Manga Proof: Naruto has Lost his RSM!

[Char Aznable]

Manga proof Sasuke lost Perfect Susanno.

Reason:
Because we haven't seen him use it since chapter 697.

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[Narutrol]

No, what I'm saying is at the same time as Hamura.

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Please tell me you can see the double edged staff?
TSB equals Yin and Yang.

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By that logic, jubidara is yin seal while jubito is yang seal

 

[Zealous Sparks]

Let's get it to 20 pages.

OT: These are only manga facts...I mean proof.

 

[Michael]

Oh boy, okay buddy.
Please tell me you know what Indra + Ashura = to?
Indra + Ashura equals Rikudou's chakra.
The Databook states that Sasuke's Rinnegan (and Amenoteijikara), was granted/giftedby Hagoromo. There is no ifs or buts here, Sasuke's Rinnegan formed because he was directly given Hagoromo's chakra.

Kakashi didn't have the Rinnegan because Obito didn't have enough of the Sage's chakra, nor did Kakashi have the right body or actual eyes to handle the awakening of such a power.

Rinnegan = Indra and Ashura which equals Hagoromo's chakra. Sasuke still has Hagoromo's chakra, as does Naruto.




Naruto showed that he still has the Pigmentation that a Sage always has with Toad Sage mode, yet when he went BSM, he lost the Pigmentation, which only happens when he's using Rikudou Sage Mode.
Naruto was shown flying in the last and was also shown to be capable of effecting TSBs, all of these feats can only be done with Rikudou chakra.

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'Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo)

Heading: A gift from the ancestor of Shinobi that grants a supernatural mental state allowing for the complete, universal comprehension of all things.

← The caster has an unconscious/automatic mastery of the Sage of Six Path's "ability to levitate" (浮遊する能力, fuyū suru nōryoku).

From what I can make out of the main body of text, it says that this is a technique that allows the user to quickly grasp the nature of Chakra with the skill of a well-studied, highly sensitive master. It also seems to have a bunch of philosophical stuff about the Sage of Six Paths which is hard to make out because I can only read about half of it.

→ Kicking a Truthseeker Orb! Surpassing Kurama Mode, his vast Chakra lets him perform this risky stunt!

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← His reaction speed meets or exceeds that of Madara in his Ten Tails Jinchūriki Form. It's the height of sensory ability!'

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The Six Paths Senjutsu powers can still be used without being in this mode.

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Hopefully this ends your bs.

Nice post, the OP knows Naruto has/used RSM, he just trolling/baiting.

 

[Lord of Akatsuki]

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By that logic, jubidara is yin seal while jubito is yang seal

'Smacks head.'
Sigh, Juubidara's is Yin because he is Indra's Transmigrant and is predominately Yin.
Obito's staff is Yang because, well, I don't really know, just that when he was young he was very similar to Naruto and Ashura.

Stop talking about the Yin-Yang seals, they don't have them, only Hagoromo does, jeez.

Nice post, the OP knows Naruto has/used RSM, he just trolling/baiting.

Thanks man, and thanks for the rep.
OP is a huge troll, his name should be 'The Troll' lol.

 

[Nemesis Uchiha]

Hey u comparing kaguya powers to shin powers tell me r u idiot. At this rate next time u say Naruto use TBB to beat bolt. Tell me did u kill ant with rocket launcher

 

[KingOfRaves]

I call bullshit on this whole thread, nice try man, but no. He hasn't lost Rikudo Sage Mode.

 

[Rohan]

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Obito's staff is Yang because, well, I don't really know, just that when he was young he was very similar to Naruto and Ashura.

Half of Obito's body was made from White Zetsu which was cultivated by using Hashirama's cells which in turn had Ashura Chakra. That's why Obito is Yang.

 

[iKaras]

It's like im in bizarro world.

OT: Good troll.

 

[Lord of Akatsuki]

Half of Obito's body was made from White Zetsu which was cultivated by using Hashirama's cells which in turn had Ashura Chakra. That's why Obito is Yang.

Thanks for clearing that up, I remember that now, and you are indeed correct.

Edit: I would rep you, but I can't as I gave you rep before, sorry.

 

[Trashboat]

He's back, poor Naruto, why oh why!!!

 

[Minator93]

Welcome Back, Minator. :hugg:

10/10 thread as usual. :bdpf:

Thanks man

I'm still waiting for the scan showing Naruto and Sasuke lost/losing their Rikudou chakra.

Thread title says "Manga proof" but there is no manga proof.

They have lost their Rikudou Chakra, Sasuke not using Black Lightening and Naruto showing no RSM pattern whilst using the BSM has already confirmed that. Heck it was confirmed way back when we saw the seals returning and Kakashi losing the Dual Kamui U_U

Doesn't Indra and Ashura's chakra equal Rikodou's chakra? BTW, Rinnegan is probably awakened when Indra and Ashura or Rikodou's chakra becomes a part of the user's chakra, simply having it is not sufficient. Madara didn't get the Rinnegan right after adding Hashirama's chakra to his own chakra. He had to wait until both their chakras mixed together in one vessel.

I'm not so sure about that... If precision of SM is much higher in BM, then why didn't it come into scene before when Naruto combined SM with BM during the war? Then according to your theory, there shouldn't be any pigmentation in BSM in the first place...

Lol re-read the manga. It never said "equals." It merely gives an access to "Rikudou-Type" chakra. And that causes the Rinnegan to appear. Madara being the strongest Indra Transmigrant was able to Obtain the "Dual Rinnegan" whereas Sasuke obtained a weaker version Tomoe-Rinnegan. What Sasuke got from Hagoromo was Black Chidori, Immense Chakra [capable of wielding Indra's Arrow etc] or touching Juubi-Jin Madara's Onmyoudon. With the loss of Rikudou chakra however he loses these perks. Naruto Loses his RSM, his sensing will be downgraded etc

It did come into the scene with Naruto being able to enter BSM pretty much instantly and the overwhelming power-upgrade i.e. the difference between BM and BSM was also showcased. And my thread suggests that the "Precision" of the Sage Mode in the Bijju Mode i.e. the BSM as a whole improved to the point that only eye pattern remains. His base Sage Mode however isn't as refined as it is in Bijju Mode, hence the pigmentation. Don't get me wrong Naruto's SM in his base is beast and is Perfect, it's just that in BM the SM is on a whole different level U_U

If we enter the room of could have beens, we are beyond the theory department. I have to agree Naruto lost RSM, as the Magatamas in the back are missing. But I still believe that his SM or rather BM is different from how it was before.

Thanks again for this fun discussion.

Indeed Naruto has lost the RSM, the design confirms it.

You're welcome, I had fun too

Why do you care so much? And why is it so important that EVERYONE proves that he lost it? And why can't he keep it what's wrong with him having RSM?

Nothing wrong in fact not having RSM works in Naruto's favor. It means he's that powerful on his own and not because of the free gift from Hagoromo U_U

Your post is wrong on many points. Kakashi was not on Kaguya level, he only had PS and Kamui which was stronger because Obito had Rikudo chakra; it didn't run out, Kakashi had it until Obito chakra left him, it was Obito's chakra that was limited use. Hagoromo gave Sasuke Yin chakra and Naruto Yang which gave them Rinnegan and RSM. To have the Rinnegan you need Indra (yin) and Ashura (yang) to awaken Hagoromo chakra (yin yang). Sasuke had half of Hagoromo chakra which only gave him 1 Rinnegan, if he loses Hagoromo chakra then he loses the Rinnegan but we saw him with it in the last 2 years later.

The chakra Hagoromo gave them boost the Indra/Ashura chakra in them I'm sure. As for Sasuke's chakra level, you do know he was given chakra by Hashirama and given Hashirama's cells by Kabuto which boost stamina and jutsu's powers and he absorbed chakra from the 9 Bijuus and then from Naruto right? Sounded like you forgot all of that. The pic of Naruto from the last is of KSM, look at the design, it's not BM cloak, he now has full Kurama at that point so his mode would vary a bit; also Kurama left his body and they need to be linked for BM as far as we know.

Hokage Naruto doesn't have SM eye lining which he had in SM and has in the last pic and in war arc BSM; only time he didn't was when he was in RSM so he probably using Sage Senjutsu with BM. Naruto used only KSM on Toneri but does that means he lost BM? No because we seen Hokage in the form, he just never needed to go that far.

I've already addressed your queries in my reply to "The Demon Hawk" in this very post, refer to that.

And Kakashi was on Kaguya's level, in fact it was he who played the most important role in defeating Kaguya thanks to his Emperor Susanoo + Dual Kamui along with his brains [it was his strategy after all] Naruto and Sasuke merely put their tattoos on her U_U

Oh boy, okay buddy.
Please tell me you know what Indra + Ashura = to?
Indra + Ashura equals Rikudou's chakra.
The Databook states that Sasuke's Rinnegan (and Amenoteijikara), was granted/giftedby Hagoromo. There is no ifs or buts here, Sasuke's Rinnegan formed because he was directly given Hagoromo's chakra.

Kakashi didn't have the Rinnegan because Obito didn't have enough of the Sage's chakra, nor did Kakashi have the right body or actual eyes to handle the awakening of such a power.

Rinnegan = Indra and Ashura which equals Hagoromo's chakra. Sasuke still has Hagoromo's chakra, as does Naruto.

Naruto showed that he still has the Pigmentation that a Sage always has with Toad Sage mode, yet when he went BSM, he lost the Pigmentation, which only happens when he's using Rikudou Sage Mode.
Naruto was shown flying in the last and was also shown to be capable of effecting TSBs, all of these feats can only be done with Rikudou chakra.

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'Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo)

Heading: A gift from the ancestor of Shinobi that grants a supernatural mental state allowing for the complete, universal comprehension of all things.

← The caster has an unconscious/automatic mastery of the Sage of Six Path's "ability to levitate" (浮遊する能力, fuyū suru nōryoku).

From what I can make out of the main body of text, it says that this is a technique that allows the user to quickly grasp the nature of Chakra with the skill of a well-studied, highly sensitive master. It also seems to have a bunch of philosophical stuff about the Sage of Six Paths which is hard to make out because I can only read about half of it.

→ Kicking a Truthseeker Orb! Surpassing Kurama Mode, his vast Chakra lets him perform this risky stunt!

Spoiler

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← His reaction speed meets or exceeds that of Madara in his Ten Tails Jinchūriki Form. It's the height of sensory ability!'

Spoiler

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The Six Paths Senjutsu powers can still be used without being in this mode.

Spoiler

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Hopefully this ends your bs.

The basis of your post is flawed. You think Indra + Ashura = Hagoromo? That's stage 1 level thinking. If you had read the manga with open eyes you'd understand that Mixing Ashura's and Indra's Chakra merely accesses some fraction type of Rikudou Chakra and not to "Hagoromo's Chakra as a Whole"

No point in addressing the rest of the post since it's foundation has flaws U_U Base your post on correct logic, I might entertain it.

Manga proof Sasuke lost Perfect Susanno.

Reason:
Because we haven't seen him use it since chapter 697.

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Don't spam.

Nice post, the OP knows Naruto has/used RSM, he just trolling/baiting.

Get Lost.

I call bullshit on this whole thread, nice try man, but no. He hasn't lost Rikudo Sage Mode.

In other words you got nothing.

It's like im in bizarro world.

OT: Good troll.

Don't spam.

 

[Rohan]

So much soloing in one post. Typical Minator. :sdo:

 

[Michael]

So much butthurt in one post. Typical Minator. :sdo:

I agree, funny how the mods allowed this trolls thread to remain open. I made a thread of sasuke losing the rinnegan, it was closed immediately. The bias is Real.

 

[Minator93]

I agree, funny how the mods allowed this trolls thread to remain open. I made a thread of sasuke losing the rinnegan, it was closed immediately. The bias is Real.

The salt is high in this one.

 

[KidGamer65]

No pigmentation means he's using Six Paths Senjutsu. Six Paths Senjutsu for Naruto is Six Paths Sage Mode. End of story.

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[Cooh]

The salt is high in this one.

What do you expect? You're downplaying his wanking material :lol

 

[Keimil]

I agree, both of them lost most of it... All over the manga chakra was sealed for a reason. When it wasn't sealed like the Kyuubi cloak provided to the allience, Obito's ghost, Juugo's sage marking in Sasuke's Susanno, it is lost forever when you ran out of it.

 

[Lord of Akatsuki]

The basis of your post is flawed. You think Indra + Ashura = Hagoromo? That's stage 1 level thinking. If you had read the manga with open eyes you'd understand that Mixing Ashura's and Indra's Chakra merely accesses some fraction type of Rikudou Chakra and not to "Hagoromo's Chakra as a Whole"

No point in addressing the rest of the post since it's foundation has flaws U_U Base your post on correct logic, I might entertain it.

No, I think Indra + Ashura equals one half of Hagoromo's power. Half of Hagoromo's power is Rinnegan, and the other is his Six Paths Senjutsu. Indra + Ashura merely equal two halves of his normal split chakra from the Rinnegan.
I don't know about you, but that is exactly what I was talking about, I was never speaking about amount, rather that Indra (Yin) and Ashura (Yang) combined can form the Rinnegan because together it becomes the Six Paths chakra (Yin and Yang is the basis of Hagoromo's chakra, otherwise refereed to as half of his chakra, but not both halves of his actual power).

The rest has not been addressed by you because you can't debunk my post that directly has manga scans and a Databook scan that backs it.

Enjoy your meal.

No pigmentation means he's using Six Paths Senjutsu. Six Paths Senjutsu for Naruto is Six Paths Sage Mode. End of story.

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Your awesome mate.

 

[Dantee]

after much consideration I agree with you Minator.