[Manga approved] Top 10 list of the strongest shinobi with Tiers

[KCMNaruto]

Kaguya
Hagoromo
Sasuke/Naruto
Naruto/Sasuke
Madara
Obito
DMS Kakashi
Hashi
Nagato
Kabuto

**8G gai could go below DMS kakashi, & edo minato could go below hashi.**

Sure thing, but first could you elaborate about it why I should change it ?

Just two, three lines at least

 

[Draphsin]

Sure thing, but first could you elborate about it why I should change it ?

Just two, three lines at least

This is my personal list.

 

[DrProof]

No Gaara no care. :|

 

[KidGamer65]

^^ what if he lost them ?, Also it is not truth because Madara as Juubi Jinchurki got his goudama stolen and still was using Rikudou Senjutsu. It reffers to his body not some orbs floating around him.

Lost them? To who? Kaguya? Regardless, if he lost them then he wouldn't have any right now, but he clearly did. Not to mention....who would push him far enough in combat to make him lose his Gudo Dama when there was no one but Kaguya? lol.

Rikudo Senjutsu is the mode the JJ takes. Which gives them flight, 9 Gudo Dama and a staff. Hagoromo only had a staff before becoming the Jin. After that he gained the 9 orbs.

^^ The staff which was shapped from goudama.

So? Doesn't change anything I said. Obito didn't have the orbs as he didn't have Rikudo Senjutsu.

Madara also commented to Obito how wisely it was to use Senjutsu to deflect goudama and Obito didn;t come in contact with goudama but absorbed some chakra from Madara directly.

Having a portion of Rikudo Senjutsu Chakra=/=Being in Rikudo Senjutsu Mode.

The goudama != Rikudou Senjtusu

^^ See Madara's case and Obito's case explained by me above

Nope. Gudo Dama is a technique gained with Rikudo Senjutsu, unless you are Kaguya. You don't get the 9 orbs AND the staff floating behind you unless you have Rikudo Senjutsu.

-Obito didn't have the orbs and the staff until he got Rikudo Senjutsu. A portion of the chakra let him use the staff.

-Madara didn't have the Gudo Dama till getting the Juubi. Same goes for Hagoromo.

Ok, but that was before Hagoromo was Jinchurki. Hamura would easily transfer his powers to Hagoromo after he become Host of Ten tails to keep Ten tails at Bay and ensure world is safe. Even If Hagoromo could handle it just fine then it is always to take precautions then take a risk.

He became the Jinchuuriki moments after that, the rest of your post is nothing but a baseless assumption. Hamura's powers aren't going to change how Hagoromo keeps the Juubi at bay nor is it going to help.

How ? I suppose JJ Hagoromo was the one who created his sons unless they were born naturally by some not skilled usual woman who was impregnated by Hagormo before he became host

Lol. him creating his sons is nothing but a theory. No reason to believe that he did. They got his power because that is how it worked.

Not sure, It could be just that Hagoromo eye powers were weak at that point as his Yin power would be barerly developed.

Uh, no. Nothing implies this either.

The seal shows that Hagoromo was Body's type before so Rikudou Senjutsu should be in his possesion.

The seal only means he had the Yang Seal, not that he had Rikudo Senjutsu. The Yang Seal is NOT related to Rikudo Senjutsu in any way, shape or form. We already saw that he didn't have it until he became a Jinchuuriki anyway.

So how would he know ?
Magic ?

Don't know. How do Uchiha know the names of their Dojutsu? How did Kakashi and Obito come to the conclusion that their jutsu was called Kamui?

As I said Goudama != Rikudou Senjutsu

A set of Gudo Dama and a staff=Rikudo Senjutsu.


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[KidGamer65]

But then again, this argument is pointless since Sasuke wasn't stated to be on Hagoromo's level...strength wise anyway.

 

[KCMNaruto]

But then again, this argument is pointless since Sasuke wasn't stated to be on Hagoromo's level...strength wise anyway.

So I was right strength wise, where do you get this by the way ?

Well it was logical because Sasuke would lack Yin kurama, Rikudou Senjutsu at least to even have all ingredients as JJ Hagoromo

 

[KidGamer65]

So I was right strength wise, where do you get this by the way ?

Well it was logical because Sasuke would lack Yin kurama, Rikudou Senjutsu at least to even have all ingredients as JJ Hagoromo

I asked a translator on NF.

I still disagree that you need to have the same abilities as Hagoromo to be on his level, you only need enough power to put you at that level. Sasuke and Naruto already have half of his power each. Naruto took in all the Nature Energy around VoTE and Sasuke took the Bijuu into Susanoo.

 

[ARGUS]

IMO, every top 10 list should be similar to this

1. Kaguya
2. Hagoromo
3. Sasuke/Naruto
4. Naruto/Sasuke
5. Madara
6. DMS Kakashi
7. Obito
8. 8th Gate Guy
9. Hashirama
10. Nagato

No ET ofcourse

 

[wael reda]

Lol at people who put current sasuke and naruto above jj hagromo just because a statement

even jiubiobito was said more than once to be the same as rikudo

 

[KidGamer65]

Lol at people who put current sasuke and naruto above jj hagromo just because a statement

even jiubiobito was said more than once to be the same as rikudo

1. No one put them above JJ Hagoromo.

2. Juubito was stated to be like Rikudo, as in he has the power Rikudo had, not that he was on par with Rikudo in every single way.

 

[Conspirator.]

Top 10:

Kaguya
Hagoromo
Naruto
Sasuke
Madara
Hamura
Ashura
Indra
DMS Kakashi
Juubito

I could make a tier list too later, although Indra,Ashura and Hamura are the toughest to rank.

 

[Valhorus]

Tier 4 is completely wrong . SM Hashirama is not evne close to Juubito v1 , stated by himself . BM Minato is a must for the 5th tier.

 

[super yang]

my own power ranking, becuz I'm not hardcore enough to make a tier list

01 kaguya
02 naruto
03 sasuke
04 madara
05 hashirama
06 obito
07 nagato
08 kabuto
09 itachi
10 hiruzen

 

[KCMNaruto]

Top 10:

Kaguya
Hagoromo
Naruto
Sasuke
Madara
Hamura
Ashura
Indra
DMS Kakashi
Juubito

I could make a tier list too later, although Indra,Ashura and Hamura are the toughest to rank.

sure, sure do it if you want.

I agree with Indra, Ashura and Hamura being toughest to rank.

BUT what do you think about my top... this is initial question...

Tier 4 is completely wrong . SM Hashirama is not evne close to Juubito v1 , stated by himself . BM Minato is a must for the 5th tier.

I disagree with Hashirama, he has never said that he is not even close or that Juubito is far stronger then him. He only admited that Juubito is above him.

I agree with BM Minato alhtough,sorry I forgot to include him...

 

[Scryed]

Weren't Hagoromo and Hamura shown to have their Gudoudama staff during their fight against the Juubi?

If Gudoudama is obtained through Rikudou Senjutsu then doesn't that mean that Pre-Jin Hagoromo and Hamura already had Rikudou Senjutsu?


Or did I get that wrong?

 

[KCMNaruto]

Weren't Hagoromo and Hamura shown to have their Gudoudama staff during their fight against the Juubi?

If Gudoudama is obtained through Rikudou Senjutsu then doesn't that mean that Pre-Jin Hagoromo and Hamura already had Rikudou Senjutsu?


Or did I get that wrong?

This can not be answered with the manga scans/statements we have for now.

The problem is we don't know what the staff is made of, if it is goudama then you are right and I would like to see that as well.
Else, you are wrong adn in essence me as well.