mangekyō sharingan abilities

[Leathercandle]

Okay, so I have been confused about the abilities of the mangekyō sharingan for a while now. Not exactly how they work or what they are, that I understand, but do all Uchiha who awaken the mangekyō sharingan get the same abilities: Tsukuyomi, Susanoo, and Amaterasu? Obito, Kakashi, Shisui, Madara, and Izuna have not been shown to use any of those abilities (besides Susanoo, which we have seen Madara use many times). Obito and Kakashi can use Kamui though, which no other character has used

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besides Madara, but that was when he stole Kakashi's eye.

Itachi and Sasuke have been the only ones whom we have seen who have used Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi. I have heard that Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, and Susanoo are the standard 3 mangekyō abilities (I understand that Susanoo is one, but I'm not sure the other two are.)

I had originally thought that each person has their own specific MS abilities, then I though that people of the same family in the Uchiha clan have the same abilities (Itachi and Sasuke for example.) I'm not sure anymore how it works. Can someone clear this up?

 

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[Leathercandle]

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What about Sasuke and Itachi's eyes?

Also in the sharingan abilities section it says this about Tsukuyomi:

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(Doujutsu: Tsukuyomi) - Eye Technique: Nightmare Realm
Rank: Forbidden rank
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 70
Damage Points: 120 (-20 to user per use)
Description:
One of the basic techniques awoken with MS, this illusion renders the victim at the total mercy of the user. The user has full control over space and time in the jutsu and can place the one affected through any hell they desire for any length desired. The only limitation of the technique is the users own imagination and skill, a fact proven by Itachi Uchiha who was must more masterful with its use than any other Uchiha before him. The technique itself only lasts for but a mere second in reality, but the one affected could have suffered through the equivalent of several weeks of torture which will manifest in severe mental damage and physical fatigue.
Note: Requires direct Eye Contact and the user to have MS active
Note: Each use reduces the duration of MS by 2 turns
Note: Its unblockable and unreleasable
Note: If the target doesn't possess at least a 3 Tomoe Sharingan, he is left unconscious
Note: Doesn't work on enemies who have MS/EMS active and use their own Tsukuyomi to counter

In there it says Itachi was the most powerful with Tsukuyomi, more than any of his other clan members who came before him.

 

[slayerdanger]

Susanoo, amaterasu, and tsukuyomi are more common MS abilities while kamui and kotoamatsukami are more rare and might be unique to Obito and Shisui exclusively.

 

[Leathercandle]

Susanoo, amaterasu, and tsukuyomi are more common MS abilities while kamui and kotoamatsukami are more rare and might be unique to Obito and Shisui exclusively.

Do you have proof, like did it say that anywhere? (Not trying to being rude, just want to see for myself)

 

[EVlL]

every pair of ms usually give special tech. susanoo could appear if you have a pair of MS. i think amaterasu was used only by itachi and sasuke. dont know about tsukuyomi. (at least in the manga, no other ninja was shown to have used it). maybe that's itachi special ability (like obito's kamui, shisui's KA). sasuke got amaterasu, but his special ability is to control it.

 

[Leathercandle]

every pair of ms usually give special tech. susanoo could appear if you have a pair of MS. i think amaterasu was used only by itachi and sasuke. dont know about tsukuyomi. (at least in the manga, no other ninja was shown to have used it). maybe that's itachi special ability (like obito's kamui, shisui's KA). sasuke got amaterasu, but his special ability is to control it.

Ah thats right, he can control it. Can sasuke use Tsukuyomi? I think he could and has. If he hasn't, then that means one of his eyes controls Amaterasu while the other ignites the fire (I think). So I guess MS abilities might have similarities/ the same abilities between family members?

 

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What about Sasuke and Itachi's eyes?

Also in the sharingan abilities section it says this about Tsukuyomi:

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(Doujutsu: Tsukuyomi) - Eye Technique: Nightmare Realm
Rank: Forbidden rank
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 70
Damage Points: 120 (-20 to user per use)
Description:
One of the basic techniques awoken with MS, this illusion renders the victim at the total mercy of the user. The user has full control over space and time in the jutsu and can place the one affected through any hell they desire for any length desired. The only limitation of the technique is the users own imagination and skill, a fact proven by Itachi Uchiha who was must more masterful with its use than any other Uchiha before him. The technique itself only lasts for but a mere second in reality, but the one affected could have suffered through the equivalent of several weeks of torture which will manifest in severe mental damage and physical fatigue.
Note: Requires direct Eye Contact and the user to have MS active
Note: Each use reduces the duration of MS by 2 turns
Note: Its unblockable and unreleasable
Note: If the target doesn't possess at least a 3 Tomoe Sharingan, he is left unconscious
Note: Doesn't work on enemies who have MS/EMS active and use their own Tsukuyomi to counter

In there it says Itachi was the most powerful with Tsukuyomi, more than any of his other clan members who came before him.

That's because Itachi has an affinity for genjutsu and Sasuke has an affinity for Enton. Itachi can't shape Enton like Sasuke and Sasuke has never been shown to use Tsukuyomi besides basic MS genjutsu. Susanoo was said to be rare even among clan members. They are brothers after all and should have some similar powers somehow e.g: Susanoo[SUB]

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yeah so each eye has a different ability. Itachi's left had amaterasu and right tsukuyomi, sasuke's left amaterasu and right changing amaterasu's shape and form. You can obtain a susanno when you have both MS.

Sasuke can use genjutsu but not tsukuyomi. It's all unique.

 

[EVlL]

Ah thats right, he can control it. Can sasuke use Tsukuyomi? I think he could and has. If he hasn't, then that means one of his eyes controls Amaterasu while the other ignites the fire (I think). So I guess MS abilities might have similarities/ the same abilities between family members?

sasuke can not use tsukuyomi. and yeah we can say so. at least so far that's what shown in the manga. we can assume that siblings (example in manga: brothers) can have the same ability, but the other sibling can improve that. remember tobirama said he had seensomeone being able to control enton before (like sasuke), which means that ninja could use amaterasu. so i think tsukuyomi is itachi's special ability.

yeah so each eye has a different ability. Itachi's left had amaterasu and right tsukuyomi, sasuke's left amaterasu and right changing amaterasu's shape and form. You can obtain a susanno when you have both MS.

Sasuke can use genjutsu but not tsukuyomi. It's all unique.

wrong. itachi's amaterasu is on right eye. i dont know about his tsukuyomi's eye. maybe both.

That's because Itachi has an affinity for genjutsu and Sasuke has an affinity for Enton. Itachi can't shape Enton like Sasuke and Sasuke has never been shown to use Tsukuyomi besides basic MS genjutsu. Susanoo was said to be rare even among clan members. They are brothers after all and should have some similar powers somehow e.g: Susanoo[SUB]

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wrong. susanoo could appear ONLY if one has 2 MS. not because they're sibling or whatever

 

[Itachi4life]

Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi.

 

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wrong. susanoo could appear ONLY if one has 2 MS. not because they're sibling or whatever

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[TheOneWhoSpeaksTruth]

Ah thats right, he can control it. Can sasuke use Tsukuyomi? I think he could and has. If he hasn't, then that means one of his eyes controls Amaterasu while the other ignites the fire (I think). So I guess MS abilities might have similarities/ the same abilities between family members?

No Sasuke can't use tsukuyomi even though itachi gave him amaterasu. Sasuke's eyes are able to use enton (inferno style) unlike any mangekyou user. Pretty much different eyes have different powers.

 

[VongolaX]

Sasuke and itachi are brothers, so it wouldn't be too far off on why they have Amatersu.

That and Sasuke most likely doesn't have Tsukyomi, like wise Itachi with blaze release/flame control.

 

[-ahhimane-]

Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi were abilities of Itachi to awaken Susano'o.
But there's no proof that they are needed to awaken Susano'o.
Also though the databooks says that they are needed but the whole thing is written under the shinobi named Uchiha Itachi. It's nowhere written for all the Uchihas.
We have seen Obito having different MS abilities, Shisui and possibly Madara.
Also Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi instead got the ability to manipulate the Amaterasu flames and he still got the Susano'o meaning it's confirmed that Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi aren't necessarily needed to awaken Susano'o.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Okay, so I have been confused about the abilities of the mangekyō sharingan for a while now. Not exactly how they work or what they are, that I understand, but do all Uchiha who awaken the mangekyō sharingan get the same abilities: Tsukuyomi, Susanoo, and Amaterasu? Obito, Kakashi, Shisui, Madara, and Izuna have not been shown to use any of those abilities (besides Susanoo, which we have seen Madara use many times). Obito and Kakashi can use Kamui though, which no other character has used

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besides Madara, but that was when he stole Kakashi's eye.

Itachi and Sasuke have been the only ones whom we have seen who have used Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi. I have heard that Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, and Susanoo are the standard 3 mangekyō abilities (I understand that Susanoo is one, but I'm not sure the other two are.)

I had originally thought that each person has their own specific MS abilities, then I though that people of the same family in the Uchiha clan have the same abilities (Itachi and Sasuke for example.) I'm not sure anymore how it works. Can someone clear this up?

Each MS have their own jutsus, in Sasuke's case Itachi gave him his MS jutsus which awakened in Sasuke's MS after he awakened his own. Tobi/Obito said Itachi transferred all of his eye techniques to Sasuke

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There were others with similar jutsus to what Itachi and Sasuke had because Tobirama and Madara both seen Amaterasu before and we don't know if Madara or Izuna had it since Madara never said to or been shown to use it. Sasuke did state that only an Uchiha who have both MS can use Susanoo

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. So you'll pretty much have different eye jutsus for each eye separate but when used together, you get the Susanoo (since it takes both eyes as Itachi stated to Sasuke).

Brothers might have same MS jutsus or might not, we would have to know more about Izuna's and Madara's MS jutsus to really know about that but as for the family thing go, they are all family and that's why their are the Uchiha clan. Everyone in a clan is related, I'm pretty sure clans like Uchiha and Hyuuga had relationships amongst themselves to keep their secretes to themselves and not have it spread around. Same was with other clans, only clans we know did go outside their clans are Senjus and Uzumakis (Hashirama Senju with Mito Uzumaki even tho they are still related by blood, Tsunade tried to with Dan, Kushina with Minato, Naruto trying to with Sakura, Karin trying to with Sasuke). Hinata is trying to with Naruto so she is the first to show to look outside her clan, more things points out for NarSak though so I don't know who she would end up with.

 

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Ah thats right, he can control it. Can sasuke use Tsukuyomi? I think he could and has. If he hasn't, then that means one of his eyes controls Amaterasu while the other ignites the fire (I think). So I guess MS abilities might have similarities/ the same abilities between family members?

That's because Itachi has an affinity for genjutsu and Sasuke has an affinity for Enton. Itachi can't shape Enton like Sasuke and Sasuke has never been shown to use Tsukuyomi besides basic MS genjutsu. Susanoo was said to be rare even among clan members. They are brothers after all and should have some similar powers somehow e.g: Susanoo[SUB]

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yeah so each eye has a different ability. Itachi's left had amaterasu and right tsukuyomi, sasuke's left amaterasu and right changing amaterasu's shape and form. You can obtain a susanno when you have both MS.

Sasuke can use genjutsu but not tsukuyomi. It's all unique.

sasuke can not use tsukuyomi. and yeah we can say so. at least so far that's what shown in the manga. we can assume that siblings (example in manga: brothers) can have the same ability, but the other sibling can improve that. remember tobirama said he had seensomeone being able to control enton before (like sasuke), which means that ninja could use amaterasu. so i think tsukuyomi is itachi's special ability.



wrong. itachi's amaterasu is on right eye. i dont know about his tsukuyomi's eye. maybe both.



wrong. susanoo could appear ONLY if one has 2 MS. not because they're sibling or whatever

Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi.

Sasuke uses Tsukuyomi against Killer Bee. Sasuke uses his mangekyou and has its side effects when the genjutsu is cast. The genjutsu has the same inverted scale as that of Itachi's Tsukuyomi. I don't know about you guys, but I'm convinced Sasuke has Tsukuyomi, just not to the degree of Itachi.

 

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yeah susanoo is rare but to unlock it you need a pair (two) of MS. thats the key, but even if u do have it, its not guaranteed you can unlock susanoo

No Sasuke can't use tsukuyomi even though itachi gave him amaterasu. Sasuke's eyes are able to use enton (inferno style) unlike any mangekyou user. Pretty much different eyes have different powers.

itachi gave amaterasu only for 1 shot (when tobi appeared before sasuke eyes). after that, sasuke is able to unlock and use amaterasu himself. not because itachi gave it.

 

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Sasuke uses Tsukuyomi against Killer Bee. Sasuke uses his mangekyou and has its side effects when the genjutsu is cast. The genjutsu has the same inverted scale as that of Itachi's Tsukuyomi. I don't know about you guys, but I'm convinced Sasuke has Tsukuyomi, just not to the degree of Itachi.

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yeah susanoo is rare but to unlock it you need a pair (two) of MS. thats the key, but even if u do have it, its not guaranteed you can unlock susanoo

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Sasuke uses Tsukuyomi against Killer Bee. Sasuke uses his mangekyou and has its side effects when the genjutsu is cast. The genjutsu has the same inverted scale as that of Itachi's Tsukuyomi. I don't know about you guys, but I'm convinced Sasuke has Tsukuyomi, just not to the degree of Itachi.

So according to you, Sasuke has..
1) Amaterasu
2) Enton
3) Tsukuyomi

Three abilities two eyes. Not fitting.
But he actually used Amaterasu and Enton many times.
A jinchuuriki cannot be confined under normal Genjutusu but Tsukuyomi is itself a powerful Genjutsu. There's nothing called as weak Tsukuyomi or strong Tsukuyomi.
Also Itachi said that Tsukuyomi can be only broken by same Uchiha blood. Killer Bee is not an Uchiha.