[Theory] Mangekyo Special Abilities

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Hello, everyone! I'm whipping out a theory I've been thinking of for a while now. Mainly, how some Uchiha gained different Mangekyo Abilities from others. My friend gave me the starting base of the theory, so I'll start Obito and the Kamui.

As we all know, Obito was stuck in Madara's care for around a few months, correct? I'll have to check later, but I remember that Madara had explained his Moon's Eye Plan to Obito before Rin's death. And as Obito says at some point during the Ten Tail's Revival Arc (I believe during his fight with Kakashi) this world cannot be real due to Rin not being alive.

How does this relate? It's already been shown that Obito really does love Rin; him making the Juubi his ***** out of his love for Rin is evidence of that. It's my belief that when Obito witnessed Rin's death, as his Mangekyo activated, the Kamui dimension was created, representing his desire for another world. This can also be seen in his fighting style; mainly shifting to the Kamui dimension constantly, as opposed to crushing the opponent with Mokuton.

Now, my friend's theory on Obito had gotten me thinking; what about Itachi, and Sasuke?

Lets take a look at those who unlocked the trio of Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, and Susano'o. All who unlocked them were a) brothers and b)protecting something.

Madara and Izuna were both focused on protecting the clan during the Warring States Era.

Itachi was focused on protecting Konoha, and Sasuke.

Sasuke was difficult, but I've placed him as protecting the honor of the Uchiha when he gained his Mangekyo.

During Sasuke's fight against Danzo, it states that Sasuke's genjutsu pales in comparison to Itachi, who could inflict genjutsu with a mere flick of his finger. Considering Itachi was forced to adopt a mature mindset at a young age, and his frequent talks of 'Reality' and 'Death', it's clear he has a pretty good understanding of the world, which is why his Genjutsu's are so realistic.

Sasuke, on the other hand, has always been more of a direct character; between the choices of ambushing Danzo or attacking the Five Kage Summit, he chose the attacking the summit idea. Or when he was thirteen, and thought he could kill Itachi with a chidori. This can be shown in how his genjutsu is weaker than Itachi's; Sasuke barely has a decent hold on reality, do you really expect him to create an illusionary world?

And now...Shisui and Kotoamatsukami.

Now, this theory relies on Shisui being a member of Root, as explained in thread.

It's shown that Root is fiercely loyal to Danzo. Fu was willing to gouge out his own eye to retrieve Ao's Byakugan as Danzo had ordered, and Danzo places a seal on every member of Root so they can't share his secrets. As stated in -Nagato-'s thread, Danzo was Kagami Uchiha's teammate, who is Shisui's father. It's possible Shisui was forced into Root by Kagami, possibly as a favor to Danzo.

It's been mentioned that members of Root are forced to kill their best friend in order to complete their emotion training; Shisui most likely was ordered to kill his best friend, and unlocked his Mangekyo Sharingan, considering it has yet to be revealed how he obtained it.

Now, what would Shisui get? The trio of Ama, Tsu, Sus? Kamui? No, a boy who was forced to follow orders all his life obtained the ability that would let HIM be in charge for once; Kotoamatsukami, stated to be 'a genjutsu of the highest calibre.' This ability may have allowed Shisui to be able to resist Danzo to some effect; he states that Danzo stole his right eye, but it isn't explained how he escaped with his left. And I'm pretty damn sure Danzo would never had let Shisui get away with giving his sharingan to Itachi of all people.

So? What do you guys think? Go easy on me, this is my very first thread. Be gentle, Senpai!
 

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Dude this makes total sense. So their MS abilities awaken considering to their beliefs/mentality.

Itachi can create an illusionary world because of his reality philosophy.

Sasuke's susanoo can shoot enton arrows because he is a direct shinobi like you said, he is very offensive and always spamming jutsus/attacking

Obito wanted to create a different dimension because of Rin's death -> beliavable.

And also Shisui feeling deprived of making choices because of Anbu and using Koto he could make people follow his orders.
 

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The abilities of the Mangekyō Sharingan relates probably to the structure and appearance of the Tomoe. If you remember Madaras statement regarding Sasukes movements, he said Sasuke can move so well, because his Mangekyo has "Choku Tomoe"(straight Tomoe).
Maybe it's the same with the Jutsu of the Mangekyō.
 

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Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi being required for Susanoo is still Unknown. It's likely, but Unconfirmed.

As for the rest of it, Most of it is beliveable, but Shisui is a bit hard to belive, Even if you assume he is a Root Member.

I think that it's more likely that Each Mangekyo just has their own powers, Regardless of the circumstances of the Awakening.
 

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I like this thread a lot, + Repped. :)
 

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you explained it much better than the other dude that made this kind of theory some time ago (don't remember his name)
i think you might also enjoy my theory on sharingan abillities:
i'd like to put this possibillity forward for you lot to debate about:eek:ther than genjutus and izanagi/izanami, wich are actual ocular prowels, a sharingan makes you capable of mastering a jutsu further than a normal human being could.. the path of pain's abillities were never just the sage's, they were just extremely well executed jutsu that require molding and control that a normal human being never could...

chakra absorbtion
advanced fire jutsu
bringing a soul back from the dead, or even in that old lady wich i forgot the name of, complete ressurection.
chakra cloaks or armors
perceiving the enviroment from multiple entities at once
space time ninjutsu
and so on and so on..

i bet you every single non-doujutsu sharingan and rinnegan abillity could be achieved as long as you have the knowledge.. now i'm also sure that for example the susano is indeed only achievable by those that have attained the mangekyo sharingan BUT that might just be because before you got that far, there is simply no way to get a connection with said susano(whatever that connection might be, it suggests to be somewhat spiritual of nature but you cant possibly predict that without utter luck as the narutoverse uses several religions for its "spirituallity").
your theory fits right in, showing that it is that which a uchiha desires/puts his focus to that becomes his ms/ems abillity.
oh also, on a side note, double posting is frowned uppon by the narutobase for some reason, so try to avoid doing that in the future:).
 
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you explained it much better than the other dude that made this kind of theory some time ago (don't remember his name)
i think you might also enjoy my theory on sharingan abillities:
well since we are sharing

 

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well since we are sharing


you might be right, and these abillities might actually already be known in the narutoverse.. kakashi and obito both independently called their abillity kamui which might mean that, like susano and amaterasu, those abillities also already have a name. (each uchiha seems to have his or her own adaptation of that certain abillity though)
 
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you might be right, and these abillities might actually already be known in the narutoverse.. kakashi and obito both independently called their abillity kamui which might mean that, like susano and amaterasu, those abillities also already have a name.
im pretty sure rinnegan will not be sasukes final powerup

he is a main character he needs something unique just as naruto
 

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Each power in the Narutoverse is connected the users feelings and ideals. ( Note, I said power and not every jutsu. ) Your theory explains that rather well, but I can only say that I fully agree with you on Itachi and Obito.
 

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im pretty sure rinnegan will not be sasukes final powerup

he is a main character he needs something unique just as naruto
we do not know if each rinnegan has it's own techniques yet so i think its a bit early to say that a rinnegan couldn't be unique.
 

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im pretty sure rinnegan will not be sasukes final powerup

he is a main character he needs something unique just as naruto

He may get the Sharingan which Kaguya had, the one that looked like the Juubi's. However, if he gets the Rinnegan then he will get it directly from Hagoromo himself. That would make it unique and stronger than Madara's.
 

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Awesome thread, especially liked the obito/kamui explaination. Repped
 
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