[VS] Mangekyo Sasuke & Sage Mode Naruto Vs. Kakashi & Gaara

[BenjerminGaye]

No. I said Sasuke arrow would make Rasen shuriken exploed. I was talking bout the one he used against Danzo, but you brought up Enton arrow

Ohh.. well then no. That arrow is made out of chakra and cho frs has both size and elemental superiority.

And there should be no reason why either of the two can't dodge/ change the direction of sasuke's arrows if they're targeted at them.

 

[Minator93]

Both teams are trying to win, so what do you think

Close or long range had nothing to do with his Kamui, he couldn't phase through Amaterasu cause he never saw it coming. Try again.

He's not gonna use phasing. He'll Kamui the flames. But he won't need this since Sasuke and Itachi get there upper bodies inside of Kamui dimension the moment match starts Lol

 

[Champ]

Ohh.. well then no. That arrow is made out of chakra and cho frs has both size and elemental superiority.

And there should be no reason why either of the two can't dodge/ change the direction of sasuke's arrows if they're targeted at them.

What element advantage? Wind > Chakra? There's no reason why Rasen Shuriken wouldn't explode if an Arrow hits it. Do you not read the manga? Kakashi already said he can't dodge Sasuke arrows.

He's not gonna use phasing. He'll Kamui the flames. But he won't need this since Sasuke and Itachi get there upper bodies inside of Kamui dimension the moment match starts Lol

I know, Kakashi can't phase through anything. He'll get turned to ash by Amaterasu, and Minato gets raped by Itachi Tsukuyomi

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Deidara got caught by Gaara sand on purpose, so he can sneak clay mines in the sand so it would explode on Gaara which it did. Jumping high isn't going to stop Gamabunta oil. I don't deny prep, but Sasuke is also there to launch his Arrows which are to fast for them to dodge, and Madara magatama ripped right through Gaara sand he needed Onoki rock golem to help defend it, so gg. So Sasuke arrows won't have an effect on Rasen shuriken when it already consumed it?


Amaterasu already hit a Kamui user, one who is much better than Kakashi. Try again

Diedara found out the mechanics behind garra's sand after the fact not before and it still doesn't change the fact that his bird got caught, and he had to make a new one. Sasuke's bird has no speed feats or evasion feats so yeah. It's rather moot point.

Like I said if they see the frog jump they'll know he's attacking. From the sky the arrows shouldn't be a problem. Sasuke had to aim It to where danzo was landing and it all missed. Ems Madara's arrows/ everything susanno based> ms sasuke susanno based stuff.

 

[Minator93]

I know, Kakashi can't phase through anything. He'll get turned to ash by Amaterasu, and Minato gets raped by Itachi Tsukuyomi

Lel champ is butthurt Again Lol

 

[Optimistic]

Both teams are trying to win, so what do you think

Intent to kill ,means one of them are dying to Kamui.Lol

Easy win for Team 2.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

What element advantage? Wind > Chakra? There's no reason why Rasen Shuriken wouldn't explode if an Arrow hits it. Do you not read the manga? Kakashi already said he can't dodge Sasuke arrows.



I know, Kakashi can't phase through anything. He'll get turned to ash by Amaterasu, and Minato gets raped by Itachi Tsukuyomi

War arc kakashi can. Wind chakra destroys regular chakra we already saw that when naruto and kakashi clashed rasengans. And cho frs is much bigger than anything ms sasuke can throw.

 

[Champ]

War arc kakashi can. Wind chakra destroys regular chakra we already saw that when naruto and kakashi clashed rasengans. And cho frs is much bigger than anything ms sasuke can throw.

I must have missed that chapter, but when did Naruto and Kakashi clashed Rasengan? I would like to read it. Don't see what size has to do with anything, so explain how Rasen shruiken explodees since you saying nothing can effect it.

Diedara found out the mechanics behind garra's sand after the fact not before and it still doesn't change the fact that his bird got caught, and he had to make a new one. Sasuke's bird has no speed feats or evasion feats so yeah. It's rather moot point.

Like I said if they see the frog jump they'll know he's attacking. From the sky the arrows shouldn't be a problem. Sasuke had to aim It to where danzo was landing and it all missed. Ems Madara's arrows/ everything susanno based> ms sasuke susanno based stuff.

Deidara bird got caught cause they were fighting in a desert and Gaara had the geographical advantage. He's not in a desert here. Doesn't matter it's a hawk use your brain, it's not a turtle. Frog jumping isn't stopping it from spitting out oil which will negate Gaara sand. Sasuke had to aim at Kakashi and they were a far distance from each other and Kakashi couldn't dodge. Explain how Madara arrows are better than Sasuke's? I'll wait.

 

[Champ]

Lel champ is butthurt Again Lol

Since the last chapter you've been butthurt.

 

[Optimistic]

Frog jumping isn't stopping it from spitting out oil which will negate Gaara sand.

Intel: Manga

Naruto doesn't know that oil will slow down Gaara's sand nor does he know that Bunta can produce it.

Sasuke had to aim at Kakashi and they were a far distance from each other and Kakashi couldn't dodge. Explain how Madara arrows are better than Sasuke's? I'll wait.

Intent is to kill so Sasuke dies right at the start.

Kamui is faster and here's why.

Amaterasu
>Activate MS
>Build up chakra
>close eyes
>blood
>Then the move is executed.

Kamui
>Move headband up
>activate MS
>Build chakra
>Move executed

Sasuke building up Susano'o while Kakashi already has Kamui ready = Game over.

 

[Champ]

Intel: Manga

Naruto doesn't know that oil will slow down Gaara's sand nor does he know that Bunta can produce it.

Intent is to kill so Sasuke dies right at the start.

Kamui is faster and here's why.

Amaterasu
>Activate MS
>Build up chakra
>close eyes
>blood
>Then the move is executed.

Kamui
>Move headband up
>activate MS
>Build chakra
>Move executed

Sasuke building up Susano'o while Kakashi already has Kamui ready = Game over.

First what did Gamachiki do to Obito. Second so he wouldn't have his Toad fight at all? Amaterasu is faster.

 

[Optimistic]

First what did Gamachiki do to Obito. Second so he wouldn't have his Toad fight at all? Amaterasu is faster.

Wasn't even oil.

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[Champ]

Wasn't even oil.

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You said Naruto doesn't even know Gamabunta can produce oil, but he seen his own summoning produce a sticky substance. So you think Naruto would be clueless about Gamabunta ability. Thanks for the scans now naruto can disable Kakashi movements.

 

[Minator93]

Since the last chapter you've been butthurt.

Lel and that's why you mentioned Minato? why not Naruto? Lol

 

[Optimistic]

You said Naruto doesn't even know Gamabunta can produce oil, but he seen his own summoning produce a sticky substance. So you think Naruto would be clueless about Gamabunta ability. Thanks for the scans now naruto can disable Kakashi movements.

Kakashi doesn't need to move, Kamui can be used when he's stationary.Sasuke is dead so idaf, Gaara stalls for a few seconds and kakashi warps Naruto's head off.Not even a difficult fight even if Naruto uses Bunta's ability they still lose since they won't get the chance to kill Kakashi.Also Naruto doesn't even know if Sand becomes useless from oil your giving Naruto all this knowledge even though in the Op its manga knowledge meaning Naruto doesn't know how to slow down Gaara's sand.Sasuke dies, Naruto summons whatever toad, Gaara stalls, Kakashi kills Naruto with another kamui.


GG

 

[Champ]

Lel and that's why you mentioned Minato? why not Naruto? Lol

Your hypocrisy is too funny, yet you bring up Itachi when this three has nothing to do with him.

Kakashi doesn't need to move, Kamui can be used when he's stationary.Sasuke is dead so idaf, Gaara stalls for a few seconds and kakashi warps Naruto's head off.Not even a difficult fight even if Naruto uses Bunta's ability they still lose since they won't get the chance to kill Kakashi.Also Naruto doesn't even know if Sand becomes useless from oil your giving Naruto all this knowledge even though in the Op its manga knowledge meaning Naruto doesn't know how to slow down Gaara's sand.Sasuke dies, Naruto summons whatever toad, Gaara stalls, Kakashi kills Naruto with another kamui.


GG

Sasuke doesn't need to move to Amaterasu Kakashi or launch his arrows at Gaara. Naruto has clones which can all make Odama Rasengan and kill Kakashi.

 

[Optimistic]

Your hypocrisy is too funny, yet you bring up Itachi when this three has nothing to do with him.


Sasuke doesn't need to move to Amaterasu Kakashi or launch his arrows at Gaara. Naruto has clones which can all make Odama Rasengan and kill Kakashi.

already took care of Sasuke in my first post, Kamui > Amaterasu in speed Kamui takes 4 steps while amaterasu takes 5.Manufacturing V3 Susano'o takes more time than kamui and preparing arrows will also take longer. You've given me no counter to Kamui so Kakashi and gaara takes this.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I must have missed that chapter, but when did Naruto and Kakashi clashed Rasengan? I would like to read it. Don't see what size has to do with anything, so explain how Rasen shruiken explodees since you saying nothing can effect it.



Deidara bird got caught cause they were fighting in a desert and Gaara had the geographical advantage. He's not in a desert here. Doesn't matter it's a hawk use your brain, it's not a turtle. Frog jumping isn't stopping it from spitting out oil which will negate Gaara sand. Sasuke had to aim at Kakashi and they were a far distance from each other and Kakashi couldn't dodge. Explain how Madara arrows are better than Sasuke's? I'll wait.

When naruto was wind training. I guess you did Miss that chapter. I'm saying nothing that size will effect it. A standard frs cut through raikage's belt on the second pass around but didn't explode. It only exploded after a direct hit and even then it sent raikage flying a good distance before it exploded.

And garra can't change that location to a desert?

Even if it is a hawk it doesn't have the speed feats to dodge garra's sand. The hawk gets crushed and sasuke's back on the floor. Like I already said once kakashi and or garra sees a toad jump they will know to expect an attack.

The distance between kakashi and sasuke was less than 50 ft. And I doubt sasuke was aiming as correct and precise as you say since the arrows were going in different directions.

So you think there's no power difference between ms and ems?

 

[Champ]

already took care of Sasuke in my first post, Kamui > Amaterasu in speed Kamui takes 4 steps while amaterasu takes 5.Manufacturing V3 Susano'o takes more time than kamui and preparing arrows will also take longer. You've given me no counter to Kamui so Kakashi and gaara takes this.

Amaterasu has shown to be faster. Activating Susano'o take no time at all or Sasuke might be dead against A's liger bomb. you've given me no manga facts all you've said was your opinion.

When naruto was wind training. I guess you did Miss that chapter. I'm saying nothing that size will effect it. A standard frs cut through raikage's belt on the second pass around but didn't explode. It only exploded after a direct hit and even then it sent raikage flying a good distance before it exploded.

And garra can't change that location to a desert?

Even if it is a hawk it doesn't have the speed feats to dodge garra's sand. The hawk gets crushed and sasuke's back on the floor. Like I already said once kakashi and or garra sees a toad jump they will know to expect an attack.

The distance between kakashi and sasuke was less than 50 ft. And I doubt sasuke was aiming as correct and precise as you say since the arrows were going in different directions.

So you think there's no power difference between ms and ems?

I read when Naruto was learning Rasen Shuriken I never saw him and Kakashi clash Rasengan. Post a scan plz. Are you talking about 3rd Raikage when did it cut his belt? I'm starting to think you're making this all up. Doesn't change the fact if Gamabunta jumps he'll be spitting out oil. The distance between Kakashi and Sasuke during that battle is what saved Kakashi. If they were close range when Sasuke shot both arrows he'd be dead. Power difference from Sasuke we've seen a bigger Susano'o with the Eternal.

 

[Optimistic]

Amaterasu has shown to be faster. Activating Susano'o take no time at all or Sasuke might be dead against A's liger bomb. you've given me no manga facts all you've said was your opinion.

I have given you manga facts, you just refuse to listen due to your bias tendencies. All Amaterasu users must go through 5 steps. Active MS, close eyes, build up chakra, eye bleeds, open eyes to activate jutsu. Kamui is shorter, activate Ms, build chakra, just activated. Can't provide any counter so you accuse me of not using manga facts when in reality I've provided manga facts in simple steps so yo can understand. kamui is faster than the likes of Amaterasu so Susano'o going from V1 to V3 and then pulling the string to fire arrows isn't gonna out speed Kamui. Clearly you have no counter so its like i'm talking to a dead horse.