruled out , hey if he ends up being him i'll give you all my kumi ,
SO rep+ for opening my mind and for a good theory now that i get it lol

 

[The God of Wind]

LOL thats so confusing and hard to get my head around , but i get you now the power of the rinnegan caused madara to not die , but die, a weaker version was created of him which means no ems , a few of his powers etc. okay i think i finally understand what you meant
and now that i know its not a bad idea
I'm still not entirely convinced tobi is madara , sorry buddy , but you have defiantly opened my mind up to the possibility that i had ruled out , hey if he ends up being him i'll give you all my kumi ,
SO rep+ for opening my mind and for a good theory now that i get it lol

Hey you're welcome! But it kinda sucks that most people aren't interested in this, I would really like to hear more opinions, but everyone is either in a vs thread(which is totally pointless IMO)or discussing Naruto and Sasuke's love life which is just LOL!:sy: But thanks........

 

[Legendary Broly]

Hey you're welcome! But it kinda sucks that most people aren't interested in this, I would really like to hear more opinions, but everyone is either in a vs thread(which is totally pointless IMO)or discussing Naruto and Sasuke's love life which is just LOL!:sy: But thanks........

LOL yes i agree i hate it when you make a super awesome new thread that can create discussion but then they all stick to what they know and get all angry when they see their fav character being beaten or whatever and spend all their time in these threads trying to prove the other person wrong i mean we tried to prove eachother wrong but it was interesting because it was about something new