[VS] Mangekyo Sasuke & Sage Mode Naruto Vs. Kakashi & Gaara

[Champ]

I have given you manga facts, you just refuse to listen due to your bias tendencies. All Amaterasu users must go through 5 steps. Active MS, close eyes, build up chakra, eye bleeds, open eyes to activate jutsu. Kamui is shorter, activate Ms, build chakra, just activated. Can't provide any counter so you accuse me of not using manga facts when in reality I've provided manga facts in simple steps so yo can understand. kamui is faster than the likes of Amaterasu so Susano'o going from V1 to V3 and then pulling the string to fire arrows isn't gonna out speed Kamui. Clearly you have no counter so its like i'm talking to a dead horse.

This is you're mamga fact you telling me what all uchiha's must do? Haha. doesn't matter I've already said Amaterasu like Susano'o takes no time at all to use.

 

[Optimistic]

This is you're mamga fact you telling me what all uchiha's must do? Haha. doesn't matter I've already said Amaterasu like Susano'o takes no time at all to use.

What do you mean? Its manga fact that you must:
>Active MS
>close your eyes
>build up chakra(depending on how much you want it may take longer)
>eye bleeds
>AMATERASU

As a Sasuke fan you should know this like the back of your hand but sadly you don't. You saying amaterasu takes no time = opinion. Amaterasu is fast but Kamui is faster. Kamui > amaterasu > susano'o in speed. Lets end this right now your bias so you'll always dodge all the facts i throw at you while i keep on going on about the 5 basic steps of a jutsu Sasuke uses.Have a nice day. U_U

Kakashi solos these 2.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Amaterasu has shown to be faster. Activating Susano'o take no time at all or Sasuke might be dead against A's liger bomb. you've given me no manga facts all you've said was your opinion.


I read when Naruto was learning Rasen Shuriken I never saw him and Kakashi clash Rasengan. Post a scan plz. Are you talking about 3rd Raikage when did it cut his belt? I'm starting to think you're making this all up. Doesn't change the fact if Gamabunta jumps he'll be spitting out oil. The distance between Kakashi and Sasuke during that battle is what saved Kakashi. If they were close range when Sasuke shot both arrows he'd be dead. Power difference from Sasuke we've seen a bigger Susano'o with the Eternal.

Re read chapter 339. Kakashi tells them to clash rasrngans and the next page kakashi hand is smoking and injured. That injury stayed with him all the way into and after his fight with the immortals.

Yes I am. The first pass raikage flat out dodged it. Then naruto redirected it back to riakage in which he jumped over it. That time it cut his belt but didn't explode. Then on the third and final pass he hit him point blank raikage went flying and then it exploded. Chapter 554. Naruto doesn't know that oil affects garra but garra does know that the only way for naruto to hit is if he has bunta jump first. Which gives away the attack.
False. Kakashi would have still kamui'd them. He activated ms and used kamui b4 the arrows even made it to him.

So your saying ms sasuke has a bigger complete susanno than ems madara.....

 

[Champ]

What do you mean? Its manga fact that you must:
>Active MS
>close your eyes
>build up chakra(depending on how much you want it may take longer)
>eye bleeds
>AMATERasu

As a Sasuke fan you should know this like the back of your hand but sadly you don't. You saying amaterasu takes no time = opinion. Amaterasu is fast but Kamui is faster. Kamui > amaterasu > susano'o in speed. Lets end this right now your bias so you'll always dodge all the facts i throw at you while i keep on going on about the 5 basic steps of a jutsu Sasuke uses.Have a nice day. U_U

Kakashi solos these 2.

In terms of activating speed: Susano'o > Amaterasu > Kamui. Already told you Amaterasu owns Kakashi, deal with it.

Re read chapter 339. Kakashi tells them to clash rasrngans and the next page kakashi hand is smoking and injured. That injury stayed with him all the way into and after his fight with the immortals.

Yes I am. The first pass raikage flat out dodged it. Then naruto redirected it back to riakage in which he jumped over it. That time it cut his belt but didn't explode. Then on the third and final pass he hit him point blank raikage went flying and then it exploded. Chapter 554. Naruto doesn't know that oil affects garra but garra does know that the only way for naruto to hit is if he has bunta jump first. Which gives away the attack.
False. Kakashi would have still kamui'd them. He activated ms and used kamui b4 the arrows even made it to him.

I read that chapter, so wait did Kakashi rasengan tank Rasen shuriken? Wasn't Naruto in Chakra mode when he hit 3rd Raikage with Rasen Shuriken? Kakashi Mangekyo wasn't active when Sasuke launched them arrows, so if it was short range he would've died. Why does Naruto have to tell Gamabunta about the oil? Naruto didn't tell part one Gamabunta to shoot air bullets but he did it anyway.

 

[Shura]

Kakashi solos these 2.

What? .​

 

[genii96]

Deidara got caught by Gaara sand on purpose, so he can sneak clay mines in the sand so it would explode on Gaara which it did. Jumping high isn't going to stop Gamabunta oil. I don't deny prep, but Sasuke is also there to launch his Arrows which are to fast for them to dodge, and Madara magatama ripped right through Gaara sand he needed Onoki rock golem to help defend it, so gg. So Sasuke arrows won't have an effect on Rasen shuriken when it already consumed it?


Amaterasu already hit a Kamui user, one who is much better than Kakashi. Try again

deidara dint get caught on purpose thats a big lie,he got blitzed and got his arm crushed. Gaara can easily fly away from bunta's oil,or better yet,hit bunta from below,before he has a chance to react,i'd love to see bunta nullify this,

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The arrows already got shitted on by a crappy moukton,and the ems version got shitted on by a stony pillar,gaara dosent dodge or need handseals to block it,so arrows are blocked. Madara threw dozens of magatama,which would easily break through that pillar,or the crappy moukton.

Enton arrows engulfed rasenshuriken,which is an ems move. Sasuke dosent have a legged susanoo to protect him from underneath,so giant sand arms and gg.

Amaterasu for an ms user requires a prep time,once the eye bleed comes out,sand will be ready to block.

Gaara and kakashi mid diff at most

 

[Optimistic]

What? .​

Kakashi solos these 2.

 

[Shura]

Kakashi solos these 2.

Eh, how exactly is he beating Sasuke? Don't care about Naruto.​

 

[Optimistic]

Eh, how exactly is he beating Sasuke? Don't care about Naruto.​

Kamui gg this bloodlusted Kakashi.

 

[Champ]

deidara dint get caught on purpose thats a big lie,he got blitzed and got his arm crushed. Gaara can easily fly away from bunta's oil,or better yet,hit bunta from below,before he has a chance to react,i'd love to see bunta nullify this,

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The arrows already got shitted on by a crappy moukton,and the ems version got shitted on by a stony pillar,gaara dosent dodge or need handseals to block it,so arrows are blocked. Madara threw dozens of magatama,which would easily break through that pillar,or the crappy moukton.

Enton arrows engulfed rasenshuriken,which is an ems move. Sasuke dosent have a legged susanoo to protect him from underneath,so giant sand arms and gg.

Amaterasu for an ms user requires a prep time,once the eye bleed comes out,sand will be ready to block.

Gaara and kakashi mid diff at most

Deidara got caught on purpose and his clay bombs owned Gaara. Gamabunta doesn't need to negate that sand tsunami cause there location isn't at the war where sand is everywhere. Gaara sand defense already got owned by Kimimaro, Sasuke, Mizukage, Lee, Madara lil Magatama and his sword. Arrows kill Gaara. Gaara doesn't have Onoki here so he can't breach Susano'o. Gaara gets owned like he always does.

 

[Shura]

Kamui gg this bloodlusted Kakashi.

I don't see anything about Kakashi being bloodlusted in the OP. Sasuke has numerous ways of countering Kamui.​

 

[Optimistic]

I don't see anything about Kakashi being bloodlusted in the OP. Sasuke has numerous ways of countering Kamui.​

I asked Champ in the thread, he said they want to take each other out. He claims Sasuke will use amaterasu right away so i'm taking it as bloodlusted.Kakashi takes Sasuke out easily and Gaara can stall Naruto until kakashi is ready to kamui his head off.

 

[genii96]

Deidara got caught on purpose and his clay bombs owned Gaara. Gamabunta doesn't need to negate that sand tsunami cause there location isn't at the war where sand is everywhere. Gaara sand defense already got owned by Kimimaro, Sasuke, Mizukage, Lee, Madara lil Magatama and his sword. Arrows kill Gaara. Gaara doesn't have Onoki here so he can't breach Susano'o. Gaara gets owned like he always does.

lol what?,he didnt even see the giant sand prison gaara caught him in,and when he escaped his arm gets crushed. You are still going on about the desert thing?,gaara vs kimimaro was in a desert too right?

Kimi's strongest bone broke on gaara's defence,sasuke only gave him a small wound,mizukage had oil,and still lost,lee got owned despite using 5 gates and couldnt breach sand armour,madara is so far above sasuk it is not even funny.

sasuke's arrows got owned by a pillar Lol. Gaara,Ay,mei,tsunade,danzo,onoki etc,have breached susanoo too. So whats your point?.

Breach susanoo?,Lol there is a wide opening at the bottom,sasuke gets killed inside his own susanoo.

Sasuke got owned by a blind madara with a simple katon,and he has gotten owned several times.

 

[Netferarri]

This could go either way.. Pretty good match up.​

 

[Zavage10]

lol what?,he didnt even see the giant sand prison gaara caught him in,and when he escaped his arm gets crushed. You are still going on about the desert thing?,gaara vs kimimaro was in a desert too right?

Kimi's strongest bone broke on gaara's defence,sasuke only gave him a small wound,mizukage had oil,and still lost,lee got owned despite using 5 gates and couldnt breach sand armour,madara is so far above sasuk it is not even funny.

sasuke's arrows got owned by a pillar Lol. Gaara,Ay,mei,tsunade,danzo,onoki etc,have breached susanoo too. So whats your point?.

Breach susanoo?,Lol there is a wide opening at the bottom,sasuke gets killed inside his own susanoo.

Sasuke got owned by a blind madara with a simple katon,and he has gotten owned several times.

Kakashi has lost to zabuza, itachi, kakuzu, and he also failed to kill diedara...he was even killed by Deva.. his track record is not that good.

 

[genii96]

Kakashi has lost to zabuza, itachi, kakuzu, and he also failed to kill diedara...he was even killed by Deva.. his track record is not that good.

true,i was just telling champ that sasuke dosent have a perfect track record either

 

[BenjerminGaye]

In terms of activating speed: Susano'o > Amaterasu > Kamui. Already told you Amaterasu owns Kakashi, deal with it.



I read that chapter, so wait did Kakashi rasengan tank Rasen shuriken? Wasn't Naruto in Chakra mode when he hit 3rd Raikage with Rasen Shuriken? Kakashi Mangekyo wasn't active when Sasuke launched them arrows, so if it was short range he would've died. Why does Naruto have to tell Gamabunta about the oil? Naruto didn't tell part one Gamabunta to shoot air bullets but he did it anyway.

They clashed rasengans, only kakashi got hurt. Chakra mode has nothing to do with nothing.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Kakashi has lost to zabuza, itachi, kakuzu, and he also failed to kill diedara...he was even killed by Deva.. his track record is not that good.

His track record might not be flawless but he has fought the most akaski members and tricked all of them.

 

[Champ]

lol what?,he didnt even see the giant sand prison gaara caught him in,and when he escaped his arm gets crushed. You are still going on about the desert thing?,gaara vs kimimaro was in a desert too right?

Kimi's strongest bone broke on gaara's defence,sasuke only gave him a small wound,mizukage had oil,and still lost,lee got owned despite using 5 gates and couldnt breach sand armour,madara is so far above sasuk it is not even funny.

sasuke's arrows got owned by a pillar Lol. Gaara,Ay,mei,tsunade,danzo,onoki etc,have breached susanoo too. So whats your point?.

Breach susanoo?,Lol there is a wide opening at the bottom,sasuke gets killed inside his own susanoo.

Sasuke got owned by a blind madara with a simple katon,and he has gotten owned several times.

When Deidara arm got crushed he used his clay to sneak it into Gaara sand, its a fact which knock Gaara out. No if Gaara does what he did in the Kimimaro fight he gets killed by blitzed, by either Sasuke or Sage Naruto. Fact is all of them got past Gaara and defense. Susano'o arrows and Rasenn shuriken would do the same. Gaara doesn't have Onoki here so he can't harm Sasuke in Susano'o. Gaara was killed by Deidara he should've stayed dead.

 

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