Mangekyou Sharingan........Black Hole no Jutsu!

[The God of Wind]

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Madara's one and only jutsu before acquiring the rinnegan. It seems to me that everything is swallowed within its range, no physical contact required, UNLESS.........Madara is fighting a tough opponent and needs to swallow at a faster pace(vs 4th). The basic principles of it are pretty obvious:
Madara's eye is the medium to another dimension or space between time, clearly! Making it a transfer/teleportation eye technique on the highest level without an equal, as acknowledged by the Fourth Hokage, and therefore it is safe to say that it is most definitely a Mangekyou Sharingan Jutsu.
Madara can only perform it offensively by making himself intangible or else he would swallow himself. I think there is more than one dimension within that jutsu, one for keeping enemies captive and bound by his Sharingan Genjutsu and the other for allies and himself.
All in all, it has the same elements as a Black Hole.

So lets get some fresh opinions in......and we might even be able to come up with some good ideas about his Mangekyou powers.

 

[Legendary Broly]

i like your theory i just hate how your calling TOBI madara when he clearly isn't the bit i'm half/half about is if it is a mangekyou technique how come he isn't losing his light he uses it all the time :/

 

[The God of Wind]

i like your theory i just hate how your calling TOBI madara when he clearly isn't the bit i'm half/half about is if it is a mangekyou technique how come he isn't losing his light he uses it all the time :/

Because he has EMS unlocked and........imo the reason the true Madara(edo), has not used that jutsu is because he did not die with it or it was removed before he died and it is still active in the fake Madara.

 

[Legendary Broly]

Because he has EMS unlocked and........imo the reason the true Madara(edo), has not used that jutsu is because he did not die with it or it was removed before he died and it is still active in the fake Madara.

okay i don't necessarily agree with this , i believe tobi and madara are two separate beings , and madara has shown he can turn the rinnegan back to ems so he did die with it :/ hmm but thinking about it kakashi uses kamui alot so maybe tobi is like him not going blind yet ? and btw if tobi had ems why would he have to steal nagato's rinnegan why not evolve his own ems ? i dont think tobi has ems , ms yes but yeah not ems

 

[WhistleBlower]

i like ur theory n who cares if he teleports himself in another dimension than to the dimension he keeps others in ?? i jsut wanna see his a$$ whooped with a tag team which attacks simultaneously by naruto, killer bee, kakashi and Gai now tat wud be epic

 

[The God of Wind]

okay i don't necessarily agree with this , i believe tobi and madara are two separate beings , and madara has shown he can turn the rinnegan back to ems so he did die with it :/ hmm but thinking about it kakashi uses kamui alot so maybe tobi is like him not going blind yet ? and btw if tobi had ems why would he have to steal nagato's rinnegan why not evolve his own ems ? i dont think tobi has ems , ms yes but yeah not ems

Nagato's Rinnegan was never his own. Madara gave it to him, then took it back. Btw, he was the one that controlled Yagura, and there is no doubt that he has survived since his battle with Hashirama. Even after Kabuto summoned Edo Madara, he was still talking about fighting Hashirama and stealing his cells, who else would talk that way even after his secret was out. We just don't know his real secret, the one that will explain how he is alive and dead at the same time. He obviously lost all his powers and kept just the one.

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[Scooby Doo]

If it was a black hole, he couldnt escape from it.

 

[The God of Wind]

If it was a black hole, he couldnt escape from it.

Normally people cannot unless you have a jutsu to instantly warp yourself away(FTG), dont think of it as a black hole in space, but as Madara's own personal black hole, which he controls. He can swallow them up, or spit them out. Its his own form of travel and his weapon. Sounds like an EMS jutsu to me.

 

[-S-]

No it's not

The Chibaku Tensei is a black hole. A singularity of great gravitational attraction.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Normally people cannot unless you have a jutsu to instantly warp yourself away(FTG), dont think of it as a black hole in space, but as Madara's own personal black hole, which he controls. He can swallow them up, or spit them out. Its his own form of travel and his weapon. Sounds like an EMS jutsu to me.

Ok I understand the metaphor And yes, its similar to kamui, but maybe he can use space-time nunjutsu like Minato, just an improved version. He had decades to perfect it.

 

[Legendary Broly]

Nagato's Rinnegan was never his own. Madara gave it to him, then took it back. Btw, he was the one that controlled Yagura, and there is no doubt that he has survived since his battle with Hashirama. Even after Kabuto summoned Edo Madara, he was still talking about fighting Hashirama and stealing his cells, who else would talk that way even after his secret was out. We just don't know his real secret, the one that will explain how he is alive and dead at the same time. He obviously lost all his powers and kept just the one.

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you sort of have a point BUT i'm a little confused i cant identify whether your talking about the real madara or tobi madara (in your opinion) sorry if i misinterpret this wrong .. heres what i think

are you saying tobi madara gave the rinnegan and took it back off nagato or real madara ? if so then doing this would mean tobi madara would of given nagato his eyes , he'd be blind, he'd have to get a new pair of eyes which means they arent related to madara therefore neither is the technique the black hole no jutsu or whatever you call it
it makes more sense for tobi to have given nagato someone elses eye - Madara's rinnegan and if your saying their the same person then tobi should have a pair of his own ,

 

[Michiyo]

I don't think Tobi and Madara are one and the same.
To perform edi tensei the person has to be dead and his soul musn't be bound with a jutsu (like the 4th hokage). If Tobi would be Madara kabuto wouldn't have been able to summon him with edo tensei.
I still believe that tobi has something to do with obito, because the sharingan of kakashi and tobi do the same. They warp things away. The reason why the warping of tobi is better is because he is a real Uchiha so the powers of the sharingan manifest better in his body than kakashi who is a non-uchiha.

 

[The God of Wind]

Ok I understand the metaphor And yes, its similar to kamui, but maybe he can use space-time nunjutsu like Minato, just an improved version. He had decades to perfect it.

That is a definite possiblity. Good one. Do you know what Kamui means in english? I would like to know.

I don't think Tobi and Madara are one and the same.
To perform edi tensei the person has to be dead and his soul musn't be bound with a jutsu (like the 4th hokage). If Tobi would be Madara kabuto wouldn't have been able to summon him with edo tensei.
I still believe that tobi has something to do with obito, because the sharingan of kakashi and tobi do the same. They warp things away. The reason why the warping of tobi is better is because he is a real Uchiha so the powers of the sharingan manifest better in his body than kakashi who is a non-uchiha.

We just have a difference in opinion then. But I like your theory too. Remember he acquired the Rinnegan the proper way. Konan said those who possess the Rinnegan are outside life and death. I think he is the true heir of the Rinnegan and can do things on a whole another level than what Nagato could do.

 

[Scooby Doo]

That is a definite possiblity. Good one. Do you know what Kamui means in english? I would like to know.

Kamui is Kakashi's mangekyou's space-time jutsu, I dont know what does it mean.

 

[Sage Of Six Flames]

kakshi's mangekyou jutsu is similar to that.but tobi's jutsu doesnt look like a mangekyou jutsu

 

[Kurama2012]

you say he doesn't need physical contact to suck someone in but he does otherwise he could have captured the jinchuuriki a lot easier also where does it say he doesn't have to touch that person also i believe he doesn't have ms as there isn't any evidence he has it

 

[Legendary Broly]

I don't think Tobi and Madara are one and the same.
To perform edi tensei the person has to be dead and his soul musn't be bound with a jutsu (like the 4th hokage). If Tobi would be Madara kabuto wouldn't have been able to summon him with edo tensei.
I still believe that tobi has something to do with obito, because the sharingan of kakashi and tobi do the same. They warp things away. The reason why the warping of tobi is better is because he is a real Uchiha so the powers of the sharingan manifest better in his body than kakashi who is a non-uchiha.

THIS ASWELL supports my comment that tobi and madara are different
yeah more likely has something to do with obito
( dont necessarily believe its him though)

 

[The God of Wind]

you sort of have a point BUT i'm a little confused i cant identify whether your talking about the real madara or tobi madara (in your opinion) sorry if i misinterpret this wrong .. heres what i think

are you saying tobi madara gave the rinnegan and took it back off nagato or real madara ? if so then doing this would mean tobi madara would of given nagato his eyes , he'd be blind, he'd have to get a new pair of eyes which means they arent related to madara therefore neither is the technique the black hole no jutsu or whatever you call it
it makes more sense for tobi to have given nagato someone elses eye - Madara's rinnegan and if your saying their the same person then tobi should have a pair of his own ,

Madara gave Nagato his own Rinnegan, the eyes he awakened after losing to Hashirama. He knew the secrets on the Uchiha tablet, and fought Hashirama solely to gain his DNA and awaken those eyes.

you say he doesn't need physical contact to suck someone in but he does otherwise he could have captured the jinchuuriki a lot easier also where does it say he doesn't have to touch that person also i believe he doesn't have ms as there isn't any evidence he has it

He sucked in Fuu without touching him. If it is clear to you that it is an eye jutsu, cuz evidently he is sucking them into his eye and transporting them elsewhere, then it would have to be an MS Ninjutsu, just like Amaterasu and Kamui.

 

[Braveknight]

Rascist people. Say white hole xd

 

[-S-]

Rascist people. Say white hole xd

Well, actually, hypothetically, white holes do exist as the inverse of black holes.